All Series Must Die (Which Is Why There Are New Ones) -- The Game of Thrones Series Spinoffs

Mr Belvedere?

harrumph

streaks on the china never mattered before
who cares?

Jace and Luke bringing strong Ari and Uzi vibes in this new one

https://media.guestofaguest.com/t_article_content/gofg-media/2017/10/1/49766/lxyphjgl.jpg

one thing I don't totally buy...I feel like Alicent knows her kids totally suck. I feel like she'd be like "yeah sure, no, you be queen, my kids are terrible."

i'm still betting on a peace deal in this show, probably in season 2, episode 2, "let bygones be bygones"

After being pretty lukewarm on this all season, I thought the finale paid off well. Did in fact make me want to see the next season. Especially the prospect of dragon warfare.

On Alicent's kids my question is just, why are they such terrible kids? Their parents weren't psychopaths or anything, it's just kind of stipulated that they both turned out as assholes.

A big part of it is that they are the long awaited male heirs of Viserys, but then they have to always defer to Rhaenyra and her bastard children. On top of that, Aegon just seems to have been born fairly worthless, and Aemond has a chip on his shoulder for being bullied when he didn't have a dragon and for being parted from his eye once he stole a dragon for himself.

it's implied that aegon neglected his children with alicent and favored his grandchildren with rhaenyra. and alicent spent decades convincing them that rhaenyra would murder them if she ever became queen.

helaena seems like a sweet girl, tho

*viserys neglected his children with alicent, d'oh

also realizing that my post implies even greater incest than was already happening haha. need some coffee

did the show ever explain who Erryk and Arryk are? I haven't been able to figure out why we are supposed to see them as important in this thing.

one thing I don't totally buy...I feel like Alicent knows her kids totally suck. I feel like she'd be like "yeah sure, no, you be queen, my kids are terrible."

It's such a nice detail how Rhaenys never once bows to Rhaenyra. No one questions her on it, either, there's a silent understanding that giving her shit for it would be unfair and disrespectful. All conveyed subtly, no dialogue, just with Eve Best giving that little smirk of hers pic.twitter.com/NOta4SyMZ1

— Nix 🇺🇦 (@SnowyNix) October 22, 2022

*how much bigger

did the show ever explain who Erryk and Arryk are? I haven't been able to figure out why we are supposed to see them as important in this thing.

Helaena is cool btw, she’s clearly a prophetic dreamer like Viserys.

That ending shot was great, really enjoy Emma D’Arcy.

yes, but I'm under the impression that they are supposed to be very important characters and the reason for that is not particularly clear so far

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yes, but I'm under the impression that they are supposed to be _very important characters_ and the reason for that is not particularly clear so far

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erryk defected to rhaenyra, arryk stayed with aegon.

feel like they serve a thematic purpose to illustrate the silliness of the power struggle - the two sides of the conflict are so similar that literal identical twins wind up on opposite sides!

erryk was aegon's personal protector and grew so disgusted with the idea of him becoming king that he defected. arryk was all like "is rhaenyra that much better?" and "we swore an oath!"

feel like they serve a thematic purpose to illustrate the silliness of the power struggle - the two sides of the conflict are so similar that literal identical twins wind up on opposite sides!

that, and there's a chance they're going to sleep with each other

And now

A century before @GameofThrones, there was Ser Duncan the Tall and his squire, Egg.

Executive produced by George R. R. Martin, Ira Parker, Ryan Condal, and Vince Gerardis, A Knight of the #SevenKingdoms: The Hedge Knight has received a straight to series order. #StreamOnMax pic.twitter.com/MRPUke5Upt

— HBO Max (@hbomax) April 12, 2023

FINISH THE FUCKING BOOKS imho

not gonna happen

Oh dan m, such a sweet and simple naive faith you have

point: cool, maybe

counterpoint: this is approaching marvelesque levels of oversaturation

contrapunto: the bonfire of nerd rage is stoked for another decade, yaaay

I'm no sweet summer child, that's for sure xp

Oh ye of little faith.

He said just last week that he's 75% done with Winds of Winter so I'm sure it'll be just a few short years until we finally get to see it.

it's like elaborate performance art, makin us all ~~~really think~~~ about our need for definitive endings in fiction, and our desire to impose them on real lyfe as well, the decades-long build up of a narrative itch that will never be scratched by its happilyeverafter

They should adapt "Shovel Knight" next.

I predicted next year, 2024. for the new book awhile back, but I've given up hope on that front.

gap between #2 and #3 was 1 year
gap between #3 and #4 was 5 years
gap between #4 and #5 was 9 years

so I predicted 13 years for the next gap... putting us at 2011 + 13 = 2024

but if he's publicly stating 75% done, well, so not gonna happen

"75% done" does not mean that the remaining 25% will take the amount of time that is implied by the previous 75%.

I was 75% done writing a novel in 1993. You know what? It's still 75% done.

oh exactly, that’s why I’ve given up on 2024

honestly I don’t think we’ll ever see it. but as long as we don’t end up with Brandon Sanderson being dragged in to finish it…..

Funny that this is from a film released in 2017

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nwa6xgIZCv8

If we get to 2026, the gap between #5 and #6 will be more than the gap between #1 and #5 xps

But yeah, if it ever turns up great, if it doesn't, well I guess most people are past caring now

What are the other big series that are also stuck in limbo?

Gentleman Bastards and Kingkiller Chronicles spring to mind (last instalments on both of those also 2011) - any others?

Annnd here we go

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQ8H5gqGA34

So I spent the last few days re-watching the first season of House of the Dragon. I liked it a lot more the second time around and feel prepped for the new season.

S1 definitely got off to a slow start, and I think didn’t really find its footing until as late as episode 8 or 9. The entire first half of the season felt more like moving chess pieces around the board, with the exception of some great performances from Matt Smith and especially Milly Alcock.

Even on the second time around I felt some whiplash in the second half, with two time jumps and so many similar-looking and similar-named characters. Of all things, I think I’m still most thrown by the fact that young Aegon was played by a tall skinny boy with long blonde hair, but two eps later when they are older, its Aemond who is played by a tall skinny actor with long blonde hair. If they’d just swapped which actors were playing which brothers, I think it would have been less disorienting!

It’s been said upthread (albeit 2 years ago), but this season made the odd decision to keep the scale of the action very limited to the politics of the court, even as great battles were waged offscreen. They spent the first few episodes building up the Crabfeeder and the Triarchy, only for Daemon’s three-year effort to defeat them condensed over half an episode. Later, Corlys (aka the Sea Snake) goes off to fight a resurgent Triarchy, coming back mortally wounded and near death—and that 100% took place in a time jump between two episodes, so we never saw that battle nor is there much weight truly given to Corlys’s formidable navy nor his essential abandonment of his wife in the wake of their children’s deaths. Still elsewhere, Rhaenyra will have two small children in one episode and then nine month’s pregnant and giving birth in the next. All the fast forwarding and changing actors to show age created so much whiplash. Even on second viewing it was hard to keep up, though I did a better job of it this time.

There is a version of this show, which would have made it closer to the scale of GoT, if they had stretched the first season across two or even three seasons, and allowed some of the adventures in the background to come forward. On the other hand that only would have delayed the war between the two factions which has been set up for season 2. So I’ll reserve judgement on that choice. There is definitely a version of this show with a major, satisfying payoff ahead that would make all the table-setting of s1 feel worthwhile.

i probably should have done the same. i'm still confused on a couple details, but the recap i read worked well enough.
i won't risk spoiling any of the episode, but i did think the opening credits were much improved

I spent most of this episode trying to piece together who the different characters were and what they had been up to last time we saw them. Too many silver-haired weirdos.

plus literal twins.

And of course the children resemble their respective enemies

The rewatch definitely helped as I understood precisely who everyone was and what their motivations were. There are a lot of characters (like Larys for instance) who I would have totally forgotten.

That said, even on my rewatch over the weekend the twins did not register as serious characters so I still scratched my head for a minute as to who they were or why I should care. But ok, I’m on board with them now, sure.

so much went on in that first season of this that I thought this might be the 3rd one

The gf is out of town and watching any of our current shows would be a hostile act, maybe cramming in a rewatch before the next ep would be doable

I spent most of this episode trying to piece together who the different characters were and what they had been up to last time we saw them. Too many silver-haired weirdos.

― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, June 17, 2024 12:24 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

plus literal twins.

― FRAUDULENT STEAKS (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Monday, June 17, 2024 12:41 AM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

reminding my wife that Arryk's brother's name was Erryk felt like the final straw.

But it was I who had to stop the episode cause I was falling asleep.

this week’s ep was the best of either season to date

yeah the bar is v low but it actually NOW feels like an actual show and not a powerpoint slideshow of a family tree

yeah, it was an insane decision to zoom through the first season. there’s still a lot going on, but at least now the action has room to breathe

still struggling to keep all the various blonde weirdos straight in my head