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if musk and apple do get in a fight about the 30% thing it's going to be a lot of

https://clickhole.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/02/dnmtn4ksijwyep0xmljk.jpg

but it will be worse than that because he'll make the points in such a divisive and ineffective way that he'll strengthen apple's position.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 1 December 2022 17:58 (three years ago)

If I'm Hungry, He's Food

Toast?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 1 December 2022 21:28 (three years ago)

https://www.saturdayeveningpost.com/2018/03/cook-muskrat-wild-dishes-1938/

rob, Thursday, 1 December 2022 22:05 (three years ago)

wow ^

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 1 December 2022 22:07 (three years ago)

I didn't actually read that at all, hope that wasn't a mistake...

rob, Thursday, 1 December 2022 22:08 (three years ago)

I don't know the ins and outs of the severance agreements, but this is a good letter.

So here's the thing. You can only violate people's legal rights and your own word so far before they lawyer up and come after you.

I really do hope Musk changes his mind and does the right thing - the employees deserve that. But it'll be fun as hell if he doesn't. pic.twitter.com/VA04hFDVBX

— Akiva Cohen (@AkivaMCohen) December 2, 2022

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 2 December 2022 03:01 (three years ago)

assuming there is some kind of standing for the employees to enforce an agreement they weren't party to (which it seems like there is from the letter?) then the fact that this can be litigated by dozens of arbitration cases rather than in court(s) or class actions should be pretty lol.

that said, the specific things he's accused of not doing are not going to cost him very much (it's little things like 401k match), so he'll probably just do them and settle.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 December 2022 03:58 (three years ago)

He’s so, so dumb tho

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 2 December 2022 04:12 (three years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fi8mUNhWYAAfFoe?format=jpg&name=medium

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 04:52 (three years ago)

RSU vest acceleration at $54 per share sounds expensive

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 2 December 2022 04:55 (three years ago)

that could be 15% of someone's salary or 500%

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 2 December 2022 04:57 (three years ago)

for engineers 50/50 cash/stock is the mean average, and the mean average cash pay is about 200k/year = 50k/quarter.

so if he owes 3000 engineers a quarter of stock, that's ballpark low hundred millions. they're not all engineers though, so it's probably less than that, maybe high tens of millions. not nothing but not going to be his downfall.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 December 2022 06:21 (three years ago)

sure, but that is more than 401k match. And is the 50/50 mean at $54 or a lower price?

Cinta Kaz is comin' to town (Sufjan Grafton), Friday, 2 December 2022 06:43 (three years ago)

Also kinda depends on what his net worth is by the time the case settles

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 2 December 2022 06:50 (three years ago)

Who is spraying Musk in Kanye's photo? Is it Epstein?

his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Friday, 2 December 2022 08:30 (three years ago)

$54 is the merger price (i.e. the price elon paid for all of twitter's shares) so it makes sense.

imagine the 50/50 split is the average for hires since twitter was a public company, but if you were employee #15 or whatever, you are probably a millionaire many times over, even before the acquisition - same if you were early in the door at any other bigtech company

, Friday, 2 December 2022 11:55 (three years ago)

assuming there is some kind of standing for the employees to enforce an agreement they weren't party to (which it seems like there is from the letter?) then the fact that this can be litigated by dozens of arbitration cases rather than in court(s) or class actions should be pretty lol.

that said, the specific things he's accused of not doing are not going to cost him very much (it's little things like 401k match), so he'll probably just do them and settle.

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, December 1, 2022 10:58 PM (yesterday)

this is the heart of it - the merger agreement specifically disclaims any twitter employee from enforcing the provisions of 6.9 (nice) via 6.9(e) (and 9.7), but the delaware court of chancery is a court of equity, not a court of law, where famously "he who comes into equity must come with clean hands", etc. etc.

is it a winning argument? i have no clue, maybe it feels a little odd that just a month ago the court of chancery was being lauded for holding elon to the letter of the law of the contract but would now be expected to look past the letter of the law of the contract (granted to enforce other parts of the contract that elon is breaching), but in both cases you have a breaching musk, so maybe it's not that weird

, Friday, 2 December 2022 12:25 (three years ago)

addendum: i forgot that this guy on twitter is going to arbitrate these claims, so it's likely not going to end up in the delaware court of chancery. but i'm assuming the arbitrators will be asked to apply delaware law. who knows! i am out of my depth here.

, Friday, 2 December 2022 12:33 (three years ago)

Who is spraying Musk in Kanye's photo? Is it Epstein?

― his cartoon heart expands, then he relaxes by smoking crack (stevie), Friday, December 2, 2022 3:30 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

ari emanuel, dont think kanye was intending it to be incriminating or anything just clowning elon, account got suspended lol

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 12:38 (three years ago)

I opted out of binding arbitration fwiw (always do) but afaik of the 3000+ people he fired on nov 4 they couldn’t find anyone who did.

sure, but that is more than 401k match.

This is true. I don’t think they’ll get much more than 401k match if this actually ends up in arbitration though.

And is the 50/50 mean at $54 or a lower price?

At the time of joining. 54 is probably pretty close to the average joining price weighted by employee though. It was nearly 80 in 2001 when Twitter added like 2000 employees.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 December 2022 12:48 (three years ago)

Big Lincoln project energy from that lawyer though. Hope he’s pro bono.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 2 December 2022 12:51 (three years ago)

wow so much for free speech

Kanye West was suspended from Twitter after he tweeted an image of a swastika inside the Star of David. Elon Musk said the post violated the platform's rule against inciting violence. The tweet was deleted shortly before West's account was shut down. https://t.co/Fq5ADz5YAE

— The New York Times (@nytimes) December 2, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 12:54 (three years ago)

but in both cases you have a breaching musk

thx I will be haunted now by images of a breaching Musk.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 2 December 2022 15:19 (three years ago)

Demand letters can be fun especially when recited as holden caulfield. let a zillion jams arbs be fruitful and multiply lol xp

breaching musk lol

i'm right back on my shit (Hunt3r), Friday, 2 December 2022 15:29 (three years ago)

are the brands coming back yet pic.twitter.com/QXYv97HTjc

— Peter Adams (@PatchAdams03) December 2, 2022

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 15:43 (three years ago)

are ye winnin' 'lon

nashwan, Friday, 2 December 2022 15:51 (three years ago)

So, so disruptive.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 2 December 2022 16:22 (three years ago)

Going according to plan, making sure Nazism is normalized before the 2024 elections really ramp up.

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 2 December 2022 16:22 (three years ago)

tbf i dont think putting nazism front and center is really what you want, nazis have a pretty bad rep, dont see the upside there

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 16:26 (three years ago)

One would think, but the modern day GOP doesn't exactly seem to be rushing to distance themselves from it, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 2 December 2022 16:27 (three years ago)

fwiw many of them are mcconnell just gave a very critical speech alluding to trump meeting with those anti semites, and even for those who arent it doesnt mean its a politically winning proposition it just means that they are either a. themselves fully radicalized or b. have been put in a tough spot where they dont want to alienate their more radical supporters but also have to worry about people who still think nazis are bad getting turned off

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 16:32 (three years ago)

Push back from McConnell et al. boils down to "please don't make me support these Nazis."

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 December 2022 16:36 (three years ago)

They want you to dog whistle Nazi/Hitler support, not full-throated yell it

Nazis have spent the last two decades trying to rebrand themselves as not actually Nazis while still being Nazis

Fash Gordon (Neanderthal), Friday, 2 December 2022 16:37 (three years ago)

even from the pov of the radical right wing project which prob has less of a electoral focus than say the republican party embracing nazism just seems a bridge too far, theres no reason to be specifically a nazi when you can just be a non denominational racist piece of shit, tho its prob an unavoidable byproduct of mainstreaming antisemitism generally

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 16:43 (three years ago)

ari emanuel, dont think kanye was intending it to be incriminating or anything just clowning elon, account got suspended lol

― lag∞n, Friday, December 2, 2022 6:38 AM (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Well, he might have been intending it to be incriminating. Ari Emanuel recently wrote an op-ed headlined "Business silence on Kanye West’s anti-Semitism is not an option," and Kanye called him out on InfoWars.

jaymc, Friday, 2 December 2022 17:30 (three years ago)

ah ok in retrospect i shouldve reflected upon aris jewishness

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 17:31 (three years ago)

#protip

G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 2 December 2022 17:34 (three years ago)

yeah hes been mentioning ari emanuel in a lot of his rants lately, no question he knows its him imo

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Friday, 2 December 2022 17:41 (three years ago)

You know Twitter is being fair when extremists on far right and far left are simultaneously upset!

Twitter aims to serve center 80% of people, who wish to learn, laugh & engage in reasoned debate. ❤️

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) December 2, 2022

Twitter is best when both Nazis and Jews are upset

frogbs, Friday, 2 December 2022 18:43 (three years ago)

both people who want to kill and people who dont want to be killed are mad at me

lag∞n, Friday, 2 December 2022 18:51 (three years ago)

eat, pray, learn, laugh & engage

waste of compute (One Eye Open), Friday, 2 December 2022 19:14 (three years ago)

Just listened to Elon Musk speak for about 2.5 hours on a Twitter space and this is probably the biggest takeaway: https://t.co/fti9al3618

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) December 4, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 4 December 2022 00:55 (three years ago)

oh my god, he brought in weiss

Elon Musk is speaking on a Twitter Space right now about the opening up of the so-called "Twitter Files." He claims he gave unfettered access to emails and documents to Matt Taibbi, Bari Weiss and at least one other person.

— Ryan Mac 🙃 (@RMac18) December 3, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 4 December 2022 00:57 (three years ago)

funny to get opinion writers to make sense of a huge document cache

lag∞n, Sunday, 4 December 2022 01:00 (three years ago)

one of my favorite new searches is tesla investors replying to elon's tweets and begging him to shut up pic.twitter.com/MYh5WmFoDv

— Ashley Feinberg (@ashleyfeinberg) December 4, 2022

lag∞n, Sunday, 4 December 2022 01:27 (three years ago)

lmao bari

mh, Monday, 5 December 2022 04:21 (three years ago)

at least one other person!!!

mh, Monday, 5 December 2022 04:22 (three years ago)

his comment on Assange the other day reminded me he has no attention span, isn’t really tuned into politics, and may think Julian is the name of the trans person living with his ex

mh, Monday, 5 December 2022 04:24 (three years ago)

lmao

lag∞n, Monday, 5 December 2022 04:25 (three years ago)


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