like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

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How long is this trickle-down effect supposed to take anyway?

*wonders what he's got himself into* (Matt #2), Saturday, 1 October 2022 09:34 (three years ago)

long enough for you to like it

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 1 October 2022 09:44 (three years ago)

The pink line here signifies the complete failure of British politicians and media. pic.twitter.com/7xptfsbAfk

— Metatone (@Metatone2) October 1, 2022

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 1 October 2022 10:32 (three years ago)

Meanwhile, more money needed for that highly successful levelling up programme.

https://news.sky.com/story/british-steels-chinese-owner-seeks-huge-government-aid-package-12708894

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Saturday, 1 October 2022 10:59 (three years ago)

So, we all have to tighten our belts so as to give more money to rich people.

(I know but..)

.. says everyone in the country right now. They aren't even asking for clarification, they are stating it as objective fact.

Mark G, Saturday, 1 October 2022 13:01 (three years ago)

Yes but you can breathe your last, starving to death on the shores of a poisoned waterway, safe in the knowledge that you'll do so amid a first-quarter projection of sound economic growth. So there's that.

*wonders what he's got himself into* (Matt #2), Saturday, 1 October 2022 13:44 (three years ago)

actions fine, cause laudable, explanation a bit odd to say the least.

BREAKING: End UK Private Jets supporter pours human faceas on Captain Tom memorial. Maddie, 21, former medical student said:

“Every time a private jet takes off, it pours a bucket of shit and blood on everything Captain Tom stood for”#endukprivatejetshttps://t.co/zTzVJ2gu8H pic.twitter.com/4qjpKiyO9n

— End UK Private Jets (@EndUKPrivateJet) September 30, 2022

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 1 October 2022 17:44 (three years ago)

lol, amazing.

calzino, Saturday, 1 October 2022 17:50 (three years ago)

A few years back, in guangzhou, I was managing teachers in an adult language training centre, and I recommended my assistant Colin for the same role in another centre in the city. just one week into the job they had this crazy student who hadn't been given a refund on a £5 headset, which she'd used for a whole year and broken, she turned up with bags of urine from the hospital where she worked - as a doctor! - and emptied them all over the reception area, then the next day she turned up again with bags of shit, they begged her not to start throwing it around, they gave her £10 to go away, but she tore up the money and started throwing the shit around anyway. one teacher (a big guy from newcastle) tried to restrain her, she left and came back with the police half an hour later, had him arrested for assault. Anyway, that's my emptying bags of shit over things story, sorry for sending you there, Colin!

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 1 October 2022 18:01 (three years ago)

I was thinking did she gradually steal gallons of human faeces from some hospital university when she was a medical student, well maybe "steal" is the wrong word here.

calzino, Saturday, 1 October 2022 18:08 (three years ago)

yeah I think getting hold of that sort of thing is a lot easier if you work in a hospital

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 1 October 2022 18:26 (three years ago)

"Some households will likely pay above £2,500 per year on energy bills, experts and Ofgem report"

yep, that's how averages work

koogs, Saturday, 1 October 2022 19:33 (three years ago)

Kwasi Kwarteng attended a private champagne reception hours after delivering his mini-budget where hedge fund managers who would gain from a crash in the pound egged him on to commit to his plans.

The chancellor also gave guests insights about forthcoming government spending cuts during the event, which took place at the Chelsea home of Andrew Law, a financier and Conservative Party donor, on the evening of Friday, September 23.

at this point there is a lot of yeah whatever in response to this latest Pogrund "scoop" because who even gives a fuck anymore?

calzino, Saturday, 1 October 2022 21:37 (three years ago)

"The chancellor also gave guests insights about forthcoming government spending cuts during the event".

[Bond villain cackle]

calzino, Saturday, 1 October 2022 21:44 (three years ago)

Truss, a) asked Biden to bring down global energy prices.

b) She then asked Biden to enforce a total cutoff of all Russian oil exports.

Even Biden perceived that the requests were oxymoronic since Putin’s success in exporting large quantities of oil have been keeping a lid on the price of crude, which would undoubtedly soar if “Urals crude” vanished from world markets, thus further tanking the British economy, along with Truss’ political fortunes and, more importantly, Democratic prospects in the midterms.

Following the meeting he told aides that the new British leader was “really dumb” and not to be treated seriously.

acting braindead on the world stage to own the libs!

calzino, Sunday, 2 October 2022 09:50 (three years ago)

One of the few areas where Joe Biden is in agreement with Sergei Lavrov.

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 October 2022 10:23 (three years ago)

It's not supposed to work this way, we're supposed to laugh up our sleeves at how dumb US presidents are not the other way around.

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Sunday, 2 October 2022 10:24 (three years ago)

Business model latest

Best month ever for @novaramedia on YouTube CONFIRMED.

5.4 million views in September.

You can support our work here. @michaeljswalker alone deserves 10 million (and the rest)! 😉https://t.co/quePr80otb

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) October 2, 2022

the pinefox, Sunday, 2 October 2022 10:33 (three years ago)

i'm sure there's no connection between that and the recent soft-soaping of Kieth and Pals

Mizue loves company (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 2 October 2022 10:48 (three years ago)

Everyone in the Novara discussion from a few days ago surely knows they have been able to pay staff for at least a couple of years now. No one disputes they are successful on those terms.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 October 2022 10:57 (three years ago)

Peter Stefanovic! 40 MILLION VIEWS!!! yeah baby that's how you bring down capitalism!

calzino, Sunday, 2 October 2022 11:23 (three years ago)

I don't watch any Novara videos but if they were saying Kieth's shitty PFI green energy plan was good then they don't deserve a penny

calzino, Sunday, 2 October 2022 11:26 (three years ago)

Don't you know he bought down Johnson? xp

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 October 2022 11:27 (three years ago)

lol thanks but no thanks Pete

calzino, Sunday, 2 October 2022 11:28 (three years ago)

I thought the Truss team might have done a better job of managing her brainlessness and advanced detachment from reality, but they are probably just as bad as her.

calzino, Sunday, 2 October 2022 11:45 (three years ago)

I'm not sure there's ever been a world leader as awful at doing media as Truss. Theresa May is a charismatic genius by comparison.

Zelda Zonk, Sunday, 2 October 2022 12:24 (three years ago)

The one genuinely compelling and intriguing thing about Truss in interview is her recourse to silence.

She genuinely waits after a question, says nothing, dead air.

This could actually, in theory, convey thoughtfulness, a refusal to give a glib politician's answer.

In her case it probably doesn't, though I do think it's conceivable that she is genuinely thinking, during the silences, trying to understand what has been asked, realising she can't answer it, then giving a mostly irrelevant response, after a while.

I would say something like "she is the Pinteresque PM, who makes drama from unexplained pauses" but some tedious Sunday columnist has probably already flogged this idea and been paid for it.

I suspect that handlers will try to stop her being silent. I regret this as it is, clearly, one of my favourite things about her.

the pinefox, Sunday, 2 October 2022 12:37 (three years ago)

This is the road Novara is on now.

This is Rawnsley today and it perfectly spells out everything I despise about Labour, a party standing on the decks of a ship that is not so much sinking as disintegrating rapidly around them, and proudly making a virtue out of promises not to rock the boat. pic.twitter.com/TCGTGu9Aex

— Ally Fogg (@AllyFogg) October 2, 2022

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 October 2022 12:41 (three years ago)

I will grudgingly admit May was sort of charismatic in an oddball way. But most importantly, even in Maybot mode you still got the sense that there was a thinking sentient being behind this very wooden public persona.

calzino, Sunday, 2 October 2022 12:42 (three years ago)

We're all in this together, hence the polling.

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/oct/02/uk-house-buyers-left-powerless-as-mortgage-deals-hang-in-balance

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 2 October 2022 13:26 (three years ago)

The City business partner of Jacob Rees-Mogg has been handed a peerage and job as a senior minister by Liz Truss’s government in a move likely to trigger accusations of cronyism.

More big DGAF energy

nashwan, Sunday, 2 October 2022 13:41 (three years ago)

xp was reading this and we are just starting a new term today on a rate negotiated a couple of months back - were we doing so now it’d be at least twice our revised rate. We’re lucky.

barry sito (gyac), Sunday, 2 October 2022 14:03 (three years ago)

Well what a surprise (!) and to all those who were sneering at gay & bi men something about “her previous voting record doesn’t affect her ability to be health secretary”: fuck you https://t.co/LcmeTEgCz0

— MARCUS. 🇧🇧🏳️‍🌈 (@marcusjdl) October 2, 2022

barry sito (gyac), Sunday, 2 October 2022 14:07 (three years ago)

it sounds like the 45p tax cut is about to be junked

calzino, Monday, 3 October 2022 05:30 (three years ago)

Feeling is this is for what will get her through Tory conference.

They need to come up with a package that will calm the markets and stop the housing market from going down in flames.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 October 2022 06:22 (three years ago)

"We get it" and "It was becoming a distraction" are the two messages for today.

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Monday, 3 October 2022 06:48 (three years ago)

just a bit of a messaging issue that required £65 billion of QE and funked the mortgage market and the pound, yeah carry on lads

calzino, Monday, 3 October 2022 07:00 (three years ago)

It's laughable how they think they can all say exactly the same thing, use exactly the same language, and that'll be a job well done.

Fronted by a bearded Phil Collins (Tom D.), Monday, 3 October 2022 07:07 (three years ago)

they're getting away with it though, again and again and again. The "scoop" about the champagne lunch has been met with a shrug because this is just how it is now

boxedjoy, Monday, 3 October 2022 07:37 (three years ago)

45p hardly a high top rate of tax anyway tbpfh

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 October 2022 07:42 (three years ago)

It's just headline stuff. It will get them through the week.

If mortgages stabilize I expect the polling to go back to hung parliament. It's a big if though.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 October 2022 07:44 (three years ago)

The top tax rate was 91% in the US - the US! - until 1964

Zelda Zonk, Monday, 3 October 2022 08:12 (three years ago)

slightly different subject but there's a great clip going around of david graeber explaining why massive, redistributionist tax policy is actually the best way to stimulate corporate investment. you guys probably clocked this all along but somehow it only just sank in for me with the graeber clip. low corporate tax rates mean companies can just pocket their profits. they sit on them, or hand them out as dividends, whatever. but if you know the tax man's going to take all of that, you find other things to do with it. you spend it on R&D. you pay your workers better. you spend more on brilliant PR. so fucking simple but somehow i just never put 2 and 2 together. it goes a long way towards explaining why american industry was so productive and inventive in those days.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 October 2022 08:29 (three years ago)

This is not over.

Instant response to the change of mind on the 45p rate in money markets.
Traders no longer pricing in 6% interest rates by next year. Now somewhere between 5.5% and 5.75% pic.twitter.com/WNXbWsbo0a

— Ed Conway (@EdConwaySky) October 3, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 October 2022 08:41 (three years ago)

Kwarteng confirms further cuts of up to £18bn for public services 🚨 https://t.co/V2WAYxHOa6

— The Independent (@Independent) October 3, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 3 October 2022 08:45 (three years ago)

(the "it's one for you, nineteen for me" line in the Beatles taxman is about the 95% tax for the super-rich at the time)

koogs, Monday, 3 October 2022 08:48 (three years ago)

Tory cunts

saigo no ice cream (Noodle Vague), Monday, 3 October 2022 08:49 (three years ago)

Kwarteng confirms further cuts of up to £18bn for public services

fuck, i'd missed this. which i suspect was entirely intentional. everybody's talking about the u-turn, which in fact is small potatoes next to this.

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 October 2022 08:59 (three years ago)

ed conway compares this to mitterand whose initial budgets were trashed by the markets and only survived through massive austerity programmes

Tracer Hand, Monday, 3 October 2022 09:04 (three years ago)

Guessing that unlike Mitterrand, Truss won't be around for 14 years, or even 14 weeks

Zelda Zonk, Monday, 3 October 2022 09:13 (three years ago)


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