U.S. Politics January 2023: Kevin McCarthy's Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Life

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Korea, Career, Korea, whatever

What a weird year this already is

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:26 (three years ago)

OK, I've lost interest now

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:26 (three years ago)

would Jim JOrdan as speaker just help speed dissolution? I'm sure he'd focus on really important things.

Stevolende, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:31 (three years ago)

just got home after a few hours of not checking my phone. lol at him losing 19 votes. also lol at news that Jordan is trying to persuade his goon squad to vote for McCarthy, and instead, some of those goons are voting for Jordan instead. McCarthy has already lost this second round, as well.

looking forward to seeing how long Mccarthy's pledge to remove the wheel from his "car" and slam on the accelerator pedal will last

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:41 (three years ago)

So what's the play now? All the anti-McCarthy people vote for Jordan and then Jordan throws his votes to McCarthy?

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:41 (three years ago)

how does the second round work exactly

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:43 (three years ago)

there is no plan, now. really, i don't think anyone knows. i don't know how this ever resolves, unless 19 people in mccarthy's own caucus suddenly figure out that they're incredibly dumb

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:43 (three years ago)

can Jeffries briefly pretend to be a racist bigot for 5 minutes and con people into votes

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:43 (three years ago)

xp I don't think you'd go broke betting against their ever figuring that out.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:44 (three years ago)

how far does this go before McCarthy approaches Jeffries with help on a compromise?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:44 (three years ago)

Strom Thurmond nominated

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:45 (three years ago)

i guess if i had to bet, i would only bet $1, and i would wildly speculate that the only person who the current house GOP could agree on is going to be someone who isn't in congress (e.g., Upton, and lol Trump)

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:45 (three years ago)

again, i think the astonishing thing is that mccarthy already bent over backwards to show himself to have absolutely no spine and to make clear that white supremacists would be running the show. i don't know what else the freedom caucus could want, they got their ideal stooge to take the heat for their corruption

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:47 (three years ago)

josh marshall:

One of the core dynamics here is that, McCarthy’s strategy was to give the radicals anything and everything. Because that was the case, he had nothing really left to give. That’s not the only dynamic here. But it’s an important part of this. He enabled them. They want to make trouble. And the only trouble left to make was to destroy McCarthy himself.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:48 (three years ago)

so McCarthy's already lost again. Too bad they have to go through the whole roll call.

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:48 (three years ago)

the idea with these repeat votes is that people change their vote after they've made their point. is *anyone* changing their vote on this round?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:52 (three years ago)

yes, but not in a way that helps mccarthy. Good and Gosar went from supporting Biggs (lol) to Jordan.

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:54 (three years ago)

(e.g., Upton, and lol Trump)

Upton Sinclair as house speaker? I like it!

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:54 (three years ago)

xp that seems like progress for mccarthy given that jordan nominated him this round. not a lot admittedly.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:55 (three years ago)

Jim Jordan is a gigantic piece of shit. he nominated McCarthy again for this second round, and voted from him). but it seems likely that Jordan was aware that he would become an alternative candidate during this process. by nominating mccarthy and then voting for him during failed second vote, maybe Jordan's thought (his first one) is that he can later claim to be a consensus candidate that showed real support for mccarthy, etc, but ultimately had to bow to the GOP's will to choose Jordan instead, a role he would reluctantly accept out of respect to patriotism, etc etc

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:57 (three years ago)

but it goes without saying that there is no way that Jordan will become speaker of the house. so that whole plan is doomed as well

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:58 (three years ago)

they should elect McCarthy, then immediately vote to vacate the chair. that would be funnier

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:58 (three years ago)

be hilarious if a bunch of people abstained and didn't realize that only a quorum of votes cast are required (not total members of the House), and Jeffries wins

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 19:59 (three years ago)

as far as the '5 votes to introduce motion to vacate' thing goes, caek otm upthread that having 19 people vote against mccarthy in the first round suggests that it's an incredibly bad, short-sighted idea. if mccarthy ends up prevailing, i would guess that he'd just abandon that whole pledge. it hasn't been adopted yet, and he would be digging his own grave to allow it

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:00 (three years ago)

a speaker of the House has never been removed and the ability for the House to do so is theoretically, based on a memo from Jefferson. it would probably get tangled up in Court.

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:02 (three years ago)

*theoretical

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:02 (three years ago)

i saw it described as handing every member an signed, undated resignation letter which sounds about right.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:03 (three years ago)

Jordan w/ 18 votes!

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:04 (three years ago)

you can see the importance of the fraud from new york, george santos. the GOP needs every single vote during the next 2 years. they're already down to a 4-vote margin and you can see how that motivates the more openly corrupt members of the party. take that down to 3 votes and it gives them even more power, and it also adds to the annoyance of the GOP actually having to show up to vote, in person - all of them - for every vote for the next two years. if someone is sick, if someone's kid is getting married, if someone needs to appear at a white supremacist convention, anything at all that is very common for a GOP Rep., they have to instead do the last thing on earth that they ever wanted, which is to show up in DC and fulfill the bare minimum obligations of their office. it's a really hard time for them

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:04 (three years ago)

Imagine being so dumb and bankrupt that you swear to all hell that Jordan of all people will come through for you. https://t.co/P3WF7Vi3T9

— Richard M. Nixon (@dick_nixon) January 3, 2023

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:05 (three years ago)

Jordan at 19. is that all it will be?

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:06 (three years ago)

god I'm hoping some of the insane white supremacists don't know what a quorum is

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:07 (three years ago)

I've been joking about Jeffries becoming speaker but my god

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:08 (three years ago)

there's no way

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:10 (three years ago)

and if did happen, holy shit don't go to a rural area for a while because things would get really frightening

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:12 (three years ago)

Greek Chorus for speaker

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:13 (three years ago)

clint eastwood's empty obama chair for speaker

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:14 (three years ago)

going to third ballot lmao

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:14 (three years ago)

Thus sucker's going to a sixth, seventh, and eighth ballot

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:15 (three years ago)

Miami Sound Machine wrote a song about this

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:16 (three years ago)

The wives have gone home, the congressmen are stuck making googoo eyes at the pages.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:16 (three years ago)

Jeffries - 212
McCarthy - 203
Jordan - 19

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:16 (three years ago)

nobody budged, lol

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:16 (three years ago)

i know this is incredibly dumb, but hear me out: what if one of them nominates "the constitution"

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:17 (three years ago)

https://i.ibb.co/bXrYMNK/2023-01-03-15-18-23.jpg

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:19 (three years ago)

" ... you don't think!"

عباس کیارستمی (Eric H.), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:24 (three years ago)

“McCarthy agrees to provide caucus members Dove bars every night, personally, like Santa Claus”

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:25 (three years ago)

hear me out: what if one of them nominates "the constitution"

Maga McFreedom-Eagle

Immodest Moose (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:28 (three years ago)

We only need 131 more ballots to beat the record set in 1856

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:29 (three years ago)

I’m skeptical that the recent trend of horrible people getting publicly dragged (musk, FTX, Tate) will continue for long but you have to enjoy this while it lasts

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 3 January 2023 20:30 (three years ago)


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