Feel like I should just call it Gaelic as that is its preferred name in English although some people here use that word to refer to Irish.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 17:58 (three years ago)
Some visual differences between Irish and Scottish Gaelic, the accent marks go the other way (although maybe at one point they went the same way). Also there was a spelling reform in Irish to trim off some of the unpronounced consonant clusters.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 10 January 2023 18:06 (three years ago)
Link to the Scottish Gaelic Dictionary Am Faclair Beag: https://www.faclair.com/index.aspx
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 15:48 (three years ago)
Link to Ollie Benson's extensive Duolingo notes: https://olliebenson.fandom.com/wiki/Scottish_Gaelic
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 15:49 (three years ago)
Useful but less helpful link to (some of the) vocabulary for the prior version of the Duolingo tree: https://duolingo.fandom.com/wiki/Scottish_Gaelic
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 15:51 (three years ago)
Link to the saved tips and notes for (prior version of) the Duolingo tree: https://duome.eu/tips/en/gd
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 15:56 (three years ago)
Which contains everything you ever wanted to know about guga, haggis and yes, Runrig.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 15:58 (three years ago)
Tatoeba sentences in Scottish Gaelic with all translations turned on: https://tatoeba.org/en/sentences/show_all_in/gla/und
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 11 January 2023 16:03 (three years ago)
Some people like this course:https://speakgaelic.scot/
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 January 2023 21:31 (three years ago)
Which has an accompanying YouTube serieshttp://www.youtube.com/@SpeakGaelicas well as a podcast.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 January 2023 21:57 (three years ago)
SpeakGaelic seems really good.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 12 January 2023 22:25 (three years ago)
The vocative case with masculine names: https://duome.eu/tips/en/gd#Names-2
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 January 2023 15:35 (three years ago)
I'm talking to you, Fhearghais.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 January 2023 15:36 (three years ago)
Further explanation: https://forum.duolingo.com/comment/36574749/Madainn-mhath-Fhearghais
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 13 January 2023 15:41 (three years ago)
This is a great list of resources!Have just started my Duolingo journey with Scottish Gaelic inspired by this thread, having avoided both for stubbornly long. Lot of salted gannet and Irn Bru so far.
― verhexen, Saturday, 14 January 2023 07:34 (three years ago)
:)
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 11:36 (three years ago)
Just occurred to me that IRN BRU and Runrig are near anagrams.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 11:37 (three years ago)
But what I really came to post is:
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 11:40 (three years ago)
That being The Gaelic-English Dictionary, by Colin Mark, who also wrote Gaelic Verbs: Systemized and Simplified.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 11:55 (three years ago)
Apparently Colin B. D. Mark didn’t start learning Gaelic until he was turning forty. Sometime afterwards he wrote the verb book and then spent twenty-five odd years on the dictionary.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 12:55 (three years ago)
Guy who wrote another, century-old dictionary people still use also learned the language as an adult, Edward Dwelly.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 13:07 (three years ago)
Should have responded to your post by sayingIs math sin.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 14:35 (three years ago)
Also I did the first four sections of the first topic of SpeakGaelic and can attest that it really well-done.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 14:42 (three years ago)
late seeing this thread so apologies if somebody's already mentioned this brilliant story
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/aug/26/shock-an-aw-us-teenager-wrote-huge-slice-of-scots-wikipedia
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 January 2023 14:42 (three years ago)
Wow, thanks
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 14:48 (three years ago)
Feel like maybe the word “Scots” should be added to the thread title as well.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 14:49 (three years ago)
Even this Mango course I can get free through the library seems to have some good intro stuff.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 15:10 (three years ago)
(xp) "An aw" as used in the famous phrase, "Aw naw, no Annoni oan an aw noo".
― A Drunk Man Looks At Partick Thistle (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 January 2023 15:24 (three years ago)
...and indeed, "Twa pehs an an ingin ane an aw".
― A Drunk Man Looks At Partick Thistle (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 January 2023 15:32 (three years ago)
So would it be correct to add “Scots an aw” to the thread title? I don’t quite get the subtleties.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 15:47 (three years ago)
Yes.
― A Drunk Man Looks At Partick Thistle (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 January 2023 15:51 (three years ago)
I don't really know what they're talking about in the Guardian article re the use of 'an aw'.
― A Drunk Man Looks At Partick Thistle (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 January 2023 15:52 (three years ago)
Even if the new thread title is incorrect:a) we can fix it again if needed, assuming mods don’t take offenseb) we may end up learning more from the errorc) it’s all good, after all it’s not like it’s Wikipedia an awor something
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 15:59 (three years ago)
One of the useful things about Scots which English no longer has is that the word 'no' exists in two different forms.
"Is there an equivalent in English?""Naw, there's nae equivalent in English"
Or better still..
"Naw, there's nae equivalent in English, at least I'm no sure there is".
― A Drunk Man Looks At Partick Thistle (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 January 2023 16:06 (three years ago)
Now I am, um, mulling over whether to add “noo” at the end as well.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 16:06 (three years ago)
Nae noos is guid noos.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 16:45 (three years ago)
I think the Guardian article is trying to say "an aw" technically can't be used the same way as "also" because it can't appear *before* the extra thing. Instead of saying it's the same as "and all", they could've used "too". Never thought of that about "nae" as well as "naw" before. Bit like the French "aucun" or German "kein". Fun!
― verhexen, Saturday, 14 January 2023 16:59 (three years ago)
Kein' Angst, Baby!
― The Gate of Angels Laundromat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 18:27 (three years ago)
Really came to say that people love love love this guy: https://gaelicwithjason.thinkific.com/I don't think he is taking any one-on-one students anymore but you can still look at some of his materials, get a regular email and sign up for group classes.
― The Gate of Angels Laundromat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 18:30 (three years ago)
Video courses. One of them is free.
― The Gate of Angels Laundromat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 18:32 (three years ago)
Just found mention of this this! https://www.taic.me.uk/feuch/index.htmlHave no idea what it is, just about to click through now.
― The Gate of Angels Laundromat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 18:40 (three years ago)
(xp) Surefire way to get a Scotsman interested.
― A Drunk Man Looks At Partick Thistle (Tom D.), Saturday, 14 January 2023 18:40 (three years ago)
That's sort of a test/demo version, here is the main site: https://www.taic.me.uk/
― The Gate of Angels Laundromat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 18:42 (three years ago)
Depends on how you feel about The Witcher. (xp)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJ5U15iFPM8
― The Gate of Angels Laundromat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 18:46 (three years ago)
Or just look at some of his other videos.http://www.youtube.com/@GaelicwithJason
― The Gate of Angels Laundromat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 18:47 (three years ago)
This guy totally reminds me of being a high school student and sitting in an enrichment class taught by one of the former mathletes who has come back from college break, except I don't get lost so quickly.
― The Gate of Angels Laundromat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 18:50 (three years ago)
for all the accents in Skellige there's not many (or any?) Scots ones tbf
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 January 2023 18:50 (three years ago)
he's right tho it's immediately piqued me interest in the video
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 14 January 2023 18:52 (three years ago)
Lol
― The Gate of Angels Laundromat (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 14 January 2023 18:57 (three years ago)