I’m with Morbs in rating Vertigo at or near the top, maybe just behind Rear Window and Notorious
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Saturday, 7 January 2023 23:10 (three years ago)
Kane might be the only one here I don’t regard as being one if its director’s best, along with Apocalypse
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Saturday, 7 January 2023 23:11 (three years ago)
I’m with Morbs in rating _Vertigo_ at or near the top, maybe just behind _Rear Window_ and _Notorious_
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 January 2023 23:13 (three years ago)
If you can't deal with Mifune's performance style, Kurosawa will never be for you.
He's a great actor who's so much more tolerable when he keeps the lid on, like in High and Low and The Bad Sleep Well.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 7 January 2023 23:39 (three years ago)
those are two of his best roles, but I also like the more unrestrained performances in the samurai/ronin films (Seven Samurai, Yojimbo, Sanjuro)
― Dan S, Sunday, 8 January 2023 00:25 (three years ago)
_If you can't deal with Mifune's performance style, Kurosawa will never be for you._He's a great actor who's so much more tolerable when he keeps the lid on, like in _High and Low_ and _The Bad Sleep Well_.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2023 00:35 (three years ago)
Didn’t really need to quote, sorry.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2023 00:36 (three years ago)
To the question of why I’ve never seen Seven Samurai, the answer is I don’t want to
I admire this decisiveness, sort of, but I'm a slave to polls of this kind, especially if they're consensus-based and I'm familiar with most of the entries already. I'd have to have a big prejudice against a film I haven't seen on a list like this not to add it to my informal "should watch" list.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 8 January 2023 01:11 (three years ago)
My Hitchcock top five today:
NotoriousStrangers on a TrainRear WindowSabotagePsycho
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 02:47 (three years ago)
2001 slander made me pull the trigger for it
― sault bae (voodoo chili), Sunday, 8 January 2023 03:29 (three years ago)
_To the question of why I’ve never seen Seven Samurai, the answer is I don’t want to_I admire this decisiveness, sort of, but I'm a slave to polls of this kind, especially if they're consensus-based and I'm familiar with most of the entries already. I'd have to have a big prejudice against a film I haven't seen on a list like this not to add it to my informal "should watch" list.
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 8 January 2023 05:39 (three years ago)
Cannot believe ppl are questioning Mifune when there is a Marlon Brando "performance" in here.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 08:20 (three years ago)
xp: funnily enough I love the role Seven Samurai plays in Helen DeWitt's The Last Samurai, where the single mother looks to show the film to her son as a father figure substitute.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 08:24 (three years ago)
Apocalypse Now is an enjoyable enough movie I guess but the thought of it being in somebody's top 200 of anything is just boggling my mind
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:03 (three years ago)
It's ok, when it's on TV I will watch an hour of it.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:06 (three years ago)
depending on the day it would be de jeu, searchers or dielman. today it's renoir.
― devvvine, Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:07 (three years ago)
Might vote for Cléo to be annoying
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:11 (three years ago)
It's not as annoying as not watching Seven Samurai because you've been traumatised by film bro polls.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:14 (three years ago)
tbf it's not the best Kurosawa or the best samurai movie even
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:15 (three years ago)
It wouldn't be in my top 20 or my favourite Kurosawa, but it's so much more fun than watching Americans go on about Apocalypse now as a Vietnam War 'statement'.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:18 (three years ago)
as i say AN to me is the most ridiculous entry - maybe the only ridiculous entry - in the list. how many 18 year old boys vote in this thing?
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:21 (three years ago)
Twenty-one-year-old film bros are worse than 18-year-olds.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 10:28 (three years ago)
it's all a long distant memory to me
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2023 10:34 (three years ago)
I prefer yojimbo and hidden fortress to seven samurai but that doesn't make it anything close to mediocrity
― calzino, Sunday, 8 January 2023 10:49 (three years ago)
I think Ikiru should be the consensus pick, less of the trad masc concerns and also a better intro as not four hours long. That said I do love SS and if this was a best ever director poll I think Kurosawa would be my guy.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 8 January 2023 11:03 (three years ago)
I'm terrible with Kurusawa, usually I always rewatch his samurai movies that I've seen umpteen times already rather than his more subtle masterpieces, but his samurai movies rule so much!
― calzino, Sunday, 8 January 2023 11:15 (three years ago)
We all love Kurosawa. It's settled! *bangs gavel*
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 12:50 (three years ago)
Finally managed to score a copy of the mag, a single solitary copy in McColl's in Govan! Citizen Kane cover - of course I wanted the Jeanne Dielman, but the mag does reproduce this amazing pic as a full page:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGMdzURWwAErD7r.jpg
They give a selection of the director ballots only, no critics. Good lists - by which I mean, introduced me to films I'd not heard of before - from Khalik Allah, Radu Jude, Alexandre Koberidze, Alice Rohrwacher, Peter Strickland, Apichatpong Weerasethakul. An all-French list from Wes Anderson with some interesting choices. Fun list from Terence Davies, including two Doris Day films. Wouldn't have expected Peter Greenaway to choose Blade Runner.
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 8 January 2023 13:01 (three years ago)
Nice! Love that picture!
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2023 13:22 (three years ago)
Really want to vote for something that includes jokes, which narrows things down pretty severely
― waste of compute (One Eye Open), Sunday, 8 January 2023 13:44 (three years ago)
seven samurai it is
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:07 (three years ago)
Ikiru is pish, Dersu Uzala is my kurosawa joint
― or something, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:12 (three years ago)
I haven't seen that one, and of his late stuff only seen Kagemusha and Ran - so some serious gaps there.
― calzino, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:16 (three years ago)
I like Dreams too, only seen 6 or 7 myself
― or something, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:19 (three years ago)
there was a feature on bbc radio about the Rashomon influence on modern tv drama, it had the opposite effect of interesting me in watching any of this stuff or even the original again!
― calzino, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:25 (three years ago)
They're doing the complete Kurosawa at the BFI right now. I caught One Wonderful Sunday - Kurosawa does Capra kinda, doesn't entirely work but there's some good stuff in there. At one point the female protagonist breaks the fourth wall and starts begging the viewers to clap for her husband and for all the young couples trying to make a living in postwar Japan, they need the help. No cunt clapped.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:26 (three years ago)
all clapped out in the UK
― calzino, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:29 (three years ago)
every time someone types "influence" mark s gets his wings
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:30 (three years ago)
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 8 January 2023 15:59 (three years ago)
Ope sorry, my gavel broke
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:00 (three years ago)
Study, study, screen, screen, or bonk bonk on the head!
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:01 (three years ago)
Lol, Alfred.
Really curious about Terence Davies’s list, especially the two Doris Days.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:19 (three years ago)
I voted Vertigo. My relationship to it was pretty organic thankfully. Bought a vhs tape at around 17 without ever having seen it before, or very many classic movies at all, and became obsessed without totally understanding why. Probably almost wore out that tape. Only later did I discover becoming obsessed with Vertigo was practically a cliche. But that’s where my love of movies started and it’s pretty much the experience I’m always hoping to have again every time I go to a movie.
I’ll go to bat for Apocalypse Now! I mean, in that I think it’s great, not top 20 of all time great though.
2001 probably one of the funnier options here?
― ryan, Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:24 (three years ago)
I use the first 10 minutes of Apocalypse Now because the match cuts, fades, sound design, and POV storytelling lend themselves to that sort of context.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:25 (three years ago)
Use them in class, that is.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:26 (three years ago)
When I talk or think about Kubrick I almost place 2001 in mental brackets, it’s so, ahem, monolithic, that I unconsciously shunt it off to the side when contemplating the killing, the shining, paths of glory, eyes wide shut, etc. But I do love it. I’m sorry but HALs death is an astonishing moment, dancing spaceships, the light show, the star child, it’s just a fun fucking movie.
― ryan, Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:27 (three years ago)
I watched the end of In the Mood for Love (another movie I’ve watched too many times) and I’ll be damned if the ending sequence didn’t fucking floor me for the first time in years.
― ryan, Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:31 (three years ago)
I'm digging your posts, ryan.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:34 (three years ago)
I took my mom to lunch yesterday and talked about these moves. There’s a famous story in my family that my dad took my mom to see 2001 on their first anniversary. She hates it to this day.
I described Jeanne Dielman to her and she immediately went home and watched it. Got some amusing text messages.
― ryan, Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:37 (three years ago)
The Godfather is on tonight on film 4 uk (II tomorrow, III on friday, repeated next week). making it about a dozen of the S&S top 100 that've been on free-to-air tv since mid-december.
(and Parasite is on again next week)
― koogs, Wednesday, 1 March 2023 20:13 (three years ago)
I've been watching the shortest movies on the list that i haven't seen before. Partie de campagne, The house is black, black girl, several under 90 minutes. Gotta build up to edward yang, bela tarr, those endless documentaries...
Pyaasa is leaving Criterion channel this month so I'll try to watch that longer one.
― adam t. (abanana), Friday, 3 March 2023 09:04 (three years ago)
Oh! Need to watch all those Guru Dutts! Meaning I need to, maybe somebody else needs to as well.
― Wile E. Galore (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 March 2023 15:19 (three years ago)
"...of the 5 Wong Kar Wai films I’ve seen, In the Mood for Love is the one that made the least impression on me"
re: In the Mood for Love, the characters repeatedly meet in a cramped 1960s Hong Kong apartment building (to a couple of Spanish language Nat King Cole songs on the soundtrack). She is always wearing different beautiful cheongsams. They get to know each other and eventually role-play the adultery they think represents the lives of their spouses. They try to imagine confronting their spouses and can’t. They yearn for the same connection with each other and it becomes very palpable for them, but then it is gone. The events are told in short-hand
In addition to the innovative filming techniques which I’ve mentioned in other threads and which go to the heart of the story - presaging or echoing of certain moments, replaying of scenes with different perspectives, use of different frame rates, overcranking, step-printing, different exposures - it is a heartbreaking story of missed connections and lost love
― Dan S, Saturday, 25 March 2023 01:42 (three years ago)
also how most scenes are short but some are extended
― Dan S, Saturday, 25 March 2023 01:57 (three years ago)
I can’t claim to have noticed the innovative techniques. Not sure if it would’ve changed my impression, which is that the film was less entertaining than Chungking Express, Days of Being Wild, Happy Together or Fallen Angels.
― o. nate, Saturday, 25 March 2023 21:39 (three years ago)
I haven’t seen it since it was in theaters but Dan’s analysis seems to me otm. Will hopefully find some time in my busy schedule to rewatch soon/pvmic
― Old Man Reacts to Cloud (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 March 2023 21:45 (three years ago)