who is worse - Taibbi or Greenwald

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i think it's actually yet another hit at taylor lorenz (who i believe helped popularise "stochastic terrorism" when reporting on LoTT)

he's taking her critique of LoTT (viz "stochastic terrorism" blah blah), and making the (implied) joke that if it's was bad to attack lorenz then it must also bad (and hypocritical) to attack taibbi. that's the structure of his sarcasm anyway.

his position on lorenz is basically that it's fine that she gets attacked by his (and tucker's) orcs, she's a public figure working for corporate media. attacking taibbi isn't bad bcz taibbi finds it stressful or terrifying, it's bad bcz it reveals you as partisan against independnent citizen journalism and a lapdog for the corporate media

it doesn't land bcz (a) he's a terrible writer whose tantrums step on his use of humour and (b) bcz it's very obvious he's chucking literally everything at the wall to gain the hunter dickpic scandal more momentum than it seems to be getting

mark s, Monday, 5 December 2022 20:41 (three years ago)

adding: not quite sure why i'm here analysing jokes that aren't working told by someone i think is a vast toxic idiot never not acting in bad faith

mark s, Monday, 5 December 2022 20:46 (three years ago)

If I don't see more Hunter dick pix tout suite I'm voting Trump in '24.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 5 December 2022 21:00 (three years ago)

Taibbi’s face in that tweet kinda reminds me of Ralph Meeker in Kiss Me Deadly when he’s gleefully slamming an old man’s hand in a desk drawer.

JoeStork, Monday, 5 December 2022 22:08 (three years ago)

also lol when did taibbi last still have even that much hair

it's not the crime it's the cover-up

mark s, Monday, 5 December 2022 22:14 (three years ago)

hold on all this hunter biden laptop stuff is all about photos of someone's penis?

— 🍅 (@turtlekiosk) December 4, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 5 December 2022 22:25 (three years ago)

Touché, turtlekiosk. #onethread

Soda Stereo Total (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 14:20 (three years ago)

You conduct yourself *very* differently when speaking to someone than talking about them on social media. Maybe we all do, but you really do. Feel free to attack me, mock, criticize away: all good.But try not to knowingly distort what I said for cheap, ephemeral Twitter applause.

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) December 6, 2022

mark s, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 15:23 (three years ago)

oh

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 15:24 (three years ago)

Y'all just piss on me, shit on me, spit on my grave
Talk about me, laugh behind my back, but in my face
Y'all some well-wishers, friendly-acting, envy-hiding snakes

“uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 15:27 (three years ago)

greenwald seems genuinely fucked in the head

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 15:29 (three years ago)

hes always been a weird guy but this is verging into blatant delusion

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 15:30 (three years ago)

this is glenn and his misfit clique against the cool kids in the cafeteria

“uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 15:31 (three years ago)

What is GG responding to? Jeet hasn’t tweeted about Glenn in days.

Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 16:06 (three years ago)

I've been blocked by @ggreenwald so can someone ask him what he thinks of this? (And tell him to stop being a coward and unblock me). https://t.co/xG7NBz5ze0

— Jeet Heer (@HeerJeet) December 4, 2022

“uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 16:07 (three years ago)

im blocked by glenn too but can read the embedded tweets on here, bit of a security flaw

lag∞n, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 16:10 (three years ago)

see if you can empty his bitcoin wallet

mark s, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 16:12 (three years ago)

heterodoxxing

mark s, Tuesday, 6 December 2022 16:12 (three years ago)

Greenwald still doesn't understand that posting anything to the internet amounts to hurling it into an infinite distortion field?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 6 December 2022 18:02 (three years ago)

If nothing else, this little episode inspired Greenwald to invent polka dot festooned hate-vectors

pro tip, when you find yourself earnestly posting yarn & thumbtack maps to illustrate the conspiracy against you it’s time for some therapy pic.twitter.com/CwCwN9S0I2

— kilgore trout, death to putiner (@KT_So_It_Goes) December 7, 2022

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:13 (three years ago)

lol hate-vectors

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:14 (three years ago)

i think that's another version of his idea of a joke so i'll just repost what mark s typed cuz it's really otm

it's a bad joke bcz he's a bad writer with a tin ear for parody -- or indeed the meaning of prose generally (his own and anyone else's)

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:16 (three years ago)

glenn sees a joke and then runs it over w/ a bulldozer, backs up over the joke and then runs it over again. it's almost endearing in a way

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:17 (three years ago)

im 0 for 2 catching glenns jokes lol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:17 (three years ago)

congrats to matt

Matt Taibbi's Twitter following has doubled in the last two weeks, from 700k to 1.4 million. 500k of those followers came within 48 hours of his #TwitterFiles threadhttps://t.co/vt4PE1zG9O pic.twitter.com/vueIN3Mjzw

— Anthony DeRosa (@Anthony) December 7, 2022

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:31 (three years ago)

hes getting rich off searching a database for hunter bidens name then tweeting the eyes emoji

lag∞n, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:32 (three years ago)

Truly we live in the Golden Age of Grifters.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:37 (three years ago)

He just just tweet "Tick, Tick, Tick" every few hours

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 18:55 (three years ago)

glenn going pepesilvia.jpg with the chart is something

I don't know what he means "vectors" means

mh, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 20:31 (three years ago)

or what he thinks that means

is it just "these people interact on twitter making fun of us?"

"Source: Online Safety Expect G. Greenwald" is creating more questions than answering questions

mh, Wednesday, 7 December 2022 20:35 (three years ago)

I assumed it was a Covid joke. I've come to expect these try-hard nearly inscrutable jokes from GG.

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Wednesday, 7 December 2022 21:01 (three years ago)

ugh

mh, Thursday, 8 December 2022 16:34 (three years ago)

Here's Matt reaching another stage of the cross, the Ben Shapiro appearance:

Matt Taibbi tells Ben Shapiro that conservativism is appealing to young people because there's no sense of humor on the political left.
He goes on to praise Matt Walsh's transphobic hit piece "What Is A Woman" as a good example of political comedy pic.twitter.com/R6FLplUIaP

— The Serfs (@theserfstv) December 13, 2022

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 16:32 (three years ago)

conservatives are so good at comedy, the laughs just don't come because they're so funny that it overwhelms our senses and we can't laugh

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 16:34 (three years ago)

is there really that much money in aligning yourself with reactionaries

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 16:44 (three years ago)

There’s attention, which some sick individuals enjoy

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 16:48 (three years ago)

Taibbi's follower count doubled over the past few weeks.

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 16:54 (three years ago)

a low end estimate for taibbi's revenue from substack even before the twitter files stuff would put him in the high 6 figures to low 7 figures range. a high end estimate would prob be around like $3m per year? so... yeah

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 December 2022 17:00 (three years ago)

greenwald made a little over $500k at the intercept... low end estimate for him would at least double that income thru substack, he prob makes closer to $2m per year i bet

& none of this is including speaking fees, consulting, books etc whatever other money they can make off themselves

J0rdan S., Tuesday, 13 December 2022 17:03 (three years ago)

thank u i am now more depressed than i was before

flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 17:10 (three years ago)

how many vodka shots had Taibbi had in that screengrab

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 17:25 (three years ago)

I’m not gonna lie, I would love to create a shameless right wing persona that got me paid if I could write professionally and had lecture circuit contacts, with a long-term plan of revealing to my shock and amazement that the entire right wing sucks ferociously and that everyone who follows me should ditch the whole enterprise and become left wing/left-adjacent, but then I remember that I would have to sleep at night plus also the lack of professional writing ability and I realize I’m doing the adult version of recreating the first Star Wars trilogy with two action figures and random toys/household decorations that my parents had when I was a kid

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 18:15 (three years ago)

Have you seen what passes for professional writing on right wing websites?

The Beatles were the first to popularize wokeism (President Keyes), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 18:21 (three years ago)

there are people who make big money pandering to wingnuts but its a competitive field, taibbi greenwald et al had the benefit of being big names, really they couldve done fine staying in their lanes, theyre at least somewhat doing it because they want to

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 18:25 (three years ago)

DJP for comptroller 2024

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 18:26 (three years ago)

The thing is, someone still generated all of that word vomit. I lose interest after like 250 words

castanuts (DJP), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 18:28 (three years ago)

tbh that actually seems like a good use for AI writing: “write 3000 words about how the woke leftists made you realize that Ron Desantis is based,” wait for the Daily Wire checks to come rolling in

JoeStork, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 18:34 (three years ago)

I’m not gonna lie, I would love to create a shameless right wing persona that got me paid if I could write professionally and had lecture circuit contacts, with a long-term plan of revealing to my shock and amazement that the entire right wing sucks ferociously and that everyone who follows me should ditch the whole enterprise and become left wing/left-adjacent, but then I remember that I would have to sleep at night plus also the lack of professional writing ability and I realize I’m doing the adult version of recreating the first Star Wars trilogy with two action figures and random toys/household decorations that my parents had when I was a kid

I've had this dream too. But back in high school I thought it might be cool to start a cult, but then I gradually realized that even if it succeeded, you'd just wind up spending all your time hanging out with people who genuinely believed things that you knew to be rank horseshit you made up for money, and that seems super depressing.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 18:44 (three years ago)

starting a cult, becoming a wingnut influencer are things that seem easy because theyre dumb but actually take a certain kind of demented instinct to make work, check out the right wing d list on twitter, guys with 50k followers trying to grind it out with a podcast newsletter etc hoping to quit their day jobs

lag∞n, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 18:48 (three years ago)

I mean, I would make an excellent undercover cop, but then I’d have to be a cop, and no.

Goose Bigelow, Fowl Gigolo (the table is the table), Wednesday, 14 December 2022 00:42 (three years ago)


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