U.S. Politics January 2023: Kevin McCarthy's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Life

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(e.g., Upton, and lol Trump)

Upton Sinclair as house speaker? I like it!

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:54 (three years ago)

xp that seems like progress for mccarthy given that jordan nominated him this round. not a lot admittedly.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:55 (three years ago)

Jim Jordan is a gigantic piece of shit. he nominated McCarthy again for this second round, and voted from him). but it seems likely that Jordan was aware that he would become an alternative candidate during this process. by nominating mccarthy and then voting for him during failed second vote, maybe Jordan's thought (his first one) is that he can later claim to be a consensus candidate that showed real support for mccarthy, etc, but ultimately had to bow to the GOP's will to choose Jordan instead, a role he would reluctantly accept out of respect to patriotism, etc etc

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:57 (three years ago)

but it goes without saying that there is no way that Jordan will become speaker of the house. so that whole plan is doomed as well

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:58 (three years ago)

they should elect McCarthy, then immediately vote to vacate the chair. that would be funnier

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:58 (three years ago)

be hilarious if a bunch of people abstained and didn't realize that only a quorum of votes cast are required (not total members of the House), and Jeffries wins

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:59 (three years ago)

as far as the '5 votes to introduce motion to vacate' thing goes, caek otm upthread that having 19 people vote against mccarthy in the first round suggests that it's an incredibly bad, short-sighted idea. if mccarthy ends up prevailing, i would guess that he'd just abandon that whole pledge. it hasn't been adopted yet, and he would be digging his own grave to allow it

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:00 (three years ago)

a speaker of the House has never been removed and the ability for the House to do so is theoretically, based on a memo from Jefferson. it would probably get tangled up in Court.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:02 (three years ago)

*theoretical

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:02 (three years ago)

i saw it described as handing every member an signed, undated resignation letter which sounds about right.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:03 (three years ago)

Jordan w/ 18 votes!

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:04 (three years ago)

you can see the importance of the fraud from new york, george santos. the GOP needs every single vote during the next 2 years. they're already down to a 4-vote margin and you can see how that motivates the more openly corrupt members of the party. take that down to 3 votes and it gives them even more power, and it also adds to the annoyance of the GOP actually having to show up to vote, in person - all of them - for every vote for the next two years. if someone is sick, if someone's kid is getting married, if someone needs to appear at a white supremacist convention, anything at all that is very common for a GOP Rep., they have to instead do the last thing on earth that they ever wanted, which is to show up in DC and fulfill the bare minimum obligations of their office. it's a really hard time for them

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:04 (three years ago)

Imagine being so dumb and bankrupt that you swear to all hell that Jordan of all people will come through for you. https://t.co/P3WF7Vi3T9

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) January 3, 2023

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:05 (three years ago)

Jordan at 19. is that all it will be?

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:06 (three years ago)

god I'm hoping some of the insane white supremacists don't know what a quorum is

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:07 (three years ago)

I've been joking about Jeffries becoming speaker but my god

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:08 (three years ago)

there's no way

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:10 (three years ago)

and if did happen, holy shit don't go to a rural area for a while because things would get really frightening

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:12 (three years ago)

Greek Chorus for speaker

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:13 (three years ago)

clint eastwood's empty obama chair for speaker

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:14 (three years ago)

going to third ballot lmao

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:14 (three years ago)

Thus sucker's going to a sixth, seventh, and eighth ballot

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:15 (three years ago)

Miami Sound Machine wrote a song about this

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:16 (three years ago)

The wives have gone home, the congressmen are stuck making googoo eyes at the pages.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:16 (three years ago)

Jeffries - 212
McCarthy - 203
Jordan - 19

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:16 (three years ago)

nobody budged, lol

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:16 (three years ago)

i know this is incredibly dumb, but hear me out: what if one of them nominates "the constitution"

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:17 (three years ago)

https://i.ibb.co/bXrYMNK/2023-01-03-15-18-23.jpg

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:19 (three years ago)

" ... you don't think!"

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:24 (three years ago)

“McCarthy agrees to provide caucus members Dove bars every night, personally, like Santa Claus”

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:25 (three years ago)

hear me out: what if one of them nominates "the constitution"

Maga McFreedom-Eagle

Immodest Moose (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:28 (three years ago)

We only need 131 more ballots to beat the record set in 1856

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:29 (three years ago)

I’m skeptical that the recent trend of horrible people getting publicly dragged (musk, FTX, Tate) will continue for long but you have to enjoy this while it lasts

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:30 (three years ago)

xp the thing about the 1856 vote is that there was a gentleman’s agreement to take a shot of whisky after each round. Arguably prolonged the process significantly, although it made that evening’s game of The Congressional Razz more captivating then ever

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:32 (three years ago)

If we reach 44 rounds of balloting, take note of the context from this wiki note:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Flkx_qtWQAIxq2k?format=png&name=large

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:32 (three years ago)

An election for speaker took place over the course of eight weeks, December 5, 1859 through February 1, 1860, at the start of the 36th Congress, following the 1858 / 59 elections in which the Republicans won a plurality of the seats. William Pennington, a freshman congressman, received a majority of the votes cast in the 44th ballot and was elected speaker. The bitter election dispute deepened the rift between slave states and free states and helped push Southern political leaders further toward secession.

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:33 (three years ago)

none of them are sane/clever enough https://mastodon.social/@mtsw/109627048832223852

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:34 (three years ago)

Conservatives will vote for Rep. Jim Jordan on the third ballot too, according to GOP Rep. Bob Good.

Good told CNN that he expects Jordan’s support to grow.

He said the fact that Jordan doesn’t want the gavel is “exactly” why they want him.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:36 (three years ago)

Hmm, I see Anthony Devolder's path to the speakership there. xps

The Terroir of Tiny Town (WmC), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:37 (three years ago)

xp The communicative skills on display here, truly inspirational

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:37 (three years ago)

Better this than voting to repeal Obamacare again though

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:38 (three years ago)

Can't believe there hasn't been a single bootlicker to throw Trump's name in the mix.

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:39 (three years ago)

we're just getting started! seems like someone will nominate him at some point, if nothing else than because they would get an article written about them

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:42 (three years ago)

Some Democrats might not show up for future rounds, I’m told, by several sources… some are just bored by the House GOP drama, others think it’s better than voting present

— Robert Costa (@costareports) January 3, 2023


For now, it’s wait and see mode. What’s happening is some are gaming out what a missed vote or present vote would mean for the threshold and ending the chaos, all while wanting to stay on @RepJeffries’s good side. No one wants to break ranks but many don’t want to be here all day

— Robert Costa (@costareports) January 3, 2023

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:47 (three years ago)

this seems the most believable outcome tbh

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:48 (three years ago)

Sounds likes a real hostage situation

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:48 (three years ago)

Always bet on laziness

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:49 (three years ago)

pete sessions, voice of reason

“Sixteen of the 19 will be there until the cows come home,” said Rep. Pete Sessions (R-Texas), a supporter of Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.). “I think it ends when someone grows weary … I think this costs us prestige. There’s an old saying that the whole world is watching. The whole world is watching. I’d like to see us fight like hell internally to make this work.”

“I think somebody’s going to have to say, this is starting to look bad,’” Sessions continued, adding that he didn’t have any other names of a consensus candidate. “I’m not there yet.”

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:49 (three years ago)

Yes, when I think of the current GOP, "prestige" is the first thing that comes to mind.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:51 (three years ago)

Dennis Hastert could be Speaker from prison via Zoom

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:54 (three years ago)


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