I think we bailed after three episodes, great hook but the writing just does not seem very good. :(
Coincidentally we're also watching I Love That For You, which also has Anna Waronker making fake (excellent) '90s songs.
― change display name (Jordan), Sunday, 25 December 2022 16:59 (three years ago)
ok i finished the season - show is pure pulpy trash and I love iti got so triggered by the way the girls would gang up on each other & have those standoffs, even the way they would talk to misty felt verrry horribly familiar mr veg was laughing/incredulous that Nat’s whole life / addiction was all so linked to Travis but in the flashbacks he treats her SO badly “like he’s never nice to her!” and i was like dude that’s always how it works!!! high school boys are ~fucking rotted~ the more emotionally unavailable they are the more damage they’ll do. like an out of control 18 wheeler leaving freeway pileups of girls in their wake lol
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 February 2023 16:28 (three years ago)
and i love the theme song
i was like dude that’s always how it works!!! high school boys are ~fucking rotted~ the more emotionally unavailable they are the more damage they’ll do.
otm!!! also it was super triggering ... like, it really is a horror tv series!
― sarahell, Monday, 20 February 2023 19:33 (three years ago)
yeah like emotional horror and actual horror
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 20 February 2023 20:03 (three years ago)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyTgg0fb9DA
― blatherskite, Friday, 24 March 2023 01:25 (three years ago)
man I really forgot a bunch of what happened on this show, the recap at the top of episode one helped a bunch but some of it's still pretty foggy.
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 25 March 2023 15:35 (three years ago)
is that a deaged or AI Loder?
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 25 March 2023 15:36 (three years ago)
just watched the first season of this show in time to start the second. first season is the show most targeted to my sensibilities i’ve ever seen. season 2 premiere was a lot of fun but my confidence in the show is sapped a little now that they’re introducing teens we’ve never seen before into the past timeline and pretending they were always there
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 31 March 2023 00:53 (three years ago)
i do love that the gay coach is the worst “adult in the room” ever
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Friday, 31 March 2023 00:57 (three years ago)
i am feeling the s2 openerthe more unhinged this shoe gets the more i enjoy iti laughed at the papa roach garage moment but i wish it was candlebox or creed or Live or something generally more feels x slightly lame
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 31 March 2023 02:35 (three years ago)
*show
now that they’re introducing teens we’ve never seen before into the past timeline and pretending they were always there
ok thanks for confirming this; were they not even shown in the background in season 1? they looked utterly unfamiliar to me
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 31 March 2023 03:12 (three years ago)
they’re tailies
― mh, Friday, 31 March 2023 12:17 (three years ago)
Adding my voice to the chorus of "How dare they"s re: introducing a new character and asking us to believe that NOT ONLY has she been there all along, but she was being so annoying offscreen that everyone is completely done with her bullshit by the time we meet her.
The one thing that might redeem the writers' weird choice there would be to keep the new character around until the team gets rescued, and then reveal that actually, she was a figment of Misty's imagination the entire time; it's Misty who everyone can't stand, Misty who has the compulsive singing tic; and how gullible can you viewers possibly be, that when a brand-new character appears unexplained among a group of starving delusional people trapped together in a cabin in the wilderness, you just blindly accept it?
― The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Friday, 31 March 2023 19:47 (three years ago)
I really hope e1 ends up being the worst of s2. It had its moments, but the way they kept cutting between the different plot threads and timelines (probably out of necessity, to get everything in motion for the season) felt super disjointed and unsatisfying.
― The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Friday, 31 March 2023 19:51 (three years ago)
Also I was glad that the show didn't sensationalize Lottie's ECT treatments as tv and movies have often done. The scene was pretty visceral and intense, but that's just how the sausage is made. I know some friends of mine have really benefited from it, but I wouldn't enjoy watching their sessions either.
― The king of the demo (bernard snowy), Friday, 31 March 2023 19:56 (three years ago)
ok i’m no longer worried. episode 2 was fucking amazing!!!!
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 2 April 2023 18:42 (three years ago)
That's good to hear. We weren't sure about episode one at all in our house. It was just kind of an unpleasant trudge.
― trishyb, Sunday, 2 April 2023 18:43 (three years ago)
Oh, turns out I thought episode two was an unpleasant trudge also. Maybe this show is not for me anymore.
― trishyb, Monday, 3 April 2023 12:52 (three years ago)
Have just got myself up to date with this. I pretty much enjoyed all of s1, this season… the Sharon van etten in the opening montage was a shameless attempt to woo the poster wins market (& I also enjoyed the usage of angst in my pants in the latest ep) For a show at the trashier end of mystery-box tv one thing i think they’ve done v well is give a real intensity to the flashback scenes that is then mostly deflated in the present day timeline (even as just as many outlandish things happen), the contrasting tones make the whole scars of adolescence metaphor pop way more than it should. I think the balance is a little off this season tho, which is maybe inevitable as they pile on more & more stuff Only a brief glimpse but the casting of adult van seems perfect
― michel goindry (wins), Saturday, 15 April 2023 22:26 (three years ago)
Addressing a nitpick above, it seems like nat’s roots are growing in now (my own s1 nitpick is that canonically Jackie is the first person ever to say “mayor of pound town”, a thing annoying ppl would start saying like 10 years later)
― michel goindry (wins), Saturday, 15 April 2023 22:36 (three years ago)
I def view present-day Shawna differently
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, 16 April 2023 03:29 (three years ago)
Hello adult Van - quick sidebar what the fuck is up with your cheesewagon video store name. While You Were Streaming? dude. srsly.
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 April 2023 05:18 (three years ago)
Haha, works for me.
― Chewshabadoo, Saturday, 22 April 2023 11:06 (three years ago)
Adult Van + the 4 Non Blondes song = otm
flashback use of "bestie" = anachronism
I occasionally wonder if the anachronisms are clues that those things didn't actually happen
Also, the fact that Van runs a video store in what contextually (i.e. hitch-hiked all across Pennsylvania) could be Pittsburg -- I doubt it's a Videodrome reference, but my brain went there
― sarahell, Saturday, 22 April 2023 15:52 (three years ago)
also impressed & shocked that Jeff is able to call Shauna out on her boundaryless parenting & terrible decision making when shauna reveals “oh by the way i thought it was a good idea to tell our daughter everything”love that jeff is like “what is wrong with you!?!? you MADE our DAUGHTER an ACCOMPLICE”
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 April 2023 16:03 (three years ago)
xp Haven’t seen the latest one but this doesn’t feel like a show that would leave those sorts of “clues”Any period thing will have the odd anachronism but it’s honestly damning with this kind of stuff that’s so easy to check, like nobody piping up to ask “would anyone really say garbage fire 30 years ago” just comes across as insultingly lazy (That’s a fake example but not really more egregious than the stuff that’s come up)
― michel goindry (wins), Saturday, 22 April 2023 16:08 (three years ago)
Or no, I think I am up to date — the last one I saw ended with the adult van reveal. I’m pirating so never sure what’s what
― michel goindry (wins), Saturday, 22 April 2023 16:10 (three years ago)
the hapless hijinks of Shauna + Jeff are really growing on me
― sarahell, Saturday, 22 April 2023 17:02 (three years ago)
yeah same; slowly gaining more of shaunas backstory makes their relationship more interesting to me, and kinda changes their dynamic
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 April 2023 18:39 (three years ago)
i guess the next big question is: the babby, how is it formed?
― sarahell, Saturday, 22 April 2023 18:42 (three years ago)
option 1 does not survive and is buried/cremated
option 2 they end up eating it, or at least part of it
option 3 Canadian equivalent of dingo gets it
― sarahell, Saturday, 22 April 2023 18:45 (three years ago)
A wendigo ate my baby
― the banshees of ed sheeran (flamboyant goon tie included), Saturday, 22 April 2023 20:40 (three years ago)
i am sure it will be suitably unhinged, whatever the case maybe
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 22 April 2023 23:29 (three years ago)
scene between lottie and nat this week is the show at its best
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 23 April 2023 01:10 (three years ago)
This season is dumb and bad but there are like three or four excellent moments per episode that keep me addicted
I think I would watch an entire movie just about Christina Ricci tbh
― the banshees of ed sheeran (flamboyant goon tie included), Sunday, 23 April 2023 02:04 (three years ago)
the actress (Samantha Hanratty) doing teen Misty really has the vibe locked in and it’s funny watching Ricci doing the adult version pretending she’s not the weirdo half the time
― mh, Sunday, 23 April 2023 22:26 (three years ago)
doing a terrible job pretending, obviously
And we found out why they introduced a new character in the early timeline.
― nickn, Monday, 24 April 2023 02:06 (three years ago)
lol way to ruin a good episode with that final shot
― Murgatroid, Saturday, 6 May 2023 04:16 (three years ago)
i do not understand how the final shot ruined the episode pls explain
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 May 2023 18:32 (three years ago)
anyway super traumatic episode
they could still eat it?
― sarahell, Sunday, 7 May 2023 18:34 (three years ago)
i may like this show even more now that it’s very uneven and is seesawing between being an bad melodrama and being completely fucked and gross
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Sunday, 7 May 2023 18:35 (three years ago)
irl lol, sarahell
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Sunday, 7 May 2023 18:51 (three years ago)
at this point i'm like, making the mental list of characters that we haven't seen in the present day and imagining why
― sarahell, Sunday, 7 May 2023 18:56 (three years ago)
I think that breaking the 4th wall and staring at the camera feels manipulative and cheap in this instance, scene was powerful enough w/o it and that final shot just irredeemably cheapened it for me
― Murgatroid, Sunday, 7 May 2023 18:59 (three years ago)
i think for me, it was like, we know the baby didn't make it ... it's really just about when it died and how and did it become food. ... i guess i found that whole piece of the story (the pregnancy) not all that inherently interesting, because there is a whole subgenre of horror about it (or multiple subgenres, depending on who is categorizing) ... like, i think at one point i even thought they might do a "dingo's got the baby" callback re a wolf ...
― sarahell, Sunday, 7 May 2023 19:06 (three years ago)
I don't know much about this show, or at least I've stayed spoiler free beyond the broad plane crash/Lord of the Flies setup, but I couldn't make it through the first episode. Just didn't like the writing or acting, really. It just felt so ... mildly edgy teen show? Is this one of those series that gets better, or is it one of those guilty pleasure shows?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 8 May 2023 01:00 (three years ago)