it's the only social network that gets mentioned regularly on TV news. seems like denial to say it's not "important". it's probably becoming less important.
How important is TV news?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Friday, 28 October 2022 17:09 (three years ago)
definitely important, for all the reasons stated. it’s interesting it has such importance with so little regulation. in other areas i’d say regulation was slow in catching up, on the comms (not the data) side im not so sure. feels like the publisher/platform difficulty is a genuinely problematic area.
― Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:10 (three years ago)
that was an xpost rather than a response to the tv news point!
it's subject to local laws too. i don't know much about DSA but it seems like it should be on his radar.
👋 @elonmusk In Europe, the bird will fly by our 🇪🇺 rules.#DSA https://t.co/95W3qzYsal— Thierry Breton (@ThierryBreton) October 28, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 28 October 2022 17:11 (three years ago)
my instinct rn is that unless musk rly fucks up the high profile users and many others won’t go anywhere.
― Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:11 (three years ago)
yeah europe def has the capacity to hamstring the business model - just look at GDPR.
― Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:12 (three years ago)
seems like section 230 tbh (but unlikely to be repealed, unlike 230) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Services_Act#New_obligations_on_platform_companies
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 28 October 2022 17:12 (three years ago)
maybe they start making subtwitters to cater to niches - ie. /garfield
― | (Latham Green), Friday, 28 October 2022 17:13 (three years ago)
― barry sito (gyac), Friday, 28 October 2022 17:15 (three years ago)
Twitter has largely replaced PR firm press releases... I remember Whoopie Goldberg eulogizing Lou Reed on twitter (!) rather than quietly sending flowers to his widow.. in that respect, it's dirt cheap and purely performative
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:16 (three years ago)
Oh lol at my half thought fucking up the quote anyway YOU GET WHAT I MEAN
― barry sito (gyac), Friday, 28 October 2022 17:16 (three years ago)
i do and it’s absolutely right. things don’t change v much until they do very rapidly.
― Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:18 (three years ago)
― Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:21 (three years ago)
lol i have been trying all day to get hold of a large publisher's publicity dept (via phone, via email and via twitter) and none of these avenues work
i blame elon musk
― mark s, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:22 (three years ago)
lol ok maybe just add twitter to the ways people won’t respond to you.
― Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:27 (three years ago)
:(
― mark s, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:29 (three years ago)
no not that face! not you personally! i just mean channels of non-communication from businesses and people.
― Fizzles, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:32 (three years ago)
it is true advertisers are very picky about this stuff
― lag∞n, Friday, October 28, 2022 12:01 PM (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
how many advertisers still run ads on Tucker's show? its the most watched thing on cable news but I know for a while it was nothing but ads for reverse mortgages and My Pillow
― frogbs, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:54 (three years ago)
yeah the ads across fox news are all over priced gold coins and reverse mortgages lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:56 (three years ago)
fwiw even with the efforts of the previous regime twitter still made less money per user than the other comparable sites because of the problem of being a bit of a hell hole
― lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 17:58 (three years ago)
That Verge piece linked about goes into it well.
otm. once I found time to read it, it felt like the author accurately puts his finger upon the many constraints Twitter faces and how little Musk can do about them without ruining Twitter even worse and fucking himself out of billions of dollars. def worth a read.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 28 October 2022 18:17 (three years ago)
the most muskian playbook here, considering his history with tesla, would be to manipulate the media into inflating twitters valuation, gonna be a lot harder than just saying full self driving is a year away every year tho
cut costs introduce some new features juice the numbers then take it public with the hope that the fanboys will buy it up
― lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 18:32 (three years ago)
what happens when twitter bursts into flames
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 October 2022 18:39 (three years ago)
🙏🙏🙏
Congratulations to @elonmusk Maybe now I can get @verified pic.twitter.com/nlij2dPnnr— O.J. Simpson (@TheRealOJ32) October 28, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 28 October 2022 18:53 (three years ago)
what a lovely welcome
Evidence suggests that bad actors are trying to test the limits on @Twitter. Several posts on 4chan encourage users to amplify derogatory slurs. For example, over the last 12 hours, the use of the n-word has increased nearly 500% from the previous average. pic.twitter.com/mEqziaWuMF— Network Contagion Research Institute (@ncri_io) October 28, 2022
― lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 19:05 (three years ago)
I reported someone for the usual shit and had a message saying they’d nuked the account within about an hour, which is as good as unheard of. They’ve obvs been ready for such an onslaught.
― piscesx, Friday, 28 October 2022 19:26 (three years ago)
Dropping mad N-words to welcome Trump back into the fold
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 October 2022 19:37 (three years ago)
Hey @elonmusk - you now have the power to bring back Vine. Seriously. Vine ruled AND it'll be a TikTok killer. #BringBackVine— Noam Blum (@neontaster) October 28, 2022
I had forgotten Twitter was the company that bought and shut down Vine.
― o. nate, Friday, 28 October 2022 19:38 (three years ago)
Vines problem was the videos were too short for the brain to comprehend imo
but many vines live on - on tiktoksweet vine of grapes
― | (Latham Green), Friday, 28 October 2022 19:39 (three years ago)
vine was too good for this world
― lag∞n, Friday, 28 October 2022 19:40 (three years ago)
SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Elon Musk says no banned Twitter accounts will be restored before a review by new "content moderation council."— philip lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) October 28, 2022
I reported someone for the usual shit and had a message saying they’d nuked the account within about an hour, which is as good as unheard of. They’ve obvs been ready for such an onslaught.― piscesx, Friday, October 28, 2022 3:26 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― piscesx, Friday, October 28, 2022 3:26 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
their policies and their implementation of those policies is not perfect, but it's pretty good, and a lot better than it was 3-4 years ago. unfortunately the person responsible for that was fired yesterday.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 28 October 2022 19:41 (three years ago)
Elon Musk says no banned Twitter accounts will be restored before a review by new "content moderation council."
https://cinema1544.files.wordpress.com/2014/06/bill-and-ted-future-dudes.jpg?w=1020&h=446
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 28 October 2022 20:11 (three years ago)
I have noticed that every trending topic I've seen today is some right wing bullshit. I'm assuming it's conservatives feeling themselves about now.
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Friday, 28 October 2022 20:18 (three years ago)
i find this facebook tankie extremely annoying, but this seems obviously true?
I think @elonmusk has made a huge mistake, making himself the global face of content moderation at a critical moment of struggle with governments, while maintaining massive personal exposure to challenging countries.— Alex Stamos (@alexstamos) October 28, 2022
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 28 October 2022 21:31 (three years ago)
I guess General Motors has already begun cancelling advertising..?
I know another car company that can take up the slack!
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 28 October 2022 22:20 (three years ago)
_people on Twitter vastly overrate Twitter's actual importance_Ha.. In MAU's (monthly active users), it's below platforms I've never even heard of.. it's even below Pinterest!1. Facebook — 2.9 billion MAUs2. YouTube — 2.2 billion MAUs3. WhatsApp — 2 billion MAUs4. Instagram — 2 billion MAUs5. Facebook Messenger — 1.3 billion MAUs6. WeChat — 1.26 billion MAUs7. TikTok — 1 billion MAUs8. Sina Weibo — 573 million MAUs9. QQ — 538.91 million MAUs10. Telegram — 550 million MAUs11. Snapchat — 538 million MAUs12. Kuaishou — 519.8 million MAUs13. Qzone — 517 million MAUs14. Pinterest — 444 million MAUs15. Twitter — 436 million MAUs
― big movers, hot steppers + long shaker intros (breastcrawl), Friday, 28 October 2022 23:11 (three years ago)
https://y.yarn.co/3b2e88cd-9b12-479a-9f9a-ad38603d1e77_text.gif
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Friday, 28 October 2022 23:18 (three years ago)
my suggested topics are always useless garbage - oh you follow AOC and Ilhan Omar, you definitely want to see every attempt at a fascist hashtag!
― papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 28 October 2022 23:29 (three years ago)
Ed Zitron:
In short, Musk bought a company with a product that’s somewhat difficult to describe for reasons he has had a great deal of trouble elucidating. He didn’t want Twitter, he wanted to prove he could buy it, and he wanted everybody to think it was cool, which they did not. He has spent $44 billion in an attempt to make people love him only to be left with a very expensive way to make people angry at him every single day for the rest of his life.
https://ez.substack.com/p/the-death-of-the-boy-genius
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Saturday, 29 October 2022 00:19 (three years ago)
what a fn dickhole
Here it is: Twitter engineers were told today to *print out* their last 30 to 60 days of code, so they could show it to Elon Musk himself. Then they were told wait, no, actually, please shred all that code you just printed out.Subscribe to read ➡️https://t.co/ad9XTdVQhJ pic.twitter.com/sbO8tD8hGN— Casey Newton (@CaseyNewton) October 28, 2022
― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 October 2022 00:31 (three years ago)
learn to shred
― maf you one two (maffew12), Saturday, 29 October 2022 00:36 (three years ago)
Here are some examples: you can write as many polite letters to advertisers as you want, but you cannot reasonably expect to collect any meaningful advertising revenue if you do not promise those advertisers “brand safety.” That means you have to ban racism, sexism, transphobia, and all kinds of other speech that is totally legal in the United States but reveals people to be total assholes. So you can make all the promises about “free speech” you want, but the dull reality is that you still have to ban a bunch of legal speech if you want to make money. And when you start doing that, your creepy new right-wing fanboys are going to viciously turn on you, just like they turn on every other social network that realizes the same essential truth.
https://www.theverge.com/2022/10/28/23428132/elon-musk-twitter-acquisition-problems-speech-moderation
― death generator (lukas), Saturday, 29 October 2022 00:53 (three years ago)
This isn’t the worst strategy to find terrible engineering managers and Twitter is supposedly filled with terrible engineering managers.
― Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 29 October 2022 02:34 (three years ago)
Without personal knowledge of Twitter infrastructure, I’d bet Musk is right that it’s a mess and over-staffed. Do I think he can fix that? Nope!
Wiki Foundation, for reference, spends about 100m annually.
― Allen (etaeoe), Saturday, 29 October 2022 02:37 (three years ago)
Musk doesn’t even know how to read code, as has been shown repeatedly.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 29 October 2022 02:47 (three years ago)
Like, he’s had to have people walk him through installing and running stuff off GitHub.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 29 October 2022 02:48 (three years ago)
some sort of stunt to keep the troops on their toes type of thing youd see in a movie im sure it went over well in real life and the workers arent say brazenly posting your code to twitter cause they dont give a shit
Happy Friday all. pic.twitter.com/Rk9m1v1hmu— Leah Culver (@leahculver) October 28, 2022
― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 October 2022 02:51 (three years ago)
a social network with constantly shifting functionality would be cool, you always have to figure out whats going on like a game, of course no one would use it and it would fail
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FgPXv2mXgAAIlky?format=jpg&name=medium
― lag∞n, Saturday, 29 October 2022 13:30 (three years ago)
isnt it already this?
i mean it already fails lol but assuming we're not talking the kinds of multiple outage-dysfunction that accelerated livejournal's shift into the twilight
― mark s, Saturday, 29 October 2022 13:39 (three years ago)