U.S. Politics January 2023: Kevin McCarthy's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Life

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oh yeah, for sure. from the democratic perspective, there are few options. you just have to let them do it, again, and hope that they suffer any sort of consequence, for it. but 2023 is a great year to do it for the GOP. it'll take place more than a year before the 2024 elections. there is 0.0% chance that any voter will remember it in Nov 2024.

Karl Malone, Friday, 6 January 2023 20:49 (three years ago)

This time around I doubt Biden will negotiate. You can see in the last six months that he likes winning.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 January 2023 21:00 (three years ago)

Most Americans didn't care about endless Benghazi / email hearings either, but the ones who cared REALLY cared.

Most Americans don't care about Hunter's laptop, but the people hyperfocused on it are REALLY hyperfocused on it. The Gaetz/Boebert crowd isn't trying to win the applause from most Americans, they're trying to satisfy a specific bloodthirsty niche audience. And they're good at it.

I got two Clark Gables and a slide trombone (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 6 January 2023 21:13 (three years ago)

Just like most Americans don't care about this farrago; it's a part of the Washington-is-broken-both-parties-suck drivel I hear in the wild at least twice a week.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 January 2023 21:14 (three years ago)

but the more the GOP in general becomes associated with the boebert wing, the worse they will fare in state and federal elections.

treeship., Friday, 6 January 2023 21:17 (three years ago)

Yeah, I think overall this hurts the Republicans. And a debt shutdown will too, especially if the Democrats get their messaging in order. Not just make them own the shutdown, but highlight why they're doing it (because they want to cut Social Security, Medicare, etc).

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 6 January 2023 21:19 (three years ago)

there is 0.0% chance that any voter will remember it in Nov 2024.

You know that "smart people"/"Washington insiders" said this about repealing Roe v. Wade, right? People remember shit when it pisses them off enough. And tanking the economy — because that is what will happen; it will be a Brexit-level financial catastrophe, worse than the 2008 recession but happening in, like, a week — will piss off EVERYONE. It will particularly piss off the rich investor class, because it's not the kind of thing you can hedge against or short sell your way out of. We will be FFFFFUUUUUCKED.

but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 6 January 2023 21:44 (three years ago)

News: Katie Porter may launch Senate campaign before Feinstein announces her 2024 plans per five sources

Lee also planning run and Schiff’s said he’ll consider seat if DiFi retires

@sarahnferris⁩ ⁦@hollyotterbeinhttps://t.co/kYcdPyDdRS

— Burgess Everett (@burgessev) January 6, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 6 January 2023 21:53 (three years ago)

the thing about remembering individual events come time to vote is yeah people might not be thinking of some thing that happened years ago but it doesnt mean that thing didnt help to form their opinions

lag∞n, Friday, 6 January 2023 22:11 (three years ago)

xpost if they actually do succeed in making the U.S. go into default, i think people would remember it a year later. god, i hope they would. but despite their being some temporary political damage to the GOP after they created the 2011 and 2013 debt ceiling hostage situations, it didn't seem to create lasting consequences. at least, no more so than the 2013, january 2018, or dec 2018-jan 2019 government shutdowns.

i guess the question is whether or not this GOP congress would actually push us into default or not. i do agree that it's more likely now than it was the previous two times.

Karl Malone, Friday, 6 January 2023 22:16 (three years ago)

Going after Social Security money was the tipping point for the Bush Admin, forcing a shutdown and/or default because they want everyone's grandma to get $200 less a month is the kind of thing that has consequences down the line.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 6 January 2023 22:20 (three years ago)

BREAKING: Live look at the Republican house leadership as we enter the 4th straight day of the speaker holdout. pic.twitter.com/hhQ369dZ69

— James (@GravitysRa1nbow) January 6, 2023

MoominTrollin, Friday, 6 January 2023 22:23 (three years ago)

Just like most Americans don't care about this farrago; it's a part of the Washington-is-broken-both-parties-suck drivel I hear in the wild at least twice a week.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, January 6, 2023 1:14 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

Most people are actually correct when they say this sort of "drivel."

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 6 January 2023 23:04 (three years ago)

The difference is one party has genuine differences within it about the influence of corporate money, the role of labor unions, what to do with lawless police departments, our posture toward Israel, etc. It's a political party. While the other nominal party -- a pathology really -- comprises trolls and insurrectionists.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 January 2023 23:10 (three years ago)

democrats have a good politics wing but theyre not the ones in charge

lag∞n, Friday, 6 January 2023 23:16 (three years ago)

I agree with you insofar as what you say is correct, but tend to think that most of the disagreements within the Dems are performative, as they know where their bread is buttered. We can disagree on this again, but let's just leave it at me being more of a cynic.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 6 January 2023 23:16 (three years ago)

I'm not a labor lawyer, but this strikes me as a big deal?

In a far-reaching move that could raise wages and increase competition among businesses, the Federal Trade Commission on Thursday unveiled a rule that would block companies from limiting their employees’ ability to work for a rival.

The proposed rule would ban provisions of labor contracts known as noncompete agreements, which prevent workers from leaving for a competitor or starting a competing business for months or years after their employment, often within a certain geographic area. The agreements have applied to workers as varied as sandwich makers, hairstylists, doctors and software engineers.

Studies show that noncompetes, which appear to directly affect roughly 20 percent to 45 percent of U.S. workers in the private sector, hold down pay because job switching is one of the more reliable ways of securing a raise. Many economists believe they help explain why pay for middle-income workers has stagnated in recent decades.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 January 2023 23:19 (three years ago)

Very big.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 6 January 2023 23:20 (three years ago)

democrats have a good politics wing but theyre not the ones in charge

― lag∞n, Friday, January 6, 2023

I live in Florida lol -- don't I know it

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 6 January 2023 23:20 (three years ago)

good stuff re non competes

lag∞n, Friday, 6 January 2023 23:21 (three years ago)

there are so many ways that wages are suppressed, including the work of the federal reserve, good to get rid of one of them

lag∞n, Friday, 6 January 2023 23:23 (three years ago)

When I did paralegal work, I did a *lot* of research on non-competes. Really interesting area of the law, imho, but yes, good news!!

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Friday, 6 January 2023 23:27 (three years ago)

the federal employee unions should enjoy this new addition to the proposed rules package:

If passed, the package would reinstate the Holman rule, an obscure procedural rule that “allows amendments to appropriations legislation that would reduce the salary of or fire specific federal employees, or cut a specific program.” As The Washington Post reported in 2017, the last time Republicans revived the Holman Rule, Democrats criticized the move because it threatened to upend the federal workforce.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 7 January 2023 03:14 (three years ago)

They are back to voting for the 14th time now, this may be the one.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 7 January 2023 03:17 (three years ago)

Boebert votes Present, is pissed

Karl Malone, Saturday, 7 January 2023 03:23 (three years ago)

Does that clinch it? I wonder if anyone is asleep.

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 7 January 2023 03:25 (three years ago)

Boebert votes Present, is pissed

lol yes she sounded like she was grinding her teeth so hard they were going to crack

Clay, Saturday, 7 January 2023 03:26 (three years ago)

the holdouts and their votes this time around, so far:

biggs - jordan
boebert - present
crane - biggs
gaetz
good
harris
rosendale

Karl Malone, Saturday, 7 January 2023 03:29 (three years ago)

Boebert seen visibly rebuffing an attempted fist bump

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Saturday, 7 January 2023 03:32 (three years ago)

gaetz - somehow missed the vote, most likely on newsmax right now. if anything, he probably wants to the opportunity to be the deciding/undeciding vote at the end of the process
good - jordan
harris - mccarthy (and no applause for that. i guess he already switched to mccarthy earlier)
rosendale - will vote when his name comes around several hours from now

Karl Malone, Saturday, 7 January 2023 03:38 (three years ago)

This Exterminating Angel remake sucks

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 7 January 2023 03:41 (three years ago)

gaetz - somehow missed the vote, most likely on newsmax right now. if anything, he probably wants to the opportunity to be the deciding/undeciding vote at the end of the process

Ain't no "probably" about it

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Saturday, 7 January 2023 03:55 (three years ago)

I wonder if McCarthy understands how doomed he is. You can’t take a role like that after everyone’s seen you humiliated in public over and over. He’s a punch line. A punching bag.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 7 January 2023 03:56 (three years ago)

and with rosendale's vote (biggs), it will hinge on Gaetz. he has to vote "mccarthy", not present. if he doesn't, this continues

Karl Malone, Saturday, 7 January 2023 03:56 (three years ago)

awkward

maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 7 January 2023 04:04 (three years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/Go5KWiE.png

mccarthy and gaetz are having kind of a tense, on floor argument as everyone watches, and mccarthy seems pissed.

and i just heard "we'll do it again" on a hot mic

Karl Malone, Saturday, 7 January 2023 04:04 (three years ago)

the guy hiding his shiteating grin just above the # 215 is eli crane, one of the holdouts all week. he's in congress because he sells bottle openers that are made out of 50 mm shell casings, and he was on shark tank and mark cuban invested. that's his only skill

Karl Malone, Saturday, 7 January 2023 04:06 (three years ago)

Good job, Gaetz! You got what you wanted: everyone watching you.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Saturday, 7 January 2023 04:06 (three years ago)

how the fuck is Gaetz not in jail yet?

frogbs, Saturday, 7 January 2023 04:08 (three years ago)

the american legal system for wealthy people is like a giant battleship. it takes a very long time to turn it in a new direction. but when you finally do, and point it toward justice, you can be assured that someone in the ship will probably press a button that makes it stop for several days, first, and then it might go back to the old direction. it depends on who has more money

Karl Malone, Saturday, 7 January 2023 04:13 (three years ago)

motion to adjourn until monday. they'll vote on that now.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 7 January 2023 04:17 (three years ago)

so did the right flank promise McCarthy he was good and then Lucy the football away? If so: that kinda rules

Clay, Saturday, 7 January 2023 04:22 (three years ago)

during that tense confrontation with mccarthy, i missed this:

At one point a McCarthy ally, Mike Rogers of Alabama, stormed into the huddle and seemed on the brink of violence, but he retreated to a cloakroom off the floor.

kick his ass mike rogers!

Karl Malone, Saturday, 7 January 2023 04:23 (three years ago)

i do feel kind of bad for the Hunt guy, who was in DC all week as his wife gave birth to a premature baby, flew to TX and back today, just for this vote that matt gaetz fucked up.

Karl Malone, Saturday, 7 January 2023 04:25 (three years ago)

Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) walks away from Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) as an altercation with Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Ala.) breaks out during a session of the House of Representatives to elect a Speaker of the House. Jack Gruber-USA TODAY @guygruber @usatoday pic.twitter.com/iUiXbdp9RV

— Andrew P. Scott (@apscott) January 7, 2023

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Saturday, 7 January 2023 04:29 (three years ago)

Iconic

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Saturday, 7 January 2023 04:29 (three years ago)

He’s gonna get fewer votes on Monday

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 7 January 2023 04:30 (three years ago)

Would love to see one of the football heart attack meatheads in the gop leadership beat the shit out of gaetz on the house floor.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 7 January 2023 04:30 (three years ago)

Bring this back https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caning_of_Charles_Sumner

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Saturday, 7 January 2023 04:33 (three years ago)

Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, a Republican from Georgia, holds her smart phone with former US President Donald Trump on the line, as Rep. Matt Rosendale, a Republican from Montana, waves it off during a meeting of the 118th Congress in the House Chamber on Friday.#SpeakerVote pic.twitter.com/VWvOGfXd9Q

— Al Drago (@Al_Drago) January 7, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 7 January 2023 04:33 (three years ago)


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