Things You Just Don't Care About

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it's as addictive as the crack pipe, just one more hit/packet of teddy bears - this will be my last hit -honest!

calzino, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:04 (one year ago) link

I think Halloween has ascended in cultural prominence for exactly one reason: it is comparatively secular.

When I was a child (several centuries ago), American society was presumed to be 97% Christian, 2% Jewish, and 1% "miscellaneous other." So a typical school "holiday" concert had eight Christmas songs, three winter songs, and one Hanukkah song, and was therefore deemed inclusive.

That shit will no longer fly in the world my kids inhabit. In spring 2012, my daughter's kindergarten teacher innocently planned an "egg hunt." She was quickly (and rightly) smacked down; there was enough protest that it was rebranded as a "pirate treasure hunt."

Non-religious occasions - Earth Day, Mother's Day, Father's Day, Arbor Day, Halloween, New Year's - have taken on increased significance as we (rightly) back away from the assumption that almost everyone is Christian (except for a few people who are Jewish and an even smaller number of people who are, yikes, Muslim).

the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:11 (one year ago) link

bought £1 pack of Haribo Starmix. Worst weets ever in history of my life, rubbery, tasteless, disgusting. "Happy world of Haribo" Bollocks

— Michael Winner (@MrMichaelWinner) June 24, 2012

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:14 (one year ago) link

haribo like charon and paddington bear, gently ushering mortals to the other side

mark s, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

its made of jellied evil

mark s, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:17 (one year ago) link

Kids and grown-ups love it so, though. Says so right on the package.

the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:18 (one year ago) link

I once did some work on the bus stop lighting by the Haribo factory in Pontefract. It smells of pure evil for a square mile around that place - it's awful. A similar smell to when you are near an industrial chemical plant that makes paint and acid!

calzino, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link

Haribo are delicious, when you have the three or four pieces you're supposed to have. once you have past that threshold, your mouth and stomach start to say "ease up pardner", and you keep shoveling it in anyway.

GERD city

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:26 (one year ago) link

That shit will no longer fly in the world my kids inhabit. In spring 2012, my daughter's kindergarten teacher innocently planned an "egg hunt." She was quickly (and rightly) smacked down; there was enough protest that it was rebranded as a "pirate treasure hunt."

Kids today disapprove of pagan fertility rituals? What's the world coming to etc

we're glistening (Matt #2), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:32 (one year ago) link

Wiki suggests egg hunts were always Xtian, page rewritten by religious maniacs imo

we're glistening (Matt #2), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:33 (one year ago) link

I loved it when I found the egg Jesus was in and ate it

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

stopped the second coming right then and there

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 18:34 (one year ago) link

xp to trenchant i guess but: social media and end stage capitalism have made all non-religious american holidays insufferable by inflating their active timeline to approximately one full month of preparation, purchase and wallow

(i am including xmas in that of course. maybe easter too)

all holidays should happen every day

mark s, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 19:01 (one year ago) link

-Korn

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 19:02 (one year ago) link

all hallows all the time

mark s, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 19:03 (one year ago) link

the performative Halloween fetishists annoy me because they post about it daily, the Spirit Halloween memes, but then like everyone else, they go to one Halloween party, they put out candy for the kids, and that's it.

if yr really as spooky-ooky-Halloween as you say you should be in costume scaring people on the highway and running them off the road

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 19:08 (one year ago) link

i shall eat yr heart when yr asleep 🎃🕷

mark s, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 19:10 (one year ago) link

^gets it

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 19:17 (one year ago) link

yet year after year it's the same routine
and i grow so weary of the sound of screams

mark s, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 19:25 (one year ago) link

isn't Hallowe'en a religious festival? it's there in the name.

koogs, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 21:27 (one year ago) link

(my get out clause for when someone smacks this down - i didn't say which religion)

idea of Halloween > actuality ime

koogs, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link

Pavement, Pavement reunion shows

oh yeah and also Halloween

Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 21:53 (one year ago) link

I used to work for a woman who said that All Saint's Day came after a day dedicated to Satan.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 21:55 (one year ago) link

yet year after year it's the same routine
and i grow so weary of the sound of screams

lol

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 21:58 (one year ago) link

the performative Halloween fetishists annoy me because they post about it daily, the Spirit Halloween memes, but then like everyone else, they go to one Halloween party, they put out candy for the kids, and that's it.

if yr really as spooky-ooky-Halloween as you say you should be in costume scaring people on the highway and running them off the road

― stank viola (Neanderthal)

ok i was ringing this bell in the other thread but halloween is GAY GAY FUCKING GAY

like obviously if you're not out as _trans_ it's the one day where you can do gender diverse presentation and only get a _few_ weird looks but even if you're not trans, halloween is the one queer holiday the cishets reluctantly acknowledge

it's also our last line of defense against Santa's Claw taking over the entire fucking year, so you'd better be fucking grateful for us witches

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 22:31 (one year ago) link

also fuck you pumpkin spice lattes are delicious

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 22:36 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ppu5BsqKck

brimstead, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 22:57 (one year ago) link

YASSSS

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 23:19 (one year ago) link

King otm

jmm, Wednesday, 5 October 2022 23:24 (one year ago) link

it's also our last line of defense against Santa's Claw taking over the entire fucking year, so you'd better be fucking grateful for us witches

definitely feel like some of the energy extending it to an all-month thing is spurred on by queer and queer-adjacent ppl trying to turn it into their own version of christmas. that energy is why i can get behind it, even though i'm not a big halloween celebrator irl (like not at all, who has the fucking energy to celebrate holidays for god's sake).

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

I personally love Halloween I just want people to embrace the darkness more.

No comedy mustache, create an extra papier mache head, work a shift as Publix dressed as Leatherface

stank viola (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 23:37 (one year ago) link

it's true that many people could do with more darkness in their lives.

ꙮ (map), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 23:40 (one year ago) link

i think it would be hilarious if anybody, ever, advised me to "embrace the darkness" more.

i don't think that'll ever happen.

Kate (rushomancy), Wednesday, 5 October 2022 23:59 (one year ago) link

I wore two rats on my shoulders to work my restaurant shift last Halloween and it was suitably grim and disgusting.
Halloween is 1) secular and 2) not tethered to FAMILY and is therefore my fave holiday followed closely by Thanksgiving which is also secular and not always tied to family. For the non-family-having non-religious person, there’s no other day quite like it.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:00 (one year ago) link

definitely feel like some of the energy extending it to an all-month thing is spurred on by queer and queer-adjacent ppl trying to turn it into their own version of christmas. that energy is why i can get behind it, even though i'm not a big halloween celebrator irl (like not at all, who has the fucking energy to celebrate holidays for god's sake).

― ꙮ (map)

for real i was going to celebrate National Get Out of Bed Day this year but i just wasn't feeling it

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:01 (one year ago) link

Halloween is 1) secular and 2) not tethered to FAMILY and is therefore my fave holiday followed closely by Thanksgiving which is also secular and not always tied to family. For the non-family-having non-religious person, there’s no other day quite like it.

― Piggy Lepton (La Lechera)

i'm definitely leaning into the "found family" thing lately, for the last decade with my ex it was the two of us against the world and that's not... really a thing anymore. so this year some folks in my friend group are doing T4Thanksgiving and I'm sure I'll wind up doing that.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:04 (one year ago) link

That’s great — that’s what I’m talking about. It’s not for children, it’s not religious, and it’s about gathering w people you care about. It’s a holiday for everyone. May Day is similar but less celebrated.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:06 (one year ago) link

i love halloween in theory for all of these reasons but decor and costumes were never me. anyway, i already celebrate it every other day when i do yoga naked to high on fire

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:10 (one year ago) link

i long for more found family but it's been a challenge for various reasons.

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:11 (one year ago) link

doing yoga high, naked, and on fire is definitely the true spirit of halloween

International Workers' Day is another one of the big queer holidays, for some reason it hasn't quite taken off in the United States yet. well, me and my friends will keep celebrating at least!

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:12 (one year ago) link

halloween is for normies

donald wears yer troosers (doo rag), Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:20 (one year ago) link

For some reason

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:21 (one year ago) link

i like may day and iwd. i wish i were around more people who celebrated them. nominally progressive people here are still v. conservative. even american-flagged-over labor day is still barely acknowledged where i am. every year my supervisor makes sure we all know she doesn't believe it should be a holiday.

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:22 (one year ago) link

that reminds me i get next monday off. obviously i h8 columbus, i'm just tired of the discourse and wish i could take a break from it this year.

ꙮ (map), Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:29 (one year ago) link

halloween is for normies

― donald wears yer troosers (doo rag)

look i already _told_ you i like pumpkin spice latte, we've already established that i am a complete and total normie in every way

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 6 October 2022 00:39 (one year ago) link

Everyone is perpetually seven years old nowadays. Yes let’s make all of October Halloween. Dickhead phrekes.

Josefa, Thursday, 6 October 2022 01:09 (one year ago) link

TV commercial indicates that Reese's and KitKat (the big 'uns, like at the movies) are now hooked up...officially. That's my month of Halloween.

dow, Thursday, 6 October 2022 01:22 (one year ago) link

Never seen you cranky before, Josefa. You need a potion.

dow, Thursday, 6 October 2022 01:24 (one year ago) link


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