ANDOR aka Glum Village : its own thread

i love the way gough does that snarly-sneer at cyril while putting him in his place, she’s so awesome

and the sound editing when they from bix screaming into the drill in the prison workroom was ~chef’s kiss~ so good

cannot say how much i love the actress playing cyril’s mum, more insidious and unsettling than the manipulative-mum-stock-standard - even her tone is somewhat surprising.

great episode

*when they CUT from bix

How long is the series. I assumed it would be either 8 or 10 episodes judging from other things. So is the next one season finale and filled with cliffhangers or are things working up to a temporary at least denouement.
We do know the eventual end anyway already unless that had a miraculous intercession or something.

12 eps for this season

and according to imdb, 12 episodes for the next :)

you're telling me I might have to work with CRIMINALS?!

the entire scene of Mon Mothma giving an impassioned speech only for someone to cut the mic of anyone agreeing with her followed by her continued reticence was some good character development (or lack thereof)

can't believe the Empire plays people the Tim Treadwell tapes from Grizzly Man--didn't Werner Herzog remind us to never listen to the tapes

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Meero is just the best. So believably compromised and desperate. Her expressions are a tour de force at times, just a flicker here and there which hint at what’s hidden.

She's great. Took a while to realize where I'd seen her, she had a small but good role in Under the Banner of Heaven. Very different show than Andor.

how is meero “compromised”? am i forgetting something? in many ways she seems like a successful version of syril - a true believer

Idk how she literally makes one muscle in her cheek twitch when she’s pissed at Syril but it was masterful.

Yeah that was an astounding moment.

i guess the show is called Andor so this can’t happen but it would be so sick if the show just continued right up to the events at the climax of Star Wars ep IV but from the non-Skywalker point of view

xxp Tracer I meant compromised as a human being

I have wondered if Jyn Erso will show up at some point. Maybe we can learn why she was arrested.

I recently rewatched ROGUE ONE from my enthusiasm for this show, and man she is bad for 70-80% of her screen time. The “Stardust” thing made me groan out loud a few times.

matkkkk gotcha

cosine rogue one cringe factor

ha rogue one is probably my fav star wars

i've love to see her again! i thought she was perfect "Star Wars"-typing

I’d be interested to see her in the lowkey gritty vibe of this show. There were flashes of excellence in RO but a much higher cheese quotient than here. (I will admit I loved the robot snark tho.)

RO is such a comfort movie for me at this point. Possibly the Star War I rewatch the most.

There is a lot to enjoy, the settings and the world building are gorgeous and it’s mercifully low on fan service.

the last hour is amazing

feel like I’m saying this every week but… it’s another incredible episode

Stellan Skarsgard and Andy Serkis. That is all.

This. Fucking. Show.

AAAHHHHHH!!

holy hell. television, eh?

that was just incredible. that was the most thrilling hour of SF i can remember having watched in a good long time. as good as the best expanse episodes. better? mon mothma looks fly as hell in her meeting with Dirk Skelton or whatever the “gentleman thug” financier guy’s name is. he lives up to his billing by the way. they really teased him last episode. would it suit me if he chewed the scenery a bit more? it would. it’s just a whiff of menace and violence to him rather than the whole bottle but it’s delicious nonetheless

the class and labor politics of this show are right out in plain sight and it’s fuckin rad!! the whole prison break was just.. i mean the heist was alright but this was next level in terms of ratcheting up the intensity. so many things came together. watching serkis come around is so gratifying. and hey even dave matthews lookin motherfucker gets to shoot a few guards. andor and serkis’ invasion of the central sanctum of the empire prison control room tense as fuuuuck. (absolutely incredible art direction for the on that btw). and you know what? a lot of dudes died. like a lot of dudes. it’s a massacre.

finally clocked that this is where the rebels get their colors?!?? this is why they wear orange and white in a new hope!! this prison break has to be one of the foundational events of the rebellion. they’re like “we are all those prisoners.” “if we can fight half as hard as we’ve been working we’ll be out in no time”

“axis” lookin like darth vader, talking about using the tools of the empire to defeat them, the ends justifying the means - the “dark side” one might say

fuckin a!

the choice that the banker offers mon mothma echoes the kind of choices skarsgard is talking about in his speech to the spy - and i think mothma’s so shaken up by it because she realises that there’s a version of her who makes that deal

The moment from Rogue One, which didn’t do a great job of selling the schism between those who already accepted that open, bloody rebellion was necessary and those that were still vacillating, had to be the departure of Admiral Raddus

An entire earlier scene where they were diplomatically debating whether they’d do this Scarif mission or if it was too much of a risk. Then, the rogues send a signal that they’ve got the goods and they’re stuck. I think it was Mon Mothma who was like “oh, we have to get word to Admiral Raddus!” and some is like, ma’am, Raddus left five minutes ago after we got the call

I was half expecting Skarsgard to reveal he's a sith lord, it's possible this may yet happen.

he does not speak in absolutes

Great but I don’t think it matches the expanse at its best if I have to compare. Luckily I can have them both!

i think mothma’s so shaken up by it because she realises that there’s a version of her who makes that deal

I think she still might? perhaps it’s why we don’t see her family again in other stories

I was wondering earlier if her daughter might be an Imperial spy, given the way she seemed to randomly show up in the middle of Mothma’s conversations with Tay, but maybe it was just setting up this subplot

i also rewatched Rogue One because of this show and am enjoying the callbacks and parallels

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— Phillip✨// ANDOR ERA🤞🏾(RIP Westworld😩) (@thegreattwig25) November 9, 2022

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omg great ep!!
also ahhh that final speech was so dope!
that was some tears in the rain shit. skarsgard killed that delivery ugh i love it.

Yeah the whole episode but Jesus H that scene. I was literally leaning forward for it. I even said out loud that might be the best scene as such in the past thirty years of everything/anything Star Wars and I might well stand by that.

my favorite thing about this show is that it doesn't just depict a violent rebellion. it advocates for violent rebellion.

and the "espionage will corrode your soul" b story was pretty good this week. not le carre good, but pretty good!

just an insane episode of tv. it takes in everything from that instantly legendary speech of luthen’s (in the most star wars-y, windswept, gantry shaft setting imaginable??) to the hoity toity doings of coruscant to the question of how long it will take to saw through a pipe

"Power doesn't panic"

that beautiful shot from above of the prisoners swimming away from the jailhouse that just happens to be shaped like the empire insignia

the three moons rising right after luthen's "I burn my life to make a sunrise that I know I'll never see"

the unimaginableness of freedom - when the other prisoners are told they’re free, that they should come and join and use what they can they don’t immediately do it, they’re wary, confused, can’t process it

And let's not forget "Can't swim" 💔

oh i mean.. just fucking perfect. his journey. the tragedy of it. but the success of it too. "the way i look at it, i'm already dead". andor has the fire. he finally fires up kino, but it's a process. it's more than just one moment of decision. that's the way with this show. things take a long time. the rebellion is a long fucking march. so many sacrifices. so many stories swallowed up in the larger violence. you have to stick with it. the water pipe. turning kino. andor's with him every step of the way. until that point.

i mean i know fanboys are gushing about this show all over twitter etc but fuck it, it's deserved this time

I just watched Rogue One for the second time--I never re-watched it after the first time because I don't like things that make me feel bad/sad but I had completely forgotten how good it is. Damn. It interlocks so well with Andor and makes me understand way more than I did before.

he finally fires up kino, but it's a process. it's more than just one moment of decision

Yessss, the long strategic process is telegraphed so well. Like one step is convincing Kino that no one is listening, that they're safe to communicate, breaking the hold of terror of the overseers. And the jailers unknowingly provide another step by fucking with peoples' "days remaining" because once that faint hope is gone, the prisoners have nothing to lose.

Tbh I thought the prison was in space, I've been reading a couple of books lately about prison worlds and I forgot they could get out of the jail onto a planet lol.

It wasn't entirely clear where it was or what they'd be able to do once they got to the top!

you don't know the half of it. throw in movies, books, etc.

anyway just general thread perusal when it pops up. If there's any chance of me seeing something, I try my best to avoid plot spoilers, but the presence of droids or whatever, I don't consider that a spoiler. I don't think I know any more about this show than what it is generally about.

and we’re all the richer for it

One of the little bits of performance that really helped solidify how much I liked the show was near the end of S2, when you have the comms tech trying to hack thru some encryption and it is very very obvious that she’s both enjoying it and has respect for whoever put it together. When prompted, she eagerly starts going into a little too detail about it with a smile and her supervisor flashes her a quick look of “Christ, don’t go into this _now_” which makes her shut up immediately.

Just nice little moments.

ok! final batch. again, rip the imperial ginger lonnie jung. bad on dedra for having such bad opsec she let her lonnie steal her gmail password. surprised that luthen/kleya didn't have a better way to burn the evidence. like obviously they know how to set up remote detonation devices, shouldn't the shop have been set up with bombs and a dead man's switch or something? speaking of opsec, i like the breakdown of it - all these final meetings in public places, plenty of curious ears around. again i feel the 3 episode format pushing up against its constraints - would have been nice to get more of luthen/kleya's backstory than the 10 minutes or so that was crammed into the backhalf. i know it's meant to be poignant that kleya ends up cutting off the life support of her adopted father but i needed time to digest all that.

final two episodes, i dunno, pretty perfunctory! everybody is getting so handsy with dedra! did not enjoy that. i wonder who gave the death star files to her?

final bits and bobs:
-so what was the significance of stealing the experimental TIE?
-in the alternate universe where we got five seasons of andor, would have liked to see yavin's evolution from band of squabbling gorillas -> competent rebel base. instead it just sort of happens
-not sure what to make of wilmon's arc, saw initiates him into the pleasures of rhydo and then what?
-speaking of rhydo, i dove right into rogue one afterwards and the implication is that saw is huffing rhydo in the rogue one scenes, right?
-re: kingfish's post, i really liked the isb guy who was sent to arrest partagaz's reaction to partagaz shooting himself - the little upturned hand to let the stormtroopers know it was ok. also lol that of the careerists it's this guy who ends up surviving everything.
-what adventures await cassian and bix's child? "sister...so you have a twin sister." adding to the list of hidden star wars siblings
-poor dedra, sent to the camps!

oh yeah i think i'd really enjoy a mandalorian style show with luthen and young kleya

Or maybe Gilroy just values human actor's faces.

― Alba, Saturday, May 17, 2025 5:02 AM (six months ago)

i mean yeah, this is why cassian never wears the tie pilot helmet, or why the ISB swat team goes in helmet-less, so we can see the faces of these absolute units of imperial troops. specially that guy with the stache.

oh yeah k-2so fantastic as always. although in rogue one, one of the security droids gets one-shotted by jyn and i'm like, how come that didn't happen on ghorman? sorry, nerd thoughts!

lol mh & VG xps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6HLS_SQbWR4

(2hr YouTube essay, "A special thank you to Mike Duncan, whose Revolutions Podcast was an invaluable resource in my research process.")

ooooh

sorry i linked that video without watching it. i watched it. it's quite good.

Good interview with Gilroy (which has nothing to do with whether or not I have seen the show yet!!!):

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-features/andor-creator-tony-gilroy-gives-the-interview-1236510166/

yeah that’s a good one! i can’t wait for whatever he does next.