here's me for now
https://ravenation.club/@Moodles
I've been able to follow a few people, but I can't see most users on other servers. There were a bunch of you that I tried to add but couldn't find in the lookup. I'd like to be able to look at who other people follow regardless of server. Is there a way to do this or do I have to hop around from server to server looking for people?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 7 November 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link
this feels a bit like Quantum Leap where you leap from century to century
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 November 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link
it's perplexing to me because 3/4 of the people I'm following are on different servers, so clearly that is possible, but then I can't add or see certain other people, so there appears to be some limits.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 7 November 2022 14:49 (one year ago) link
ok, seems to work better when I include someone's server in the search, although search is just generally working better on the android app than in the browser. One big problem seems to be that a lot of people are on @mastodon.online, and that particular server seems to be fucked, I just can't access it at all
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 7 November 2022 15:00 (one year ago) link
moodles try clicking e.g. on my profile and look thru my follows and followers -- some i expect will be hidden since some servers are delinked from others but others u shd just be able to follow there and then via the + sign? anyway u will recognise some ppl there
mastodon online is probably experiencing a surge r/n
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 15:55 (one year ago) link
Yeah I can't see anyone you are following lol.
― xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 November 2022 16:09 (one year ago) link
try "browse more on the original profile" (it updates quicker but doesn't have a + sign so you have to click thru to each one)
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 16:12 (one year ago) link
I found this works best in a browser, on my PC in Chrome I right-click their user name and select open in new tab. Doesn't work so well to follow the link in the main tab.
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 7 November 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link
it has real caractacus potts breakfast-making machine vibes, all gimcrack machinery clicking whirring and stiffly and jerkily undertaking its tasks in the background
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 16:34 (one year ago) link
eventually the boiled egg rolls down onto yr plate or the floor
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link
So here's a tip -- if you install this app on Twitter to review your account:
https://pruvisto.org/debirdify/
You can check who you're following and see if they have a Mastodon account based on their own settings. Was able to find a slew of people that way. (I grant you might be leery of third-party apps on Twitter at this point but this seemed like the easiest blunt force method and I'll likely uninstall it now that I've used it.)
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 November 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link
this is very helpful!
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 7 November 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link
This entire thread should be posted to the backward tech innovations thread.
― sometimes you have to drink to kill the paranoia (PBKR), Monday, 7 November 2022 17:52 (one year ago) link
I'm so confused.
I seem to have signed up for something Irish? mastodon.ie?
Talk to me like I'm a child: Is there one of these servers where everyone is going so that it can be a free-for-all like Twitter and not everyone grouped into chosen silos? Or is it actually *good* to have to choose a silo for a reason I don't understand?
― alpine static, Monday, 7 November 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link
Also, can I change servers if I want to? And keep my username?
― alpine static, Monday, 7 November 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link
Every "let me explain Mastodon" tweet just leaves me more confused and less interested in trying it out.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 7 November 2022 18:21 (one year ago) link
it turns out it does not matter which server you use to sign up.
― akm, Monday, 7 November 2022 18:31 (one year ago) link
discoverability of other accounts is hard though if you are not on a bigger server, I guess. you basically need to know the name of an account you want to follow.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0),
what if Ezra Klein wrote an explainer
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 November 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link
xp
my workaround for this is looking at who other people are following
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 7 November 2022 18:38 (one year ago) link
It's easy to get lost in the whole decentralized/fediverse rhetoric and there are certain unavoidable elements that do result from that but from dipping my toes in the water on Friday at this point I have a slew of familiar names in my feed and because it's not an overwhelming crush of posts and reblogs (yet, obv.) I can treat it as less of a firehose, and the basic functionality is that of Twitter. *shrug* Works for me? My FB presence is private and I can have more general rambly discussions there, same with IG in terms of the low key use I have for it, so this addresses that aspect of things and allows me to post shorter public thoughts instead of in the venue I was using up until now.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 November 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link
Searching for hashtags and things seems to not work , or there really are not many people using this
I do find I can locate people now if I have their full address. Hard to knwo what is a shortcoming of mastodon and what is just broken at the moment
― | (Latham Green), Monday, 7 November 2022 18:54 (one year ago) link
lol this thread is more siloed than mastodon
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link
yeah, there are degrees of social media experiences:
ilxor/message boards- for like-minded enthusiasts to enthuse and fight
Facebook-- place to post photos and explain your jokes to your relatives
Twitter-- place to watch a bunch of famous and non-famous people embarrass themselves in front of millions
Mastodon-- who knows? Seems somewhere between message board and Facebook at this point, but in the future could be cool kid twitter or cool kid Parler
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Monday, 7 November 2022 19:20 (one year ago) link
maybe mastodon will just be something to add and keep the rest until our cup runneth over with social media
― | (Latham Green), Monday, 7 November 2022 19:24 (one year ago) link
mastodon is where we can practice playing nice so we get the respite to be more horrible everywhere else
― mark s, Monday, 7 November 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link
Very pro this kind of thing on principle as the original reason I had for checking out of twitter a few years ago was visceral disgust over whatever tiny role I'd played as a longtime user (since the SMS days!) in building up the heft of this thing to the point where it was an appealing lever for people looking to (for example) commit securities fraud or incite a nuclear conflict. Granted, that's just a particularly absurd synecdoche for the broader gnarl of modernity but at least in this case I felt like I could make a choice to opt out.
In practice I'd be really surprised if mastodon represents a stable/viable paradigm. I'm getting the vibe that it's stuck in an awkward middle ground between the goal of delivering something that looks/feels/acts like a familiar web 2.0 platform and the logistical realities of a ton of different people maintaining infrastructure on an ad hoc basis.
But it's worth a good faith effort and we'll have some laughs regardless of how it shakes out: https://mastodon.sdf.org@catniptwinz
― New York Review of Wooks (swim), Monday, 7 November 2022 19:47 (one year ago) link
Btw was never on sdf but was delighted to see that they had a mastodon instance.
― New York Review of Wooks (swim), Monday, 7 November 2022 19:49 (one year ago) link
The reason I never used twitter was because it was a "here have all the posts in the world mauahahaha" sort of firehose as Ned says. It was just too bloody much, and I have less than 100 followers/following. But they all retweet endlessly, so I see everything except the people I actually hear from?
But then I realise that, unlike 10 years or more ago, I Do Not Care to blather on about my life to an unseen online audience anymore. So I dunno what the point of any of this is now uuuughhhh *drowns self*.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 7 November 2022 22:09 (one year ago) link
Well you could create an account, construct a feed of those you want to read and not post otherwise. No reason it can't be used that way!
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 November 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link
followed ya moodles
there's kind of a giddy excitement that's not unrelated to how drab the experience is at first. oh how cool! I'm seeing posts from one person I know, and literally nobody else! ~no static at all~
― J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Monday, 7 November 2022 22:25 (one year ago) link
fantastic, I may just post someday
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 7 November 2022 22:27 (one year ago) link
this isn't so bad. seems to be working for the most part. https://ravenation.club/@manthonyslc
― ꙮ (map), Monday, 7 November 2022 22:43 (one year ago) link
ahhh fuggit.
https://masthead.social/@trayce
Went for the journo/writers/bloggers instance - it has loads of ppl, is accepting signups and is the kinda ppl I'd likely want to see.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 7 November 2022 23:41 (one year ago) link
i'm getting the impression that ravenation.club was started by louis tomlinson?
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 00:09 (one year ago) link
watching federated is like staring at oncoming traffic on the freeway
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link
some euro thing called #fotomontag is fun, also #catsofmastodon
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 00:15 (one year ago) link
Are different instances faster/slower? I notice a couple of you are on ravenation and that seems to take forverrrrrr to load up?
Also my apologies but I dont know who Catnip Twinz is haha sorry man :(
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 01:06 (one year ago) link
I haven't noticed any slowness, but it could have to do with your location vs the location of the server?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 01:27 (one year ago) link
Maybe yeah.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 01:45 (one year ago) link
I think I'm just gonna stick with ilx and the Instagram account I check once a week
― Paul Ponzi, Tuesday, 8 November 2022 01:48 (one year ago) link
ravenation was being really slow for me there for a while
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 01:52 (one year ago) link
xp All good, no worries
― New York Review of Wooks (swim), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:01 (one year ago) link
captnip twinz seems like an interesting person and i welcome their presence in my feed.
mastodon is an apt name for this because it's slow like the ice age !! haha
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:04 (one year ago) link
@catnip: I dont mean I wont follow you! I just dont recognise your handle, are you an ILM person or have u changed handles and I'm just slow.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:08 (one year ago) link
ravenation.club heating da fuq up
Camila_CabelloCamila Cabello :verified: @Camila_Cabello
When I was in high school I loved doing group work.
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:19 (one year ago) link
Harry Styles :verified: @Harry__Styles
The awkward moment when i reply to a fake @Louis_Tomlinson Haha!
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:20 (one year ago) link
of course i know these are fake.
reader: for a minute he thought they were real.
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:22 (one year ago) link
xxp Ha okay, sorry for any confusion.
Longtime ILM reader, brief stint posting last year when I thought 'if I value "olde internet" spaces like this (hopefully not an objectionable characterization?) I should probably participate more in the interest of keeping them going' before a new job unexpectedly burned up every last shred of mental energy that I had for participating in this or anything else and I dropped back off the face of the earth for a minute. Not at all someone you "should recognize" in a Cheers sense!
Like (I imagine) everyone else in this thread I'm trying to get my head around Mastodon, have been following people thinking "oh yeah I remember Twitter circa 2007; you just had to follow a bunch of people who were probably going to be fun to talk about records with and let things take their course from there". After a few follows, thought "I should probably say hi in the thread too, so people know what's up."
Anyway, feel free to follow or not; I have no idea whether I'll be all that engaged with Mastodon or in what way, and I absolutely 1000% get being like "don't know who this is, not worth it" in response to a follow request on the internet of 2022.
― New York Review of Wooks (swim), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:43 (one year ago) link
sort of feel like it makes a difference what server you join. like i could enjoy watching the 'local' feed if it wasn't a bunch of louis tomlinson fans posting about how the louis tomlinson account is fake??
i hope some high value twitter people start using it. though maybe it's more interesting as a 'start fresh' kind of deal and see where it goes, maybe nowhere, maybe something small and interesting.
the thing that will keep me coming back for a while is that it's open source and not for profit, that is naturally appealing to me even if it keeps the content limited and quiet.
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 8 November 2022 02:52 (one year ago) link