Hate It If We Played It - Qatar World Cup 2022

why are Canada fans cheerng this corner, hve they seen their past corners?

lol case in point

only 5 minutes!

most of Canada's shots have been unlikely from an xg pov. 4 real chances - pen, David when he should have played the square pass, David header ,and the low cross chance just before half time.

letting Belgium have maximum possession with little attempt to pressure them seems like a good strategy with 2 minutes left

Can’t imagine Croatia will let Canada play like that, shame they couldn’t get anything tonight.

stay in qatar https://t.co/bQEDlY3aly

— Don Hughes (@getfiscal) November 23, 2022

jesus can life throw anything worse at nadia nadim? so sorry for her.

Qatari authorities have started banning England fans from wearing crusader costumes in stadiums.

The attire, complete with swords and crosses, are offensive due to crusader history of rape, slaughter and occupation of Arab lands.#Qatar #Eng #FIFAWorldCup pic.twitter.com/BoL6dnZEjz

— Robert Carter (@Bob_cart124) November 23, 2022

good

i demand swiss glasses guy to be in the crowd and found by the cameras

“He’s really done the rounds of European football, Paris St Getmain, Bayern Munich, Stoke City”

I recently saw a rugby fan getting interviewed in the crusader gear and remember thinking it was such a vile phenomenon. I know it's to do with St. George but it's not unlike a German fan dressing up in a Nazi uniform.

These cunts know what they are doing.

Cameroon should really be one up.

Excellent game so far.

barton/oatley wondering when they will see a goal, they've had the 0-0s so far, has been decent tho

xp I don't think many of the crusaders cosplayers would be able to grasp why this is different from Danes dressing up as Vikings or whatever, which is a big part of the problem

i demand swiss glasses guy to be in the crowd and found by the cameras

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i think that was him!!!

I think this about the crusader every time I see it on the front of the Express tbh

I'd forgotten Shaqiri even exists

Had a feeling the Swiss would score. Cameroon squandered a couple of chances in the 1st half.

god help me I kinda love this year's edition of xhaka. some of his simple passes to break the lines are lovely

The guy who was born in Cameroon scores against Cameroon.

Colonialism is wicked.

— . (@Nigerianscamsss) November 24, 2022

switzerland v cool that half. put them away easily.

St George of course famous for wearing Norman 11th century armour

Btw, this is happening in a bit.

“Yo dawg, I heard you like Kims, so we put some Kims on your Kims next to your Kims, dawg.” pic.twitter.com/ZO4inzmHCA

— Shirtless Plantain Show (@theplantainshow) November 24, 2022

really hope cavani comes on and scores. beeb open the show with black pink.

oh danny murphy on co comms dampening my enthusiasm a tad.

Uruguay have been excellent.

Couple of juicy passes from Jimenez.

Were Vikings historically good?

Mixed reports over time but some of them surely killed a lot of people and pillaged many territories. Unsure whether they actually colonised places or were more restless than that.

Probably reasonable to say that a Viking costume could potentially be offensive, if such things offend you.

Orlando City star Facundo Torres on the bench for Uruguay. Be nice if he plays.

Fuck. South Korea should've gone ahead..

Uruguay hit the post. Excellent half

Unsure whether they actually colonised places or were more restless than that.

The British Isles and Ireland would be a pretty different places if not for Vikings!

The vikings took all the hot chicks out of ireland and got lost and founded iceland iirc so mixed bag

Tom D - agree, big influence (Dublin, York, Newcastle come to mind), just don't know enough about what they did with places that they attacked. Despite having read numerous LRB articles on the subject!

re J-Mod, didn't Eric the Red discover America centuries before Columbus? VINELAND as I recall.

Maybe a good rule would be: If you are dressing up in a daft costume from your nation's history to support the sporting team -- make it the costume of a non-violent group which never killed or invaded anyone (monks, scholars, perhaps merchants, or indeed peasants, serfs, farmers; also most women in history, except Bodaceia / Boudicca). I don't think this will catch on, though.

I was more thinking about the image of the crusader being a current - and still potent - symbol of western colonialist oppression in a way that the image of the viking isn't, as far as I'm aware.

was just reading about the eastern Volga Vikings who traded as far as Constantinople and arguably founded Russia (but don't say that in front of Putin)
anyway this is a decent match with two good teams

scholars and merchants are some of the most violent people in history! xps

vikings are definitely symbols of whiteness and fascism these days even though neither of those things existed when they were around

Im being glib xp

I maintain that there's a palpable difference between dressing as a viking and dressing as a crusader when in the middle east

Merchants can reasonably be accused of exporting and practising forms of exploitation.

Scholars - no, I don't see it, not by comparison with other professions.

Even if it is supposed that scholars have supported and legitimated oppression (some have, some haven't), it is rare for them to be physically violent.

That cannot be said of Crusader knights or Viking warriors.

Tim - FWIW - I think your argument must be something like:

People dressed as Vikings can go to places where Vikings committed violence, colonialism and pillage, and it will be "laughed off" because those places (eg: Dublin - unsure where else) are quite prosperous and peaceful and can "look back and laugh" at the Viking violence as irrelevant.

By contrast, people dressed as Crusaders go to the Middle East, and it cannot be "laughed off" because nations in the Middle East remain wracked by violence, neo-colonialism, legacies of colonialism, exploitation, racism, etc -- thus, the legacy of what the Crusaders are doing is still present.

I think this makes sense.

However, my caveat would be that this might vary between places in the Middle east (a region I do not visit). In Iraq, plainly, neo-colonial violence remains recent and present. In Iran, a nation embattled by Western sanctions, perhaps a similar tension would exist. On the other hand - Qatar? Is this a different case, which is basically a small oil-rich nation that has made harmonious terms with the West? So the narrative of violence might no longer be viewed as one to complain about.

Unsure. I know nothing about Qatar except this World Cup and will never go there.

you can tell this game's shit lol

I learned all I need to know about vikings from that documentary on Ragnar Lothbrok

2nd half has been poorer. Fear has been winning.

Uruguay hit the post late on..

I learned it from the Maiden song
https://genius.com/Iron-maiden-invaders-lyrics

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