queen elizabeth II

Michelle Donelan, the culture secretary, tells Times Radio that 250,000 people saw the Queen lie in state – not a final figure but would be less than the 300,000 who saw her father George VI (and significantly less than Whitehall estimates)

— Patrick Maguire (@patrickkmaguire) September 20, 2022

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I’m obsessed with this what the hell happened @itvnews pic.twitter.com/uu2ONYoktW

— an ancient man (@goulcher) September 19, 2022

(xp) Third place and half of those (at least) were tourists.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/09/20/250000-people-went-queue-see-queen-lying-in-state/

It’s fewer than the number of people who’ve seen Everton play this season (ok, not necessarily 250k *different* ppl). You also have to wait 10 hours for a “moment of transcendence” there too.

It's kind of like football pundits who don't seem to realize football existed before the English Premiership.

There could be marches against this government that'll top these numbers.

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There could be marches against this government that'll top these numbers.

― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, September 20, 2022 2:54 AM (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yes I'm a yank, but I think this is what is so depressing for me as an observer of any spectacle like this— so many people willing to waste their fucking time to look at a drive-by corpse, essentially, and yet you ask them to take to those same streets to demand better conditions for living and thriving and they look at you like you've lost your mind. Just horrible.

it's too many people, but in terms of the queue it really wasn't that many people

ALso, you didn't even see the dead body, just a box!

They could have doubled the queue numbers if they just cut off a finger and waved it around to the crowd

they certainly took organisational steps to make the queue look as impressive and newsworthy as possible, and even then the high end estimates are that less people queued than, say, attend a weekend of Premier League football matches

the body isn't even in the box! you could have had a box in every city! if yr gnna resurrect the medieval mindset unleach the miraculous proliferation of relics!

fragments of the true queen

a figure in every parish, an ovary for every cathedral

The James Bond movie should be about a gang of baddies who exhume the Queen to use her bones to power a secret satellite ray

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Actually strikes have had a favourable reception with the public. Maybe not the majority of people in the queue but these numbers are, in the end, tiny.

This was v well put.

japan wildly surpassing the british rn pic.twitter.com/7trEFTcMrp

— worms cited (@christapeterso) September 20, 2022

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― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 bookmarkflaglink

Anything to defend your lady, huh?

Japan being a country prone to social pressure to conform, unlike the freethinking, individualistic United oh never mind

Anything to defend your lady, huh?

since you suggested it first your retort sounds to me like a classic case of 'projection'.

Man accused of attempting to grab at the Queen’s coffin 'did not believe she was dead,' court hears

“The defendant did express the idea that the Queen is not dead and that he approached the coffin because he wanted to check for himself,” said Mr Staton.

lol, words have consequences mark

One more thing you don't understand xp

Can you go easy on him please, he’s not even at his best in politics threads for the actual country he lives in

oh, fuck off gyac. you keep trying to treat me like your whipping boy but whips don't work via electrons. you might not believe it but you often come across as an extremely bitter, nasty person. I'm willing to think that the odds are that's only a superficial and selective reading of who you really are. I ask grant me that same understanding. because in reality you know fuck all about me.

man accused of attempting to grab at the queen’s coffin otm

xp idk fella, if I’d mocked someone’s mental illness after being told that was the context of their post, I’d get off the old high horse, but not you!

Aimless aren't you embarrassed to have posted a defence of the monarchy last week and then log off when you were told your lady was up to no good? Think we'd forget did you?

Aimless aren't you embarrassed to have posted a defence of the monarchy last week

Oh, you mean the defense where I called the monarchy "pathological"? Why would I be embarrassed about something I did not do, just because you misremember it and then mislabel it?

you did post the old "harmless figurehead" defence, which is completely clueless and embarrassing tbf.

Yeah cmon man you showed your arse there, maybe ppl are missing some actual point to your “fine idea” (I know I am) but it hardly takes alphian bad faith to reach the conclusion you are at it

I mean, I'm sure some people cried when Richard Nixon died.

Professional impressionists maybe

The old bag was on the throne for 70 years and every single media outlet in the UK was hellbent on whipping up nationalistic fervour - and was given 10 days to do so - and yet the numbers don't compare to a mere commoner like Churchill. Good.

you did post the old "harmless figurehead" defence, which is completely clueless and embarrassing tbf.

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Aimless tried to separate the Monarchy and The Queen in a pathetic attempt at nuance.

Then gyac actually posted some articles (when laughter was all that deserved) and the guy stopped posting for a week. Now he's got the nerve to come back for more!

was churchill a commoner? he was the grandson of the 7th duke of marlborough so he was definitely aristocracy-adjacent

Sat in the Commons though.

lol yes i had gradually crawled my way round to this hard-to-deny counterargument

viscount stansgate ruined it for everyone, left the commons lousy with self-demoted lords

Then gyac actually posted some articles (...) and the guy stopped posting for a week. Now he's got the nerve to come back for more!

Your version is wrong, but accurately reflects your prejudice against me. It was Zelda Zonk, not gyac, who posted about some of the more egregious sins that Eliz II committed. Zelda was responding to what I said, not who she presumed me to be, and thus was being helpful. I took it in that spirit, agreed my perspective was wrong, and dropped it.

As for my 'coming back for more', it simply emphasizes that your reflexive response to me is to abuse me simply for quoting you and agreeing. I recognize this as bullying and I find it as off-putting as it is meant to be. So, your strategy is working just fine. I'm sure this will gratify you.

He’s referring to this post.

Gyac posted a few links. Zelda did also respectfully respond, maybe they don't know your posts xp

maybe they don't know your posts

since your memory seems to rewrite my posts to fit your preconceptions, perhaps you are the wrong person to consult on this

I recognize this as bullying and I find it as off-putting as it is meant to be. So, your strategy is working just fine. I'm sure this will gratify you.

― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 bookmarkflaglink

We have a saying in this country. It is as follows: "Chat shit get banged". Study it.

and a lovely country it is, too

We have an expression in America. It is as follows: "Shit, cat. It don't make a difference."

and a lovely country it is, too

lol

Queens funeral isn’t sad if you put “Life is a Highway” behind it pic.twitter.com/aSnfnoZmEo

— Brent Albrecht (@Radio_Brent) September 19, 2022

it's hardly bullying, more like you came back to shit on a thread where you'd previously shown your ignorance and made an arse of yourself. And not just shit on the thread but also trying to defend the stupid fucking senseless post you made in the first place!

thx for the input, calz

no probs.