like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

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Oh George Orwell cunts have been a thing for ages now. Did Dorian write it?

bit high, bitch (gyac), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 19:57 (three years ago)

strangely not, i think it's Richard Bradford

partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 20:04 (three years ago)

That is accurate. The author mentioned is very prolific. It could be said that this author privileges quantity over quality.

As I recall, he produced the first ever biography of Martin Amis a few years ago, which was immediately disowned by Martin Amis.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 20:06 (three years ago)

Even if I believed the charges of racism against socialist MPs in recent years, which I don't, I would still find it strange to take up space on them in the middle of a book about an author who died over 70 years ago.

By the same token I would find it odd for a biography of Shelley to talk at length, however critically, about the views and policies of Theresa May and Rishi Sunak.

The fact that this author did this suggests that he is not just deeply wrong and malicious but also has lost all sense of place and propriety. An alternative explanation is that he had little to say about Orwell and the only way he could think of to fill space and give his publisher something to say to get attention was to make utterly irrelevant attacks on socialists from the 2010s.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 20:10 (three years ago)

Wait accusations of a pedophile ring operating in the British upper class turned out to be untrue? That’s a first.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 20:12 (three years ago)

Unproven, may well actually be true!

no jaki liebezeit required (Matt #2), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 20:15 (three years ago)

just because something is false doesn’t mean it’s not true

rick semper moranis (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 21 December 2022 20:17 (three years ago)

When Watson’s peerage was announced in October, the Tory former chancellor and now peer Norman Lamont called it “an absolute disgrace” and a “stain” on the Lords.

lol, when you are half in agreement with Lamont just before you lob a grenade in there. What happens if Tom discovers conclusive evidence that there really is a pedo-ring? He'll have to keep shtum because he's not a credible person!

calzino, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 21:51 (three years ago)

credulous

Mark G, Wednesday, 21 December 2022 22:08 (three years ago)

Speaking for myself, I think the worst case scenario is the Tories remaining in power. But second worst is a majority Labour Government. There is really very little evidence it wants power for anything other than selfish reasons - a turn at the wheel.

— Jo Maugham (@JolyonMaugham) December 22, 2022

the pinefox, Thursday, 22 December 2022 12:25 (three years ago)

expected melt responses in the replies. jolyon's face turn v good imo, maybe some glint of optimism to be found there.

devvvine, Thursday, 22 December 2022 12:49 (three years ago)

Jolyon has redeemed himself as much as a fox murderer can this last year or two

partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 December 2022 12:58 (three years ago)

And without having read any follow-ups he's made I agree, the (second) last thing anybody good needs is this authoritarian, pandering bunch of technocrats with unfettered power

partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 December 2022 13:00 (three years ago)

After you've battered a fox to death with a baseball bat while wearing a kimono the only way is up.

Kiss Me, Dudley (Tom D.), Thursday, 22 December 2022 13:01 (three years ago)

Telling.

Douglas Ross, the Scottish Conservative leader, asks about the gender recognition reform (Scotland) bill and amendments rejected by the Scottish government. He says the bill would allow a man standing trial for raping a woman to force his victim to refer to him as a woman, not a man, and he asks Sturgeon why she voted against an amendment that would have prevented this.

nashwan, Thursday, 22 December 2022 13:30 (three years ago)

1982: but what if gays are paedos?
2022: but what if trans women are rapists?

1982: we have to protect impressionable youngsters who may just be going through a phase.
2022: see above

1982: I don’t care what they get up to in their private lives, so why do they have to be so shrill and strident about it?
2022: see above

1982: gays don’t want equality, they want special treatment
2022: trans women don’t want equality, they want special treatment

1982: I won’t be silenced by trendy lefties
2022: I won’t be silenced by woke snowflakes

*sigh*

mike t-diva, Thursday, 22 December 2022 14:10 (three years ago)

Oh, and…
1982: gay men aren’t men
2022: trans women aren’t women

mike t-diva, Thursday, 22 December 2022 14:12 (three years ago)

horribly otm

partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 22 December 2022 14:32 (three years ago)

A British paper called Azealia Banks unhinged. She came for the entire country. pic.twitter.com/8QYdZrsJhw

— Omid Scobie (@scobie) December 21, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 22 December 2022 21:04 (three years ago)

There have been many of small wins.

🚨NEW: Go North East bus engineers have secured a pay deal worth up to 13.1% following industrial action. Strike action has now been called off.

— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) December 22, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 22 December 2022 21:29 (three years ago)

Merry Christmas UK

Sunak asks a homeless man in a homeless shelter whether he "works in business", then proceeds to talk about the financial services industry. Utterly bizarre pic.twitter.com/jQPzg7RR4h

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) December 24, 2022

Camaraderie at Arms Length, Saturday, 24 December 2022 12:09 (three years ago)

1998 was paradise on earth, apparently?

Yes, all of this was a fool’s paradise that went kaboom no later than 2008, and it’s as bad as it is now because we have spent fourteen years screaming at everyone who has noticed. pic.twitter.com/3diYSaalPr

— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) December 24, 2022

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 24 December 2022 18:10 (three years ago)

Shit for brains pundit got a visit from three ghosts looks like. God bless us every one!

pilk/pall revolting odors (wins), Saturday, 24 December 2022 18:45 (three years ago)

The envy of the world LOL

Twa pehs an' an ingin ane an' aw (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 December 2022 18:56 (three years ago)

"With his high profile bouts, world featherweight champion boxer ”Prince” Naseem Hamed is also associated with the era, as are alcopops and Lads' Magazines.[14]"

mark s, Saturday, 24 December 2022 19:10 (three years ago)

Had a good alcopops conversation in the pub yesterday

Prince Naseem not so much

partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 December 2022 19:40 (three years ago)

I saw some alcohol-free Strawberry & Lime Kopparbergs at the supermarket the other day. Which is basically an alcopop with no alcohol!

calzino, Saturday, 24 December 2022 19:45 (three years ago)

they're pretty nice when you're cutting down booze. not at pub prices tho

partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 December 2022 19:54 (three years ago)

I used to down the 4% ones when we'd have a liquid lunch at work, so you wouldn't get into any trouble talking to any management dicks or even kicked off the job for smelling of beer. I got quite attached to it at the time.

calzino, Saturday, 24 December 2022 20:10 (three years ago)

🚨NEW: Wirral bin workers have secured a 15% pay rise following industrial action.

— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) December 28, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 28 December 2022 17:45 (three years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/dec/29/labour-cant-turn-on-the-taps-from-day-one-on-spending-says-new-tuc-leader

What an inspiring message of “we can’t fix things”

Godzilla: (laughs) You are a fool, Mozart. You will never defeat me. (a hoy hoy), Thursday, 29 December 2022 11:38 (three years ago)

worked for biden

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 29 December 2022 11:39 (three years ago)

If you don't vote Labour to do nothing you're just enabling the Tories to do nothing

partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 December 2022 11:41 (three years ago)

Actually that's not fair, the official line is "if you don't think there's a difference between Labour and the Tories you're a moron, you're a child"

partez Maroc anthem (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 December 2022 11:42 (three years ago)

'do nothing' would actually work pretty well as the new labour party anthem. nothing ever change, oh no - they talk and talk, say nothing

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 29 December 2022 12:25 (three years ago)

But there's a load of policies they're thinking about which will marginally benefit people and, more importantly, maintain the iron grip of capital

Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 December 2022 12:49 (three years ago)

policeman come and smack me in the teeth, and that's absolutely right, we need tougher action on protestors questioning the blind pursuit of wealth

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 29 December 2022 13:07 (three years ago)

Dear Owen,

No need to resort to ad hominem.

For your perusal https://t.co/QNuaGPHK8Y

Yours
Winston https://t.co/KKPdYap2bn

— Winston Marshall (@MrWinMarshall) December 29, 2022

the pinefox, Thursday, 29 December 2022 15:02 (three years ago)

wish I hadn't accidentally downloaded that shite now I feel dirty. what scummy right wing thinktank does it come from

it's the least offensive part of all this but *of course* he's the kind of wanker to use "ad hominem" like that and of course he'd claim this sentence also an ad hominem

but seriously why won't people like this just fucking die

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 29 December 2022 15:41 (three years ago)

Winston Aubrey Aladar deBalkan Marshall, to give him his full name.

Twa pehs an' an ingin ane an' aw (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 December 2022 15:43 (three years ago)

He is an avid supporter of Manchester United.[133]

Twa pehs an' an ingin ane an' aw (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 December 2022 15:44 (three years ago)

His wiki page is like entering some hideous parallel universe populated entirely by wankers.

Twa pehs an' an ingin ane an' aw (Tom D.), Thursday, 29 December 2022 15:45 (three years ago)

I'm still pissed off from reading it last time after the peterson incident

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 29 December 2022 15:53 (three years ago)

No need to resort to ad hominem.

When you've jumped on the prolonged creepy misogynist bandwagon attack on a teenage girl with a different opinion and can't handle the slightest pushback.

nashwan, Thursday, 29 December 2022 16:00 (three years ago)

The odd thing about 'ad hominem' is that it's a response to OJ calling him the former banjo player of that band - which is, I assume, just factual. Taking it as an insult is his own problem.

the pinefox, Thursday, 29 December 2022 16:02 (three years ago)

it actually is an insult but whose fault is that

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 29 December 2022 16:08 (three years ago)

Owen is a melt and I will defend him to the death because his enemies are bigot scum

Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 December 2022 16:10 (three years ago)

he's a liberal who seems to try to take seriously the putative liberal values his haters claim as their own, which is a noble and foolish endeavour

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 29 December 2022 16:26 (three years ago)

whether does more harm than good by acting as a leftmost limit on mainstream political discourse, or whether he performs an important service by (inadvertently) exposing the hollowness and hatefulness of british liberalism, I'm undecided

your original display name is still visible (Left), Thursday, 29 December 2022 16:32 (three years ago)

I just accept him for who he is and roll my eyes accordingly but he's a lightning rod for the evil

Wyverns and gulls rule my world (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 29 December 2022 16:40 (three years ago)


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