i quote/paraphrase man with a movie camera all the time lol, to absolutely no use or recognition: [X] WITHOUT INTERTITLES. [X] WITHOUT A SCENARIO. [X]... WITHOUT THE AID OF THEATER. i do find it v moving tbh, tho can understand distaste for its state-sponsored promethian brassiness.
my lynch opinions are not v useful at this point but m-dr is prob my least fave of his; i love p much everything in it, somewhere else.
voted renoir.
― difficult listening hour, Saturday, 7 January 2023 19:43 (one year ago) link
At the very least I like all of these, and love most of them. I always treat these polls as "favorite" rather than "best," so voted Lynch.
― The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Saturday, 7 January 2023 19:57 (one year ago) link
To the question of why I’ve never seen Seven Samurai, the answer is I don’t want to
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Saturday, 7 January 2023 bookmarkflaglink
Weird...but ok...
― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 7 January 2023 20:00 (one year ago) link
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 January 2023 20:04 (one year ago) link
I'm between Renoir, Murnau, Ozu, and Akerman. It's down to what I'd watch right now.
― circa1916, Saturday, 7 January 2023 21:23 (one year ago) link
Also love Lynch forever, but I still don’t grasp the anointment of MD above all. It’s about Hollywood. I’ll tuck that into my prior “films about film” complaint. Entirely too interesting mode for a certain sect.
― circa1916, Saturday, 7 January 2023 21:47 (one year ago) link
Vertigo is quite far from being my favorite Hitch joint.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 7 January 2023 22:17 (one year ago) link
I’m with Morbs in rating Vertigo at or near the top, maybe just behind Rear Window and Notorious
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Saturday, 7 January 2023 23:10 (one year ago) link
Kane might be the only one here I don’t regard as being one if its director’s best, along with Apocalypse
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Saturday, 7 January 2023 23:11 (one year ago) link
I’m with Morbs in rating _Vertigo_ at or near the top, maybe just behind _Rear Window_ and _Notorious_
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 7 January 2023 23:13 (one year ago) link
If you can't deal with Mifune's performance style, Kurosawa will never be for you.
He's a great actor who's so much more tolerable when he keeps the lid on, like in High and Low and The Bad Sleep Well.
― Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 7 January 2023 23:39 (one year ago) link
those are two of his best roles, but I also like the more unrestrained performances in the samurai/ronin films (Seven Samurai, Yojimbo, Sanjuro)
― Dan S, Sunday, 8 January 2023 00:25 (one year ago) link
_If you can't deal with Mifune's performance style, Kurosawa will never be for you._He's a great actor who's so much more tolerable when he keeps the lid on, like in _High and Low_ and _The Bad Sleep Well_.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2023 00:35 (one year ago) link
Didn’t really need to quote, sorry.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2023 00:36 (one year ago) link
I admire this decisiveness, sort of, but I'm a slave to polls of this kind, especially if they're consensus-based and I'm familiar with most of the entries already. I'd have to have a big prejudice against a film I haven't seen on a list like this not to add it to my informal "should watch" list.
― Halfway there but for you, Sunday, 8 January 2023 01:11 (one year ago) link
My Hitchcock top five today:
NotoriousStrangers on a TrainRear WindowSabotagePsycho
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 02:47 (one year ago) link
2001 slander made me pull the trigger for it
― sault bae (voodoo chili), Sunday, 8 January 2023 03:29 (one year ago) link
_To the question of why I’ve never seen Seven Samurai, the answer is I don’t want to_I admire this decisiveness, sort of, but I'm a slave to polls of this kind, especially if they're consensus-based and I'm familiar with most of the entries already. I'd have to have a big prejudice against a film I haven't seen on a list like this not to add it to my informal "should watch" list.
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 8 January 2023 05:39 (one year ago) link
Cannot believe ppl are questioning Mifune when there is a Marlon Brando "performance" in here.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 08:20 (one year ago) link
xp: funnily enough I love the role Seven Samurai plays in Helen DeWitt's The Last Samurai, where the single mother looks to show the film to her son as a father figure substitute.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 08:24 (one year ago) link
Apocalypse Now is an enjoyable enough movie I guess but the thought of it being in somebody's top 200 of anything is just boggling my mind
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:03 (one year ago) link
It's ok, when it's on TV I will watch an hour of it.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:06 (one year ago) link
depending on the day it would be de jeu, searchers or dielman. today it's renoir.
― devvvine, Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:07 (one year ago) link
Might vote for Cléo to be annoying
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:11 (one year ago) link
It's not as annoying as not watching Seven Samurai because you've been traumatised by film bro polls.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:14 (one year ago) link
tbf it's not the best Kurosawa or the best samurai movie even
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:15 (one year ago) link
It wouldn't be in my top 20 or my favourite Kurosawa, but it's so much more fun than watching Americans go on about Apocalypse now as a Vietnam War 'statement'.
― xyzzzz__, Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:18 (one year ago) link
as i say AN to me is the most ridiculous entry - maybe the only ridiculous entry - in the list. how many 18 year old boys vote in this thing?
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2023 09:21 (one year ago) link
Twenty-one-year-old film bros are worse than 18-year-olds.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 10:28 (one year ago) link
it's all a long distant memory to me
― Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 8 January 2023 10:34 (one year ago) link
I prefer yojimbo and hidden fortress to seven samurai but that doesn't make it anything close to mediocrity
― calzino, Sunday, 8 January 2023 10:49 (one year ago) link
I think Ikiru should be the consensus pick, less of the trad masc concerns and also a better intro as not four hours long. That said I do love SS and if this was a best ever director poll I think Kurosawa would be my guy.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 8 January 2023 11:03 (one year ago) link
I'm terrible with Kurusawa, usually I always rewatch his samurai movies that I've seen umpteen times already rather than his more subtle masterpieces, but his samurai movies rule so much!
― calzino, Sunday, 8 January 2023 11:15 (one year ago) link
We all love Kurosawa. It's settled! *bangs gavel*
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 12:50 (one year ago) link
Finally managed to score a copy of the mag, a single solitary copy in McColl's in Govan! Citizen Kane cover - of course I wanted the Jeanne Dielman, but the mag does reproduce this amazing pic as a full page:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGMdzURWwAErD7r.jpg
They give a selection of the director ballots only, no critics. Good lists - by which I mean, introduced me to films I'd not heard of before - from Khalik Allah, Radu Jude, Alexandre Koberidze, Alice Rohrwacher, Peter Strickland, Apichatpong Weerasethakul. An all-French list from Wes Anderson with some interesting choices. Fun list from Terence Davies, including two Doris Day films. Wouldn't have expected Peter Greenaway to choose Blade Runner.
― Ward Fowler, Sunday, 8 January 2023 13:01 (one year ago) link
Nice! Love that picture!
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2023 13:22 (one year ago) link
Really want to vote for something that includes jokes, which narrows things down pretty severely
― waste of compute (One Eye Open), Sunday, 8 January 2023 13:44 (one year ago) link
seven samurai it is
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:07 (one year ago) link
Ikiru is pish, Dersu Uzala is my kurosawa joint
― or something, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:12 (one year ago) link
I haven't seen that one, and of his late stuff only seen Kagemusha and Ran - so some serious gaps there.
― calzino, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:16 (one year ago) link
I like Dreams too, only seen 6 or 7 myself
― or something, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:19 (one year ago) link
there was a feature on bbc radio about the Rashomon influence on modern tv drama, it had the opposite effect of interesting me in watching any of this stuff or even the original again!
― calzino, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:25 (one year ago) link
They're doing the complete Kurosawa at the BFI right now. I caught One Wonderful Sunday - Kurosawa does Capra kinda, doesn't entirely work but there's some good stuff in there. At one point the female protagonist breaks the fourth wall and starts begging the viewers to clap for her husband and for all the young couples trying to make a living in postwar Japan, they need the help. No cunt clapped.
― Daniel_Rf, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:26 (one year ago) link
all clapped out in the UK
― calzino, Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:29 (one year ago) link
every time someone types "influence" mark s gets his wings
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 8 January 2023 14:30 (one year ago) link
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 8 January 2023 15:59 (one year ago) link
Ope sorry, my gavel broke
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:00 (one year ago) link
Study, study, screen, screen, or bonk bonk on the head!
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:01 (one year ago) link
Lol, Alfred.
Really curious about Terence Davies’s list, especially the two Doris Days.
― Farewell to Evening in Paradise (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 8 January 2023 16:19 (one year ago) link
Oh, I know: we're suckers for films about films. But this is Kiarostami's fascination.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 23 January 2023 00:57 (one year ago) link
That he inserted himself into the middle of the film and changed the course of events makes it unlike any other film I think
― Dan S, Monday, 23 January 2023 01:07 (one year ago) link
Tokyo Story became the default Ozu because it references neither a season nor a time of day and as such is easier not to get mixed up with a different Ozus.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 23 January 2023 10:43 (one year ago) link
Tokyo Story's '92 placement (surprise top 3) fed into its availability in the ensuing decade(s) ... I agree with Dan S that Close-Up is perhaps the slipperiest of Kiarostami's meta experiments, which is also to account for it getting pushed to the top.
(Also, '22 seemed to take a lot of cues from '12 in terms of what new masters' "default" picks would be)
― عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Monday, 23 January 2023 12:41 (one year ago) link
Come by!
https://com.miami.edu/event/the-sight-sound-top-ten-jeanne-dielman/
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 26 January 2023 01:22 (one year ago) link
I wish I was in Miami instead of cold and drizzly New Jersey. Speaking of how certain films seem to get selected as the representative for a director who often made many films in a similar style, of the 5 Wong Kar Wai films I’ve seen, In the Mood for Love is the one that made the least impression on me. But I get that it’s kind of the most grown-up and has the best production values.
― o. nate, Thursday, 26 January 2023 02:12 (one year ago) link
I usually don’t let the weather get to me, but the cold drizzle this evening and stepping over or walking through the resultant puddles was totally a bummer.
― Cry for a Shadowgraph (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 26 January 2023 05:15 (one year ago) link
The Godfather is on tonight on film 4 uk (II tomorrow, III on friday, repeated next week). making it about a dozen of the S&S top 100 that've been on free-to-air tv since mid-december.
(and Parasite is on again next week)
― koogs, Wednesday, 1 March 2023 20:13 (one year ago) link
I've been watching the shortest movies on the list that i haven't seen before. Partie de campagne, The house is black, black girl, several under 90 minutes. Gotta build up to edward yang, bela tarr, those endless documentaries...
Pyaasa is leaving Criterion channel this month so I'll try to watch that longer one.
― adam t. (abanana), Friday, 3 March 2023 09:04 (one year ago) link
Oh! Need to watch all those Guru Dutts! Meaning I need to, maybe somebody else needs to as well.
― Wile E. Galore (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 3 March 2023 15:19 (one year ago) link
"...of the 5 Wong Kar Wai films I’ve seen, In the Mood for Love is the one that made the least impression on me"
re: In the Mood for Love, the characters repeatedly meet in a cramped 1960s Hong Kong apartment building (to a couple of Spanish language Nat King Cole songs on the soundtrack). She is always wearing different beautiful cheongsams. They get to know each other and eventually role-play the adultery they think represents the lives of their spouses. They try to imagine confronting their spouses and can’t. They yearn for the same connection with each other and it becomes very palpable for them, but then it is gone. The events are told in short-hand
In addition to the innovative filming techniques which I’ve mentioned in other threads and which go to the heart of the story - presaging or echoing of certain moments, replaying of scenes with different perspectives, use of different frame rates, overcranking, step-printing, different exposures - it is a heartbreaking story of missed connections and lost love
― Dan S, Saturday, 25 March 2023 01:42 (one year ago) link
also how most scenes are short but some are extended
― Dan S, Saturday, 25 March 2023 01:57 (one year ago) link
I can’t claim to have noticed the innovative techniques. Not sure if it would’ve changed my impression, which is that the film was less entertaining than Chungking Express, Days of Being Wild, Happy Together or Fallen Angels.
― o. nate, Saturday, 25 March 2023 21:39 (one year ago) link
I haven’t seen it since it was in theaters but Dan’s analysis seems to me otm. Will hopefully find some time in my busy schedule to rewatch soon/pvmic
― Old Man Reacts to Cloud (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 25 March 2023 21:45 (one year ago) link