like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

I heard on the radio this morning that the chat from the backbenchers is of a Rishi/Mordaunt *dream team* being installed for a salvage job, without consulting the membership this time. There will surely be some reforms to their leadership election rules after this clusterfuck.

Truss wouldn't have made the final 2 without backbench support so they might want to have a think about that

given the way their leadership electoral system works it's really rich trying to blame the members

there might be a bit of selective amnesia amongst some of them

i'm sure there's a lot of real amnesia when you're allowed to get pished at work every day

The way they ran the round of elections nearly guarantees that there isn't a majority of MPs directly expressing support - the final round of MP votes was Sunak 137 Truss 113 Mordaunt 105 so yeah I guess you can say 1st and 3rd would have a majority?

And there's no shortage of Truss-supporting MPs loudly bewailing their choice.

Can't see Truss being let go until after the May local elections.

Rishi/Morduant also relies on both of them being up for the job. A recession and a crisis in Mortgages is pretty certain at this stage I think.

If Boris pushes through his resignation honours and forces 8 by-elections before May then it might change it - but what happens if / when bank support ends tomorrow will probably be more important.

Mordaunt's face as Truss ballsed up PMQs yesterday was a picture.

Don't think the Bank will let markets be markets tomorrow.

is there any reason why there wont be another run on the pension funds when they withdraw support? Markets are a nebulous concept to me. I just do runs on potatoes and leeks at the markets and keep it simple.

"Mordaunt's face as Truss ballsed up PMQs yesterday was a picture."

yes!!

Mordaunt supported Truss too, so egg on face.

If Sunak were to be installed via a coronation that could really piss the racists in the Tory membership off (which is all of them), so I'm giving it my critical support.

Major u-turn on the way apparently.

"If Lab gets in things will improve for nurses"

"Pushed on whether he would back strikes, he said: 'I don’t want the strikes to go ahead. We want to be in government; in government you resolve issues.' ... Asked in a follow-up question whether workers' wages should also rise with inflation, he demurred"https://t.co/ETrr4L90nA

— josie sparrow (@ofthesparrows) October 13, 2022

all that slimeball will ever offer to nurses are condescending "well done" medals, not pay rises

We haven't clapped them or rattled some pots and pans for a while.

three Tories in a row were just interviewed about Truss live in the Newsnight studio, “balanced” by a short video featuring the editor of ConservativeHome, and somebody from the Labour Party who said something utterly forgettable. Now another in-depth live conversation from a KPMG analyst, and reporters from Bloomberg and the Telegraph.

Fuck Keir Starmer. And I say that as someone who was initially inclined to cut him some slack. But if he can't come out now and say nurses' wages at the bare minimum should at least keep up with inflation - which would be a completely cost-free thing for him to say politically - then fuck him.

They should be, but they should be in a way where they have to thank him, that's all.

I'd vote for a party whose leader said "whatever pay rise union leaders ask for, that's what they should get". But no such party exists, sadly.

I am so, so sceptical of those who claim this would ruin things. Such people claim that this would mean that we would then massively increase the country's debt, ruining things for future generations.

Yet, hypocritically, those same people are still perfectly happy to continue to burn fossil fuels, and oppose environmental policies, in so doing, going down a route which would ruin things for future generations to a far greater degree than becoming indebted!

What we actually need is a Green/socialist coalition. I am no fan of London mayor Khan, who seems to have achieved very little. But I am totally on his side when he wants to extend the ULEZ, and put a bigger slice of London under the congestion charge, and totally against those numpty London MPs (Labour & Tory) who oppose such a move.

“I believe you have a funny story to tell us Kwasi. Is it true you were Chancellor of the Exchequer for about a month?” pic.twitter.com/gRJSmxhzkA

— Mo' (@mocent0) October 13, 2022

he's definitely going to beat Zahawi's record. It still makes me laugh that this wretched character that I thought was going haunt my mornings and noons for at least a few months was effectively finished after 3 days.

It's like the drum stool in Spinal Tap! Who next I wonder?

Kwarteng about to be sacked is the word on the street... according to some guy from the Times.

Am I so out of touch no it's the entryists who are real

MPs picked her as one of the two candidates and the Mail put its thumb on the scales for her. Are these people simply incapable of looking at the systems they’ve been covering for decades doing what they do, and not deciding the disasters must have been due to elves or aliens. pic.twitter.com/rKQ4kU3WCe

— Flying_Rodent (@flying_rodent) October 14, 2022

xp

EXCLUSIVE:

I'm told that Kwasi Kwarteng is being sacked as Chancellor as Liz Truss prepares to reverse the mini-Budget

Not clear who will be replacing him

Events moving very, very quickly this morning

No 10 not commentinghttps://t.co/LoUAVxD00N

— Steven Swinford (@Steven_Swinford) October 14, 2022

and yet at 8:07 this morning...

A No 10 source tell me the PM thinks the Chancellor is ‘doing an excellent job and they are in lockstep.’

When asked if Liz Truss wants Kwasi Kwarteng to continue in the job in the coming months, the source said ‘yes.’

More @BBCr4today in a mo https://t.co/pesmDwDjjd

— Chris Mason (@ChrisMasonBBC) October 14, 2022

Ooooh, nothing really mat-ters

taking too long to type out "schrodinger's kwarteng" here

Shortest serving chancellors post-war
1. Iain Macleod, 30 days (died in office)
2? Kwasi Kwarteng, 38 days
3. Nadhim Zahawi, 63 days (caretaker)
4. Sajid Javid, 204 days
5. Peter Thorneycroft, 358 days

— Henry Dyer (@Direthoughts) October 14, 2022

1. Iain MacLeod (died in office)
2. Kwasi Kwarteng (died on his arse)

the iain macleod story needs carmody to come back and explain butskellism to us

("one-nation toryism" also died in office after just 30 days)

The death of Macleod gave us... Cecil Parkinson MP.

This is very funny until you realise JRM might be next Chancellor

Interesting replies on why the rental market has gone to the dogs.

Any idea why London rents are going so crazy? My back of envelope numbers suggest at the conventional elasticity, something like 9% of the rental housing stock would have had to come off the market (or demand has gone up very sharply but I don't see why that would have happened)

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) October 13, 2022

(xp) In that case he will smash Iain MacLeod's record because Truss will be gone before the end of the month, possibly long before it.

It's going to be Jeremy Hunt apparently xps

LONG GAME HUNT

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Chancellor of the Exchequer is the only Great Office Of State that Boris Johnson has never held. Appointing him to it would heal wounds in the parliamentary Conservative Party, and demonstrate a pragmatic, One Nation approach which would surely improve market sentiment.

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) October 14, 2022

Is this what it feels like...when Doves cry" etc.

"We have been colleagues and friends for many years. In that time, I have seen your dedication and determination. I believe your vision is the right one. It has been an honour to serve as your first chancellor."

I, too, want the power to humiliate and fire my ex

— Jason Okundaye (@jasebyjason) October 14, 2022

38 day collar

Kwasi was Chancellor for five days less than David Blaine was in that box

— Ed Cumming (@edcumming) October 14, 2022

According to this No10 letter, chancellor Kwasi Kwarteng has been sacked by prime minister Kwasi Kwarteng pic.twitter.com/NpYTYs3Ex4

— Sebastian Payne (@SebastianEPayne) October 14, 2022

Just to add to the above 🤯

Liz Truss has signed off her response to Kwasi Kwarteng's resignation letter as "Kwasi Kwarteng" 🤔 pic.twitter.com/u1Dek7zRD6

— Jon Stone (@joncstone) October 14, 2022

On the positive side this may add a frisson of sadism to the relationship

ah, apparently the recipient at the bottom is a 10 downing street thing? i think i might even have been told that before

Swivel-eyed Jeremy Cunt as the new chancellor - now they're really messing with us

I'm just wondering why on earth you'd take that job, given Truss is unlikely to even make November

Sounds like a version of the tweet by Dan Davies. A thing to unite factions.