like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

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Sounds like a lot of extra work for shops.

barry sito (gyac), Friday, 23 September 2022 10:16 (three years ago)

I wonder if it's just for the outlet malls and tourist shops, in which case I guess they are doing the forms anyway

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 23 September 2022 10:17 (three years ago)

I belive there's a stall in South London that does no income tax no VAT

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 23 September 2022 10:20 (three years ago)

A massive moment for @iealondon. They’ve been advocating these policies for years. They incubated Truss and Kwarteng during their early years as MPs. Britain is now their laboratory.

— Tim Montgomerie 🇬🇧 (@montie) September 23, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 September 2022 10:21 (three years ago)

Even if they lose the next election the regulation burning won't be reversed.

In a post-Grenfell world too.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 September 2022 10:23 (three years ago)

Susannah Streeter, senior investment and markets analyst, Hargreaves Lansdown, warns that confidence in the UK economy has faded away further following this morning’s announcements.

’Kwasi Kwarteng has set off fireworks with this budget, which collides with the Bank of England’s efforts to dampen down inflation, while sparking a firestorm of criticism about benefiting the wealthy much more than the poorer sections of society.

Scrapping the top rate of tax will return many thousands of pounds to high earners, while lifting the cap on bankers’ bonuses is likely to be hard to swallow for low paid workers on the picket lines, calling for pay rises to help them survive the cost of living crisis.

Streeter warns that Liz Truss’s policies could crash and burn, particularly if government borrowing costs soar further (they’ve already surged alarmingly today).

There are signs that buyers of UK government bonds are becoming even more nervous about the government’s ‘splash the cash’ policies, given the mounting debt pile.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 September 2022 10:27 (three years ago)

She's going to try to build a giant Amazon fulfillment center on Dartmoor, isn't she? https://t.co/h91I0MPnER

— James B (@piercepenniless) September 23, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 September 2022 10:30 (three years ago)

GMB: Jobs, jobs, jobs!

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 September 2022 10:30 (three years ago)

Always another perspective

Great to see sterling strengthening on the back of the new UK Growth Plan https://t.co/Ec8tgXkgKd

— Chris Philp (@CPhilpOfficial) September 23, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 September 2022 11:08 (three years ago)

One of the clowns who got comprehensively and embarrassingly pwned by Mick Lynch iirc.

Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Friday, 23 September 2022 11:13 (three years ago)

The Treasury no longer seems to know the difference between unemployment ('jobseekers') and economic inactivity. pic.twitter.com/NcO40FXlhv

— Declan Gaffney (@djmgaffneyw4) September 23, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 September 2022 11:37 (three years ago)

Here is a thing on the tourist shop scheme

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/sep/23/british-retailers-welcome-planned-return-vat-free-shopping-tourists

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 September 2022 12:07 (three years ago)

I don’t get how that’s different from how it is atm

barry sito (gyac), Friday, 23 September 2022 12:09 (three years ago)

sounds like the scheme was cancelled at some point in the last 5 years - if so, it's the first I've heard of it.

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 23 September 2022 12:30 (three years ago)

one bit of good news amidst all the awful shit:

Kwasi Kwarteng looks likely to lift a de facto ban on new onshore windfarms after the government said it would bring planning consent into line with that for other infrastructure.

It has been very difficult for onshore windfarms to get planning permission since David Cameron put in place a tough consent regime in 2015. Earlier this year Kwarteng pushed for the restrictions to be lifted but he encountered cabinet opposition.

The regime will now be loosened, with the chancellor’s growth plan stating:

The government will unlock the potential of onshore wind by bringing consenting in line with other infrastructure. The UK is a world leader in offshore wind, with 8GW of offshore wind currently under construction. By 2023 the government is set to increase renewables capacity by 15%, supporting the UK’s commitment to reach net zero emissions by 2050.

Although the government has trumpeted its decision to allow firms to explore fracking further, few experts think it is likely to produce much gas in the near future. Unblocking the potential for onshore wind projects could be a much quicker and more productive way of boosting electricity supplies and helping to bring down prices.

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Friday, 23 September 2022 12:31 (three years ago)

Reeves on the PM + Chancellor "two desperate gamblers in a casino who have run out of ideas". What a crap analogy, no gambler in a casino has ever run out of ideas. Even if they decide to go home rather than hitting the blackjack, then that is an idea.

calzino, Friday, 23 September 2022 16:09 (three years ago)

A nasty slur. The Mexican peso is up 20% against sterling this year. https://t.co/ucz5tvrjnR

— Paul McNamara (@M_PaulMcNamara) September 23, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 September 2022 16:15 (three years ago)

looks like the fiscal event has led to a monetary event

Tracer Hand, Friday, 23 September 2022 16:22 (three years ago)

Looking forward to Reeves not reversing any of this when Labour humps its way thru a minority government with support from plastic bag tax murderers

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 September 2022 16:30 (three years ago)

I hate how everyone is using the word gamble. Including this piece, which is otherwise ok.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/23/kwasi-kwarteng-tax-giveaway-huge-gamble

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 September 2022 16:32 (three years ago)

The fucking pundit class, the fucking economist class, it is very important they pretend to take Kwarteng at his word that this stuff is intended to benefit "the economy" and not a bunch of plutocrat rentier clients

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 September 2022 16:36 (three years ago)

This is...

Golly.
Markets are now pricing in 5.5% interest rates from the @bankofengland next year.
Up from 4.75% yesterday.
Deutsche Bank saying BoE may need to table an emergency rate hike as soon as next week.
Extraordinary.
And, as I said yday, higher rates are a big, big deal.
Ugh. https://t.co/zaIhLY5xHI

— Ed Conway (@EdConwaySky) September 23, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 23 September 2022 16:37 (three years ago)

This is why big brained voters don't trust the other parties on the economy

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 September 2022 16:39 (three years ago)

looking forward to this story being widely reported in the british press

Al Jazeera’s @AJIUnit has obtained the largest leak in British political history, exposing how unelected Labour Party officials smear and intimidate rivals.

Members supportive of Jeremy Corbyn were undermined by party bureaucrats. #LabourFiles

👉 https://t.co/vtr3hzHzfu pic.twitter.com/SGqbejDz83

— Al Jazeera English (@AJEnglish) September 23, 2022

manic pixie dream shatner (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 23 September 2022 18:50 (three years ago)

already tired of them going on and on about it

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 23 September 2022 18:51 (three years ago)

Looking forward to Reeves not reversing any of this

Sources in Labour's Treasury team say they want to look at the OBR forecasts before deciding whether to promise to reverse the additional 45p rate.

In other words, under current plans, this ain't happening any time soon

— Sam Coates Sky (@SamCoatesSky) September 23, 2022

stet, Friday, 23 September 2022 20:06 (three years ago)

Everyone slags off entryism, but the Revolutionary Communist Party have managed to engineer the collapse of British capitalism so who's laughing now

— Read Patriarchy and Accumulation (@DecolAutonomism) September 23, 2022

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 24 September 2022 08:56 (three years ago)

Keir Starmer@Keir_Starmer

Tory casino economics is gambling the mortgages and finances of every family in the country.

oh do fuck off. This move further towards neo-feudalism is nothing to do with gambling. This post (like Kieth) was sponsored by bet 365. Anyway I'd much rather go to a "funhouse" and lose loads of dosh on roulette whilst eating free sandwiches than attend a fucking Labour conference.

calzino, Saturday, 24 September 2022 10:34 (three years ago)

Betfred, Sir LOTO’s y/n

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Saturday, 24 September 2022 10:44 (three years ago)

he almost makes it sound noble, like the Tories are risking it all in a desperate bid to 'save' the country

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 24 September 2022 10:47 (three years ago)

there is no gamble going on here whatsoever - these policies are locking in the certainty of the rich getting richer. that's all.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 24 September 2022 10:47 (three years ago)

god i hate him so much

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 24 September 2022 10:48 (three years ago)

Looking forward to Mick Lynch returning to our TV screens to excoriate these evil morons.

Narada Michael Fagan (Tom D.), Saturday, 24 September 2022 10:56 (three years ago)

I briefly put HIGNFY on last night and saw Mick on there, they were making loads of jokes about him "bringing the country to a standstill", must remember never to put that on again.

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 24 September 2022 10:58 (three years ago)

if the Tories are gambling, Kier, what are you doing?

Gordon fucking Brown's got more interesting ideas than you've got
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/sep/22/labour-considering-abolishing-house-of-lords-if-it-wins-next-election-leaked-report-reveals

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 24 September 2022 11:00 (three years ago)

I've just not seen a better summary of yesterday than this tweet.

perhaps it's the British genius for compromise that means we can progress to Pinochet's economics without all that herding people into football stadiums

— jamie k (@jkbloodtreasure) September 23, 2022

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 24 September 2022 11:33 (three years ago)

Imagine the scenes if Labour demonised this budget, called it fascist economics etc.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 24 September 2022 11:38 (three years ago)

I miss John McDonnell, just sayin’.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Saturday, 24 September 2022 16:13 (three years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fdb_6LnWQAAGFBM?format=jpg&name=large

I already knew I'd never vote for them again in my lifetime, but they are very effective at ironing out all the very slight ambiguities involved in making this decision.

calzino, Saturday, 24 September 2022 22:48 (three years ago)

lol yeah it's like every time you think for half a second "but the Tories..." Starmer announces a new policy to torture baby ducks or something

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 24 September 2022 23:15 (three years ago)

Let's all sing
God Save The King
And after we do
The voters will swing

I've seen things you people wouldn't belieeeeeeve!!! (Matt #2), Saturday, 24 September 2022 23:19 (three years ago)

pic.twitter.com/QSj9UpDLpM

— Simon Hedges (@Orwell_Fan) September 25, 2022

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 25 September 2022 11:48 (three years ago)

(I feel regret for Sunak in terms of how he might feel regarding what he would have done differently and the difference it could have made.)

youn, Sunday, 25 September 2022 14:43 (three years ago)

I don't think the grasping little toerag could have done anything to win over the membership, he was too much of a continuity candidate. Not that he didn't try.

calzino, Sunday, 25 September 2022 14:49 (three years ago)

(I get the impression that Truss's economic policies do not make sense for the UK or for global economics.)

youn, Sunday, 25 September 2022 14:51 (three years ago)

(1/10) The broadcast version of episode 2 of #LabourFiles on Labour's 'antisemitism crisis' has some good stuff but lacks a coherent narrative and leaves out the Panorama documentary and EHRC report. This thread details what's in the longer online version. https://t.co/B87vvGYp2S

— Heather Mendick (@helensclegel) September 25, 2022

nashwan, Sunday, 25 September 2022 14:55 (three years ago)

xp

the government's policies make absolute sense, the aim is to transfer as much money, public and otherwise, to themselves and the wealthy people who support them

talk about a gamble or a risk is a figleaf that dishonest politicians and dishonest journalists are using to pretend this isn't the case

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 25 September 2022 15:51 (three years ago)

and that's just before we consider whether shorting the pound is a deliberate strategy to further enrich these people (hint: it is)

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 25 September 2022 15:52 (three years ago)

i do sort of feel that it's more about implementing an ideology rather than a pure cash grab but same difference i guess

o shit the sheriff (NickB), Sunday, 25 September 2022 16:02 (three years ago)

they are one and the same

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 25 September 2022 16:51 (three years ago)


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