if only we had taken the "billionaires shouldn't exist" argument more seriously!
*shakes hand at heavens, rends garments*
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 19:56 (one year ago) link
When this is all ya got
Alex Jones after his billion dollar damages verdict: "They want to scare us away from question Uvalde or Parkland. We're not going away. We're not going to stop."He's now selling "vitamineral fusion" from the InfoWars store.— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) October 12, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 20:02 (one year ago) link
they're suppositories, pack of 40 in a bottle for $4,000 each
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 20:06 (one year ago) link
which supplements can help me increase the intensity of the already intense tan on my balls?
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 12 October 2022 20:26 (one year ago) link
Mmm...glorious.
If Alex jones pays for lying shouldn’t every celebrity pushing vaccines pay too ?— M.I.A. (@MIAuniverse) October 12, 2022
― but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 23:41 (one year ago) link
M.I.A. sounds about as sharp as Jones' lawyers.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 12 October 2022 23:54 (one year ago) link
Ew. I haven't been keeping up with her, didn't realize she was a straight up ding-dong nowadays.
― Cow_Art, Thursday, 13 October 2022 00:07 (one year ago) link
I’ll feel better when Jones is completely destitute.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 13 October 2022 00:28 (one year ago) link
But this feels pretty good.
Paper planes can’t melt steel beams.
― The self-titled drags (Eazy), Thursday, 13 October 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link
She's supposedly also a born again Christian now
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 13 October 2022 02:09 (one year ago) link
jfc @ mia
― sleeve, Thursday, 13 October 2022 02:46 (one year ago) link
All we need now is for B.O.B. to become a Flat Earther
Oh wait
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 October 2022 03:48 (one year ago) link
I love a lot of her shit, but MIA has always been hella dumb. Don’t think I’ve read/seen an interview with her that didn’t deflate what she seemed to be doing artistically.
― circa1916, Thursday, 13 October 2022 04:12 (one year ago) link
jeez, mia. i don't have a "never have heroes" policy, i stick with "assume anyone you don't know is a complete asshole or box of rocks." so many worthless people also overcome injustice and hardship. reality is just that way i guess.
still, if what i heard about this Jones award being non-dischargeable in BK comes true-- HAHAHAHA LOOOOOLLLL YES! YES! YES YES YES!1!!!1111!!! you can live on thiel's yacht somewhere, harvesting the blood of abducted children to keep him young.
NB I DO NOT SUSPECT THIEL OF ABDUCTING CHILDREN FOR BLOOD. no matter what mia might have to say about the matter.
― i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Thursday, 13 October 2022 04:38 (one year ago) link
Actual Florida elected official right here. There is literally nobody and nothing the right won't embrace if it's something that offends liberals.
Alex Jones should be appointed as next President of the University of Florida—NOT Ben Sasse— Rep. Anthony Sabatini (@AnthonySabatini) October 12, 2022
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:13 (one year ago) link
ok but that would actually be pretty funny
― J0rdan S., Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:15 (one year ago) link
which is funny as in political attack ads during primary, Sabatini was basically called a RINO
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:47 (one year ago) link
I want someone to ask Sabatini, on camera and totally straight-faced, "Why?" Let him explain why he thinks Alex Jones would make a good university president. Sort of like when someone tells a racist joke in your presence, you can just look at them and say, "I don't get it. Explain it to me."
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 13 October 2022 14:53 (one year ago) link
i think this is just his way of saying he's an FSU fan
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:01 (one year ago) link
I've never heard of Sabatini, but his track record of dead/failed/vetoed bills is impressive. Just about the only he managed to get passed was an act requiring the Governor to proclaim November 7 of each year as "Victims of Communism Day."
― Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link
Hard for me to take any pride in being Italian after the last election in Italy, and Sabatini/DeSantis
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:16 (one year ago) link
Early life and educationSabatini was born in Smithtown, New York, in 1988 and moved with his family to Florida the following year. In a high school photo, Sabatini and a friend were pictured in blackface. In his freshman year of college, he was photographed in brownface. He earned bachelor's degrees in philosophy and history from the University of Florida in 2012 and a Juris Doctor from the University of Florida Fredric G. Levin College of Law in 2017.
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:17 (one year ago) link
The second and third sentences are from Gertrude Stein.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:18 (one year ago) link
2008 financial crash— M.I.A. (@MIAuniverse) October 13, 2022
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:38 (one year ago) link
a close friend from high school has an exceedingly bad case of brain worms, and Sabatini is her guy. She lives in Florida and has brought him to speak at antivax rallies she's organized and stuff. I long ago stopped trying to reason with her and just cut her out of my life, but the temptation rose up fresh with that Alex Jones tweet. I know whatever transpired between us would be ineffective and make me see red so not gonna do it, but jesus
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Thursday, 13 October 2022 15:42 (one year ago) link
I've heard so many similar stories of people becoming estranged from friends, or even family members, who fall down the rabbit hole of these mass delusions. It's very sad.
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 13 October 2022 16:16 (one year ago) link
we def live in an environment in which we believe "minds don't get changed." i'm quite solid on that too. but people DO "give up."
and later they sometimes change their minds with a lot of time and enough experience. often, for the latter? not really-- when given hope for their delusions, they right back on their shit.
focus on being being relentless, just, and giving them enough hopelessness, sense of (minimal) security, and retreat space to fucking GIVE. UP. ain't saying they deserve security and space, but seems like how it goes?
― i'm intentionally vague, intending to front multitudes (Hunt3r), Thursday, 13 October 2022 16:18 (one year ago) link
One more for the grist mill
MIA being anti establishment makes me laugh i was her tenant in ldn for years we had multiple oustanding repairs and when we left she tried to take us for thousands. Whenever i see her doing this it makes me laugh— rick (@beard4toon) October 13, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 13 October 2022 16:28 (one year ago) link
Kaya My Landlord
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 October 2022 16:29 (one year ago) link
oops
Kala My Landlord obv
― “uhh”—like, this is an insane oatmeal raisin cookie “uhh” (President Keyes), Thursday, 13 October 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link
you owe the full deposit— bob marley
― mark s, Thursday, 13 October 2022 16:39 (one year ago) link
To be fair she literally warned that all she wants to do is take your money.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Thursday, 13 October 2022 16:42 (one year ago) link
So this dipshit went right back on InfoWars today to.... mock the victims' parents? Fuck this soulless parasite.
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 13 October 2022 22:31 (one year ago) link
The ALAB series on Alex Jones is p good so far.
https://www.alabseries.com/episodes/alex-jonesminiseries-1
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 October 2022 08:58 (one year ago) link
And for a podcast it's very well organised (I don't do podcasts but every now and then if the topic engages me I will give it a go and hate it, not the case this time).
- Didn't know his background but the level of invention in your history is something that seems quite deeply American.
- I really loved the first couple of series of the X-Files and this is kinda how I took what I heard of Jones. Just a 'wacko' full of fun conspiracy theories.
- Fun is the word and it's good that, even at this point, they acknowledge what a good broadcaster he was. He did something that was worth a listen.
- I didn't know he was talking about Bin Laden before 9/11 but I'm not sure how impressed I should be. I think if you kept up your knowledge about who American services were funding at one point, or certain operations (basically reading the fine print) then sooner or later you get onto something big.
Anyway I am still on that EP. Would've liked them to go more into Waco and the Oklahoma bombings, and how it might have been big events for the likes of Jones.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, 27 October 2022 09:16 (one year ago) link
I really loved the first couple of series of the X-Files and this is kinda how I took what I heard of Jones. Just a 'wacko' full of fun conspiracy theories.
Been thinking a lot about how back in the 90's for me conspiracy thinking was fun shit like Bigfoot or aliens, coupled with a sort of laudatory skepticism of govt institutions. That world is long gone though and sadly even the most fun conspiracy theories seem to go back to racism if you dig deep enough into them.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 27 October 2022 09:49 (one year ago) link
The ep was good, a lot of stuff I didn’t know about as I’ve never really followed Jones. Was he really a “liberal darling” during the bush era? The ALAB hosts are otm that when Glenn says says this he is talking about Glenn but then they seem to agree that this actually applies to AJ. I’m sure his audience included lefter leaning burnout types back then but feel like “liberal darling” implies more than that
― Wiggum Dorma (wins), Thursday, 27 October 2022 10:32 (one year ago) link
i felt they were saying more that yes, anti-bush types certainly sat back and enjoyed when jones was excoriating bush and he had chaos-clown's licence (despite being a hilarious nutjob) but no he was never actually a "liberal darling" (= glenn's claim, which they are repudiating)
― mark s, Thursday, 27 October 2022 10:47 (one year ago) link
albeit repudiating more by implication than direct statement
Yeah Jones was still a fringe figure, hardly Jon Stewart-level.
― Lord Pickles (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 27 October 2022 11:30 (one year ago) link
Been thinking a lot about how back in the 90's for me conspiracy thinking was fun shit like Bigfoot or aliens, coupled with a sort of laudatory skepticism of govt institutions
yeah i think about this a lot too, there was so much stuff in the 90s depicting conspiracy theories as a fun oddball personality quirk, generally harmless and often funny. whereas nowadays if a stranger starts telling me JFK is still alive or that the president is secretly an alien i get legit worried for my safety and try to get away as fast as possible. things like X Files and Slacker definitely hit differently for me now in that sense
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Thursday, 27 October 2022 13:29 (one year ago) link
Dale was always the most fun character on King of the Hill
― frogbs, Thursday, 27 October 2022 13:45 (one year ago) link
beliefs mark lane probably would NOT have endorsed
(i) jfk's head just did that by itself(ii) AND HE SURVIVED
― mark s, Thursday, 27 October 2022 13:55 (one year ago) link
JFK was dyed Black and sent to a mental health institute with Elvis. Ffs has nobody seen that documentary Bubba Ho-Tep
― stank viola (Neanderthal), Thursday, 27 October 2022 15:14 (one year ago) link
Absolutely. When I rewatched X-Files last year, I supplemented it with ’90s episodes of Art Bell. It was very entertaining, but I refrained from googling the guests for fear of finding out they’ve moved on from believing in the Philadelphia Experiment and energy auras to MAGA shit. While I’m sure some of the guests were right-wing at the time, the show/theories always came across as apolitical in its kookiness.
― blatherskite, Thursday, 27 October 2022 16:17 (one year ago) link
There’s obviously plenty of leftists still wary/against the government (with good reason), but it does seem that being anti-government has become a right-wing signifier. My partner (who’d never seen the X-Files) raised an eyebrow sometimes because the show seemed to vaguely right-wing, though that stuff really came from post-Watergate/counterculture skepticism. It certainly was a bit jarring to watch it now and realize that the main villain in the show was "the deep state", though one made up of bipartisan Cold Warriors rather than evil Dems.
― blatherskite, Thursday, 27 October 2022 16:30 (one year ago) link
Mark Fenster’s Conspiracy Theories: Secrecy and Power in American Culture does a great job talking about X-Files and how Mulder pretty much was an investigator of this stuff not for emancipatory reasons, but for selfish ones. He also can’t just be an investigator about, he also has to write about it. There’s a compulsion inherent in the culture that you both consume and produce content about it, which is why you got so many blogs and zines and YouTube channels breathlessly recounting each other’s findings.
Also how the very 90s naïve idea that all that would be required to be justice or right a wrong would be to pull the mask away and show who the wrongdoer really was. Scooby Doo logic, and you can see how it still applies today as a LOT of people have never really be given a correct idea of what power is, how it works, and who actually holds it.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 27 October 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link
back in the 90's for me conspiracy thinking was fun shit
I used to work with a guy who was convinced that the main reason Hitler invaded Russia was for their hemp, he knew there was no chance of winning the war without that sweet, sweet soviet hemp
He was also a big Chomsky fan, and tried to convince me that all the major networks conspired to keep Chomsky off the airwaves because he spoke the unvarnished TRUTH, rather than him being a boring old blowhard
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 27 October 2022 17:18 (one year ago) link
Funny that it never occurs to Mulder to tell the world about all the mutants, psychic killers etc. he encountered—he only cared about proving the existence of aliens, even though more people were killed throughout the series by the Monster of the Week than alien bounty hunters.
― blatherskite, Thursday, 27 October 2022 17:54 (one year ago) link