like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

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according to this graph the arrival of neighbours in the uk coincides with a precipitous drop in usage - in books, not necessarily a reflection of common speech:

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=uni&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=29&smoothing=3

ledge, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 12:09 (three years ago)

I first heard "uni" on Neighbours I think. but I've never heard anyone call university "college". thought that was a US thing.

even the birds in the trees seemed to whisper "get fucked" (bovarism), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 12:10 (three years ago)

i know it wasn't used *around me* when i was at "uni" (79-82) bcz it only started getting my hackles up way later -- i wd have been prickly earlier

but maybe my friends were just like "mark is weird abt this, don't say it round him or he'll post it to that stupid thread"

xp -- i *do* generally call university college but only bcz i don't want to say university or uni lol

mark s, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 12:12 (three years ago)

What horror.

Today a coroner has ruled that 2-year-old Awaab Ishak died as a result of a severe respiratory condition caused due to prolonged exposure to mould in a home environment. Action to treat and prevent the mould was not taken. Awaab Ishak, from Rochdale, died in December 2020. 🧵 pic.twitter.com/tONlin3joR

— Taj Ali (@Taj_Ali1) November 15, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 12:17 (three years ago)

Zac Goldsmith interviewed by (and tries to run away from) 11 year old girl:

https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/zac-goldsmith-cop27-confronted-climate-activist-egypt-b1039877.html

StanM, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 15:05 (three years ago)

UK: closing arts orgs and opera houses.

Europe: this does sound nice.

"If successful, the scheme would be extended and probably rolled out to a wider age group, possibly from the age of 15 upwards."

This is just so brilliant, a new generation of creative people will be nurtured. & cultural institutions supported. A win-win!https://t.co/y4PzLzz1Pa

— Marijam Didžgalvytė (@marijamdid) November 15, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:00 (three years ago)

won't need arts when tourists start flocking in to get an authentic look at what the 1850s were like

Burnt Norton 360 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:02 (three years ago)

according to this graph the arrival of neighbours in the uk coincides with a precipitous drop in usage - in books, not necessarily a reflection of common speech:

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=uni&year_start=1800&year_end=2019&corpus=29&smoothing=3🕸


Don’t think you can judge this in ngrams just by the word uni itself as I have a feeling, eg. uni- might get picked up by it. Here’s the search for “going to uni”, which makes the usage more specific and shows it appearing out of nowhere in the 80s/90s then exploding after 2000. I’m pretty sure it felt like a Neighbours thing when I was a student in the early 90s, along with “don’t be such a dag” etc

Alba, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:05 (three years ago)

Forgot the link

https://books.google.com/ngrams/graph?content=going+to+uni&year_start=1950&year_end=2019&corpus=29&smoothing=3

Alba, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:05 (three years ago)

Did any of the characters in Neighbours actually go to uni though?

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:19 (three years ago)

Can't imagine it was used enough to radically change the vocabulary of young people in the UK at the time.

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:22 (three years ago)

Tom D is correct: university was definitely not a major feature of the programme NEIGHBOURS.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:25 (three years ago)

FWIW Alba's graph corroborates what I posited: the term picks up in late 1990s and gets very big in C21.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:26 (three years ago)

is this a radical change? i would not call it a radical change

mark s, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:26 (three years ago)

toadfish studied law at nearby eden university ppl

http://perfectblend.net/neighbourhood/places-edenuni.htm

mark s, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:35 (three years ago)

I remember Scott Robinson saying it but iirc Jane was the first Australian to graduate.

nashwan, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:37 (three years ago)

jason donovan call him by his name

mark s, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:44 (three years ago)

Mark S: re radical change do you mean: the figures shown on the left of the graph?

I don't know what they refer to. Though I can see that use of the term rises.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 16:55 (three years ago)

no i just meant tom d using the word "radical" to describe students saying uni instead of university but no other changes

mark s, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 17:07 (three years ago)

i imagine the figures on the n-grams are percentages of total usage of all (printed?) words in english, which isn't a wildly clarifying thing to measure against

mark s, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 17:10 (three years ago)

the heterosexual Jason Donavan call him by his full name

Burnt Norton 360 (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 15 November 2022 17:48 (three years ago)

Mike, Aka, Guy Pearce, is the one I remember who was going to "uni"

Chewshabadoo, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 18:55 (three years ago)

It wasn't just Neighbours tho. Some of those Home and Away kids probably went Away to uni. And where do you suppose The Young Doctors got their degrees from?

fetter, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 20:56 (three years ago)

I agree. I feel that this was probably more of a feature of HOME & AWAY than of NEIGHBOURS.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 21:25 (three years ago)

Mike, Aka, Guy Pearce, is the one I remember who was going to "uni"

I think I agree. If you'd asked me (before this thread went down this wormhole) when 'uni' burst onto these shores, I'd have said it was something to do with Mike and Plain Jane Super Brain in the late 80s.

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 21:31 (three years ago)

it looks like "uni" in the UK has outlived neighbours but for how long

conrad, Tuesday, 15 November 2022 22:41 (three years ago)

thank you, Jason & Kylie, for enriching the Q&K’s English!

Especially For Uni
Uni Dream Will Do
Too Many Broken Education Systems In The World
and of course Better The Devil Uni

big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 08:32 (three years ago)

Can't get uni out of my head

Zelda Zonk, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 08:43 (three years ago)

I saw my all time fave early adopter abbreviation on here a few years ago from a US twitter pizza-post someone linked that used the very troubled cut off "za", lol I've been dying to use it irl

calzino, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 09:22 (three years ago)

za is a great word but the opportunity will never arise irl

Burnt Norton 360 (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 09:32 (three years ago)

apart from during scrabble games

calzino, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 09:48 (three years ago)

does calzino like calzone za? (mmm, I've seen it being used online but I agree it doesn't quite work)

StanM, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 09:57 (three years ago)

I like a mexizano

calzino, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 10:01 (three years ago)

DC not keen on ... Stephen Bush.

Clown Prince on unbeatable form, not even the FT's star 'political expert' Stephen 'Truss doesn't care about optics, polls don't matter except at elections' Bush can get close at the moment https://t.co/tFLclmreoY

— Dominic Cummings (@Dominic2306) November 16, 2022

the pinefox, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 10:02 (three years ago)

since first hearing this hot take on the World Service around 50 minutes ago i've seen umpteen liberal war fans repeating it. at least my suicidal ideation doesn't extend to the rest of humanity

Burnt Norton 360 (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 16 November 2022 10:04 (three years ago)

🤯🤯🤯

It should not be controversial to say a population of 8 billion will have a grave impact on the climate | John Vidal https://t.co/nvugW43e3w

— Caroline Lucas (@CarolineLucas) November 15, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 10:33 (three years ago)

Went up #lift109, the new “epic viewing experience” (lift) that rises above #BatterseaPowerStation’s tawdry sprawl. £20 buys 8 mins to look down upon what shouldve been 50% affordable homes: yet developers negotiated just 9%, offsite.
3000 families in Wandsworth await homes.
(⅓) pic.twitter.com/jr0ldF0PeI

— Tim Dunn (@MrTimDunn) November 16, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 10:38 (three years ago)

This doesn't feel true but it's funny.

Soaring buy-to-let mortgage rates mean British landlords will see their profits slump to just £7 a year per property when they remortgage this year

https://t.co/gXxPAgKz5o

— The Telegraph (@Telegraph) November 13, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 10:45 (three years ago)

Going up on lift109 while constantly shaking my head to let everyone know I disagree with it.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 16 November 2022 10:46 (three years ago)

the state of this lot

Kent Tory Councillor Andy Weatherhead. Who could have guessed it? pic.twitter.com/tVTn9aAwaE

— 👑Nullen, Biscuit Overlord. Disinfo Ninja. (@Nullen80) November 16, 2022

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Thursday, 17 November 2022 08:36 (three years ago)

House prices are forecast to go down by 5%, before further interest rate rises. lol.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 November 2022 13:42 (three years ago)

i've only skimmed the autumn statement but it doesn't look any worse than Labour are currently offering? bit awkward

Burnt Norton 360 (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:12 (three years ago)

lol i mean you’re not wrong

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:25 (three years ago)

and Reeves attacking it from the right, god help us all

Burnt Norton 360 (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:28 (three years ago)

hah hah! I daren't even say I find some of it quite reassuring. Oh dear.

calzino, Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:29 (three years ago)

i am literally a little shocked at some of the spending rises - benefits especially

OF COURSE THIS IS NOTHING but Reeves's response basically tells you she wouldn't have offered more

Burnt Norton 360 (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:31 (three years ago)

literally the only policy difference i can think of between the two parties is that Labour has promised to ensure the funding of the BBC in perpetuity and eliminate the charter review process.

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:45 (three years ago)

and the exciting new green energy quango

Burnt Norton 360 (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:47 (three years ago)

Tories have gone 'easy' before the election. They'll go hard if they win.

Guess what Lab will do?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 November 2022 15:51 (three years ago)

Capitalism might be destroyed by people who don't understand how it works.

THIS IS LITERALLY HOW INVESTMENT IN A CAPITALIST ECONOMY WORKS https://t.co/petqimk9mc

— 𝔐𝔞𝔤𝔫𝔢𝔱𝔰 🧲 (@PerthshireMags) November 17, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 17 November 2022 17:00 (three years ago)


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