U.S. Politics, November 2022: “I don’t know, you hear the same things I do”

it's just inchoate anger at and disdain for anything in the society/culture that seems to have passed them by.

perfect example of that: https://www.theguardian.com/music/2022/nov/10/heckler-gets-life-ban-from-royal-opera-house-for-shouting-rubbish-at-child-actor

Words like 'woke' aren't evergreen so DeSantis will have to pivot at some point to the newest threat against cranky old codgers who want to live in a Norman Rockwell calendar

xp god that reminded me of this gem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnQGuyxB01o

I went to watch Gina Carano lift weights and yelled "Albatross!" over and over til she threw a dumbbell at me

Oh and Mike Lindell's at it again:

https://www.instagram.com/p/CkuveTxuIfd/

(Claims Walz stole the MN gov. election from Jensen.)

#thingsiwishihaddone

Lindell's at it again:

he's never not at it

re: DeSantis, he's a popular candidate within Florida, but we also spend a lot of times in swamps and watching people drive in circles for hours, so whoooooooo knows how well it would transfer to the national stage.

The rest of America's feelings about Florida (not good; cf. "Florida Man") are an underappreciated factor here, too. What plays well down there is likely to play very poorly elsewhere precisely because it plays well down there. It's sort of the mirror image of Rudy thinking he could be President because 9/11, while conveniently forgetting how much the rest of the country hates New York and all its leaders, regardless of party.

^ ^ ^

DeSantis has less charm than a crusty (and you know why) gym sock stuffed under a racist mattress.

Exit Neanderthal and Lord Soto, chased by a gator

xpost Now that you mention it, I don't think I've ever seen a mattress that wasn't white. Or at least that wasn't supposed to be white.

conveniently forgetting how much the rest of the country hates New York

Gavin Newsom is similarly deluded - just because people like Pixar & DisneyLand doesn't mean they want a Californian to be president

xpost I've seen grey mattresses recently - maybe at Ikea

Seen plenty of white sheets though.

Exit Neanderthal and Lord Soto, chased by a gator snapping at their rear ends

oh brutha

He ain't gon git me

Gavin Newsom is similarly deluded - just because people like Pixar & DisneyLand doesn't mean they want a Californian to be president

― Andy the Grasshopper

Not a Democratic one, anyway.

How do you know when a Floridian is confused?

Their mouth is moving

Newsom can't win the presidency, he won't even win the nomination, and this photograph is one reason why

Never forget that Kimberly Guilfoyle and her then-husband Gavin Newsom posed on a rug for a Harper's Bazaar story calling them "The New Kennedys." pic.twitter.com/0QxMdNv4Bw

— Ellie Hall (@ellievhall) August 25, 2020

i'm not sure i agree with the argument that desantis wouldn't be accepted by conservatives nationwide. i have no idea what 60% of florida voters see in him, but florida's population is more diverse than most red states and they all seem to have loved what he stands for. pretty creepy, and sounds like something that people here in missouri will eagerly lap up. a strong majority of people here voted for these two guys on purpose
https://i.imgur.com/QeuURvb.jpg

Newsom would have to run in '24 or '28 against the K-Hive. Not happening.

based on his moves in state politics over the past 6-12 months, he thinks it is.

I hope Whitmer runs. I like Pritzker too for a rich guy.

Polis also. Any of them are more electable than Newsom.

(I say that as someone who basically likes Newsom.)

So kimberly guilfoyle was the new Jackie O, love it

Whoever runs needs to carry a hammer to all debates

banking on a desantis faceplant in a national election would seem to be a dangerous strategy, conservatives nationwide loved the guy's refusal to listen to the covid science and his pushback against that terrible wokeness thing. i don't *know* that he would win in a GE, i think trump as an agent of chaos is more likely to chum the water for a certain not-small segment of RW voters, and desantis as a sour-faced agent of GOP order is less appealing. i do think this midterm has made trump look weak tho.

i don't think desantis would faceplant, but i do think he'd have to fight trump the entire time

i want this guy to run. he's 6'8". https://www.michigan.gov/whitmer/ltgov

He managed to get his Department of Health to recommend against mRNA vaccines for people 18-39 by demanding his surgeon general retrofit a study to say they caused heart disease.

That's a bit further along on the COVID denialism/anti-vax train and will appeal to those types of voters

never bet against an opponent that is significantly taller

fetterman/gilchrist 2028

You've got this all wrong, this election made Trump look strong. He proved once again he can single-handedly tank a GOP candidate with just an endorsement.

Trump should be threatening to endorse DeSantis.

conservatives nationwide

Not only are these people not a majority, they're not even a plurality, and the midterms have demonstrated pretty convincingly that a whole lot of Americans are sick of their bullshit.

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there's also, fuckin, ben sasse just peaced out of being a senator to go run the University of Florida system. i don't know much about (anything) the dynamic between public universities and the state, but i won't be shocked if desantis ends up fucking around with the universities with sasse as his toady. that seems like the kind of thing his base would like, to severely damage the public education system by any means necessary. i think sasse's willingness to run into that situation by quitting his elected post so early speaks to the draw of trumpism without trump for a lot of people. a lot of people just want a king

DeSantis has a 'Mom's dicky new boyfriend' vibe

a lot of people just want a king who will protect their privileges, condone their 'soft' racism, punish poor people, and generally provide them with an endless circus but no bread.

Not only are these people not a majority, they're not even a plurality, and the midterms have demonstrated pretty convincingly that a whole lot of Americans are sick of their bullshit.

i agree with that, i think it boils down to getting that "sick of their bullshit" vote out again. i don't necessarily think desantis would or should be favored in an election, he just could have that appeal to the asshole base who would rally around a proper fuckface.

I kinda think if the GOP had a backpedaling, come to jesus moment of softly refuting the more overtly fascist aspects of their platform and nominated another boring plutocrat like Romney, they could probably win the presidency. So thank god that, in lieu of doing any of that, they're all just gonna throw their weight behind an even more divisive (and way less popular) extremist like DeSantis and hope that the untamable frothing beast Trump gets in line and doesn't undermine them at every turn (even though he's consistently demonstrated steadfast resistance towards doing anything that didn't benefit him personally but hey why start acknowledging observable reality now).

there is no way he will ever stop attacking whoever comes after him. the question will be how long his crowd sticks with him, and i am inclined to believe that he will have a pretty large core that will never go away

My sister is a fan of Trump but also likes DeSantis. She’d vote for either. :-///

xpost For sure, after all, we live in a world were a non-zero number of people are convinced JFK, Jr. is coming back to save us, and also pedophiles and blood and Guantanamo and pizza and stuff.

Also, Obama being the obvious outlier, low-info voters (read: a lot of voters) vote for a president whose name they're intimately familiar with. A Bush! A Clinton! A Trump! Biden, I don't pay attention to news or current events so I don't know who he is exactly but I sure have heard his name for a lot of years! DeSantis??? Do you mean Santa Claus? Because I would vote for him, no question!

Is he running?

xpost yeah, I hear that 'Trump without the baggage' thing about DeSantis, but he's also without the humor/folksiness/bewildered 'charm' of Trump

Trump can connect with a crowd, DeSantis just scowls at everyone

i'm looking into desantis' height. sources are very patchy but he might not be tall enough for the job

Need a president with a catchy last name like Booty