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He is an avid supporter of Manchester United.[133]

Twa pehs an' an ingin ane an' aw (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 December 2022 15:44 (three years ago)

His wiki page is like entering some hideous parallel universe populated entirely by wankers.

Twa pehs an' an ingin ane an' aw (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 December 2022 15:45 (three years ago)

I'm still pissed off from reading it last time after the peterson incident

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 29 December 2022 15:53 (three years ago)

No need to resort to ad hominem.

When you've jumped on the prolonged creepy misogynist bandwagon attack on a teenage girl with a different opinion and can't handle the slightest pushback.

nashwan, Thursday, 29 December 2022 16:00 (three years ago)

The odd thing about 'ad hominem' is that it's a response to OJ calling him the former banjo player of that band - which is, I assume, just factual. Taking it as an insult is his own problem.

the pinefox, Thursday, 29 December 2022 16:02 (three years ago)

it actually is an insult but whose fault is that

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 29 December 2022 16:08 (three years ago)

Owen is a melt and I will defend him to the death because his enemies are bigot scum

Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 December 2022 16:10 (three years ago)

he's a liberal who seems to try to take seriously the putative liberal values his haters claim as their own, which is a noble and foolish endeavour

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 29 December 2022 16:26 (three years ago)

whether does more harm than good by acting as a leftmost limit on mainstream political discourse, or whether he performs an important service by (inadvertently) exposing the hollowness and hatefulness of british liberalism, I'm undecided

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 29 December 2022 16:32 (three years ago)

I just accept him for who he is and roll my eyes accordingly but he's a lightning rod for the evil

Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 December 2022 16:40 (three years ago)

I would prefer a lightning rod who REALLY despises the state of the Labour Party rather than all this "I shall have to reluctantly crawl through a symbolic corridor of vomit at the polling station to vote Labour again, oh dear but let's get these frightful tories out". Melts like him lack integrity because the status quo has given them an easy soft life, and they don't like upsetting the applecart!

calzino, Thursday, 29 December 2022 17:17 (three years ago)

Yet another situation where Dawn Foster is missed.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Thursday, 29 December 2022 18:18 (three years ago)

so much so, there isn't really anyone who was like her.

calzino, Thursday, 29 December 2022 18:21 (three years ago)

I used past tense there, but if there was someone like her now - they also would be sacked or put on "the list" by the Graun

calzino, Thursday, 29 December 2022 18:28 (three years ago)

These numbers are horrifying https://t.co/99OTWCLXff

— Liam Thorp (@LiamThorpECHO) January 1, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 1 January 2023 21:12 (three years ago)

.@RMTunion has done deals in every part of rail network where DfT is not involved:

Eurostar - Mitie security: 10% (29% for lowest paid)

Scotrail: 7-9%

Transport for Wales: 6.6%-9.5%

Merseyrail: 7%

MTR Crossrail: 8.2%

Docklands Light Railway: 9.25%

London Underground: 8.4%

— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) January 2, 2023

xyzzzz__, Monday, 2 January 2023 14:20 (three years ago)

damning

Tracer Hand, Monday, 2 January 2023 14:51 (three years ago)

This will put food on the table.

There are even larger numbers out there, sad to say https://t.co/rQ9XA7QlJ8

— Thar Barr Superstar (@WildState) January 3, 2023

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 09:35 (three years ago)

such a shit policy, some people are no good at maths and will never need it beyond a KS3 level anyway. also is obviously aping China once again, and as someone with plenty of experience of education in China this makes me want to bang my head against the wall, entire childhoods spent in rote memorization of useless shit, it's genuinely abusive.

but of course the labour response is "this lacks detail" fucking fuckers fuck right off.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 09:43 (three years ago)

A better way to improve numeracy would be to get 18 year olds to play Darts, not attend maths lessons that they will hate.

— Nigel Farage (@Nigel_Farage) January 4, 2023

the pinefox, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 10:40 (three years ago)

Labour MPs in the pocket of the betting industry should be talking about how betting shops could be a very effective mathematics learning zone for the 16-18's.

calzino, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 10:48 (three years ago)

You joke, but....

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 11:04 (three years ago)

The International Baccalaureate Diploma Programme taught in many international schools around the world requires all students to study maths and science up to 18, it doesn't seem like a bad idea to me. xps

lord of the rongs (anagram), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 11:39 (three years ago)

the only C i ever got was in high school calculus. i even went to after school sessions with a friend who was good in it, to try to get better, but just never really grasped it. am pretty confident in saying it was a complete waste of time. i loved writing and theatre. at age 17/18 i should really have been allowed to do something more intensive with those things

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 11:44 (three years ago)

There's a strong argument for increasing statistical literacy - trigonometry, not so much.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 11:57 (three years ago)

I learned maths working in the bookies and then in my next profession (lol) I had to learn ohm's law and how to transpose formulas which never had any practical use for the job other than giving you a better shot of passing the stupid pointless science exam for the qualification. Then after getting the qualification I was informed although I was "qualified" I wasn't "approved" because some sad JBL nerd hadn't watched me do it and beared witness to my competence!

calzino, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 12:06 (three years ago)

Whenever we had standardised tests I was always second-highest in the class in maths aptitude but I hated higher maths in the classroom. I only kept my GPA high by taking something called Informal Geometry pass/fail in the last year maths were required for me - it was full of arty kids and football players, and taught by the school’s football coach.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 12:11 (three years ago)

I did ok in my maths GCSE and made the mistake of choosing to take maths A-level, a year of painful attempts to understand what differentiation and integration were, including private tuition, resulted in a score of 5% in the end of year exams, which was not even enough for an 'F' - thankfully I saw the light and switched to English Literature and two years later got an A. If I had been forced to continue maths I dread to think what would have happened.

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 12:34 (three years ago)

Is it calculus or more accountancy style numbering? It's amazing that whatever problems the country is facing Sunak (like that exchange with the homeless bloke) comes out with something finance-adjacent.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 12:38 (three years ago)

economists use calculus a fair amount

i do actually feel a strong radical education would include the tools to convert many models and algorithms and user-friendly interfaces from mysterious obfuscatory black boxes into tools that can be turned to better use and explored for their bias and what they hide from us. however i suspect sunak does not have a strong radical education in mind

i also feel that ppl shd receive education towards their best skills and not merely wilfully or robotically against their worst psychological blocks -- but saying that, "learned incapacity" has come to be built into a lot of education as it currently exists, as a handy but inaccurate sorting tool, and we shd be as leery of truculent incuriosity beyond the arts as we are within them. tbh almost all maths is 10,000 hrs shit, the processing and internalisation and aggregation of many small tricks tackling very specific problems: and you can get p good at them w/o knowing why yr learning this. the difficult territory (for teachers) comes with when and the what of the incentivisation -- which is also where the politics comes in

mark s, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 13:01 (three years ago)

This piece is mostly good though there is a conspiratorial tone to some of it. New Lab was laughable but I don't think there was a sale to mates attitude (correct if I'm wrong on this). And it is in British capitalism's interest to have a healthy workforce.

Healthcare has become a lot more complex in terms of diagnosis, range of treatments and so on. Factor in stuff like mental health, too. This is not to say a lot of money needs to be poured into it, and that there should be less consultancy, but there are more moving parts that need to be managed in certain ways.

Why isn't the NHS crisis a bigger scandal? Because the people in charge of what becomes a scandal are the people responsible. Me for the Independent.https://t.co/l4z9nINfjc

— Phil McDuff (@PhilMcDuff) January 4, 2023

xp

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 13:03 (three years ago)

Bang on cue I got a phone call today about what I fondly imagined was a hospital appointment - but what was in fact a telephone appointment - begin postponed from 13 February to the 23rd March. To be fair my I only saw my GP about this particular problem in November, I've been waiting to see a consultant about a more serious problem since February last year and I'm finally seeing one on Thursday.

Aw naw, no' an Antonioni wan oan noo an' aw (Tom D.), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 13:10 (three years ago)

There's a decent summary of NHS privatisation history here: it's not an excuse to say that Blair seemed eager to ease the sale of it to generic rather than specific rich people - probably the same for Starmer (also he has no mates)

https://www.yournhsneedsyou.com/timeline/

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 4 January 2023 17:07 (three years ago)

re maths:

the vast majority of students in this country either pass their GCSE or are still having maths classes at age 18 in Further Ed so i'm not sure wtf Sunak is suggesting tbh

Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 17:28 (three years ago)

Most people in the UK attend state schools, of course he has no fucking clue what happens in them.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Wednesday, 4 January 2023 19:13 (three years ago)

Lol

Heavy industry background for Keir Starmer at UCL Here East in the Olympic Park, east London pic.twitter.com/l51WyBsDZp

— John Rentoul (@JohnRentoul) January 5, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 January 2023 11:25 (three years ago)

10 out of 10 Labour photocall today. (Pics: Alamy) pic.twitter.com/tSI5doDggY

— Ben Riley-Smith (@benrileysmith) January 5, 2023

bit high, bitch (gyac), Thursday, 5 January 2023 11:42 (three years ago)

no viz vest nor a hard hat for Kieth? he shits on rules and regs! And when you are 4ft tall you don't bang your head on stuff so often.

calzino, Thursday, 5 January 2023 11:47 (three years ago)

Fascism, lads. https://t.co/4Le9rC2kUi

— S C A L L Y M A G (@ScallyMagazine) January 5, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 January 2023 11:55 (three years ago)

they are supposedly trying to encourage people back into the workforce .. dissolving workers rights seems like a solid tactic

calzino, Thursday, 5 January 2023 11:58 (three years ago)

Impoverishing people so they have to put up with any old shite just to survive is a good Tory tactic tbf.

Aw naw, no' an Antonioni wan oan noo an' aw (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 January 2023 12:10 (three years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/6wPtLrW.jpg

conrad, Thursday, 5 January 2023 12:35 (three years ago)

oh that's a real pic then, lol I thought it was shopped

calzino, Thursday, 5 January 2023 12:39 (three years ago)

I just want to know who a photograph like that appeals to and induces faith in the subjects's political acumen

Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 5 January 2023 14:07 (three years ago)

https://tribunemag.co.uk/2023/01/mick-lynch-anti-union-laws-enough-is-enough

"Yes. Democracy has decayed in this country. We have left it to a professional class and that has been to our detriment."

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 January 2023 14:50 (three years ago)

I can't see anything other than increasing militancy stopping this. Lab will sit in their hands.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 January 2023 14:52 (three years ago)

in place of "in place of strife"

mark s, Thursday, 5 January 2023 15:30 (three years ago)

In place of strife more strife.

Aw naw, no' an Antonioni wan oan noo an' aw (Tom D.), Thursday, 5 January 2023 15:32 (three years ago)

You've gotta laugh.

Labour has taken "Making Brexit Work" to a ridiculous extent. Now a "Take Back Control" bill parrots the language of a hard ideological right-wing Brexit. pic.twitter.com/rdUeV6ut5Q

— Gerry Hassan 🇺🇦 (@GerryHassan) January 5, 2023

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 5 January 2023 15:42 (three years ago)


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