Last episode significantly improved by the lack of the O'Harfoots, too.
The three of us kept waiting for that shoe to drop and were at least relieved that didn't happen here.
Without patting myself TOO much on the back, my thread seems to have taken off among a number of readers/fans/watchers in the wider community. From the sound of it there's not much talk about these kinds of issues precisely because so much of what IS out there discourse-wise is racist bullshit.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 September 2022 16:01 (three years ago)
I also have this sense that the showrunners and writers really were trying their level best. There's an earnestness to all of it that doesn't seem like phoning it in, but you can tell that they're not experienced at this.
Well famously the two showrunners, who are indeed comparatively young, have never done anything like this before and barely have any credits! I honestly think this was just networking triumphing since they'd worked with JJ Abrams. The results are as we see them.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 18 September 2022 16:02 (three years ago)
it’s really just astonishing. how the fuck can you commission something this expensive from such beginners. i mean you could get lucky i guess? but like… welcome to the big leagues, amazon. making a good show is hard
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 18 September 2022 17:54 (three years ago)
It's not that weird. One of the GoT showrunners had no credits before that show either. Producers want new talent who are available for a long time commitment. Screenwriters may have several lauded scripts that have never been produced, showcasing their talent.
― abcfsk, Sunday, 18 September 2022 19:45 (three years ago)
The writers room is very experienced. So are the directors.
― abcfsk, Sunday, 18 September 2022 19:46 (three years ago)
ah okay.
― Tracer Hand, Sunday, 18 September 2022 20:38 (three years ago)
I don’t think I’d use the GoT producers as evidence of that being a good idea
― mh, Monday, 19 September 2022 01:56 (three years ago)
gives us a clue where the story's going with galadriel
― mark s, Monday, 19 September 2022 09:30 (three years ago)
I do like that the dawrf king in this is played by Peter Mullan, while his old mucker Paddy Considine plays the king in House of Dragons.
― Andrew Farrell, Monday, 19 September 2022 11:06 (three years ago)
My cohost Jared has some good thoughts on the series (free to read)
https://www.patreon.com/posts/just-some-guy-in-72248227
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 18:12 (three years ago)
the line "the sea is always right" is a simply moronic phrase and however seriously i was taking this show, it declined by half after i heard that
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 18:30 (three years ago)
the aquatic disagreer has logged on
― mh, Tuesday, 20 September 2022 21:05 (three years ago)
"the sea is sometimes right"
― comedy khadafi (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 21:19 (three years ago)
the sea googles a lot of stuff
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 20 September 2022 21:32 (three years ago)
From Ned's co-host:
He lets go of a rope and gets fired, along with his friends. That’s basically his first real scene.
Excuse me, I think you'll find that his first scene is exactly the same one week earlier.
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 06:57 (three years ago)
meanwhile the sea supports me in email
― mark s, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 10:15 (three years ago)
the sky is always wrong
― Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 21 September 2022 13:40 (three years ago)
the earth is somewhere in the middle
― scanner darkly, Wednesday, 21 September 2022 20:21 (three years ago)
I am truly impressed at how just off and weird and ridiculous this show gets episode for episode. Astounding in its breathtaking foolishness.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 September 2022 04:55 (three years ago)
thought i was in the drag race thread for a second
― scanner darkly, Friday, 23 September 2022 05:32 (three years ago)
Roffle.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 23 September 2022 13:25 (three years ago)
Jesus the song and montages..
― ian, Saturday, 24 September 2022 02:01 (three years ago)
Elvish has left the building
― i eat ass with a knife and fork (Neanderthal), Saturday, 24 September 2022 02:02 (three years ago)
How is the show doing in the wider world? Is it a hit?
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Saturday, 24 September 2022 02:35 (three years ago)
This show is unbelievably boring. I’m out.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Saturday, 24 September 2022 19:00 (three years ago)
i enjoy the durin / elrond stuff, i think those two actors have good chemistry & have slightly better story/dialogue to work with i find the galadriel stuff the biggest slog it seems like its pure exposition & endless indicating & ugh i get deeply bored by that
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 September 2022 20:08 (three years ago)
it's indicating that galadriel needs to find three dragon eggs p damn soon
― mark s, Saturday, 24 September 2022 20:18 (three years ago)
or else one of her dullard swordplay pupils runs her through bcz of clumsiness
― mark s, Saturday, 24 September 2022 20:19 (three years ago)
still low-key enjoying the competition for most insufferable: elendil vs gil galad
― mark s, Saturday, 24 September 2022 20:26 (three years ago)
'we have reason to suspect a passing brigand"
how is this middle-earth's major sea power
― mark s, Saturday, 24 September 2022 20:43 (three years ago)
well THAT was a fucking trudge
― mark s, Saturday, 24 September 2022 21:11 (three years ago)
This thing looks good (still) but I'm beginning to lose interest.
― SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Saturday, 24 September 2022 21:12 (three years ago)
The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power *(Rings Not Included in this Series)
― mark s, Saturday, 24 September 2022 21:15 (three years ago)
'we have reason to suspect a passing brigand"= hark a vagrant
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 September 2022 21:54 (three years ago)
instant classic
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 24 September 2022 21:59 (three years ago)
i’ve seen the first three minutes or so of the first episode and that was enuf for me
― Tracer Hand, Saturday, 24 September 2022 22:00 (three years ago)
A cut towards the end between Gil-Galad and Halbrand, both full of dark, boring, secrets.
I also regret to inform you I've remembered who Isildur reminds me of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PIh2xe4jnpk
― Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 24 September 2022 23:18 (three years ago)
lol
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 24 September 2022 23:44 (three years ago)
We at the podcast have taken all this under advisement. (We record our first episode since the series started tomorrow. I suspect we will be somewhat sweary.)
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 September 2022 00:01 (three years ago)
so i dremt there was a big ilx conference dedicated to predicting what was going to be in each ep of every coming series of the benighted and dumm elf show
i will not share with you many of the details of this dream (it was a big ilx conference, it was superficially friendly but also panicked and dorky and paid the highest poster attention to the wrong detail; also i was not really paying attention to my own dream tbrr)
but i will say THIS: someone at this conference proved by science (printing out their own tweets) that there would be an entire episode that was just a tom bombadil song and this better happen or like, fvck everything
― mark s, Sunday, 25 September 2022 09:18 (three years ago)
Hahah a true vision.
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 25 September 2022 13:17 (three years ago)
I pledge myself to you, Sauron!You’re Sauron, right?*guy on screen doing the same grasping at straws as feckless viewers*
― mh, Sunday, 25 September 2022 14:17 (three years ago)
also that guy appeared to be called baldrick
― mark s, Sunday, 25 September 2022 14:23 (three years ago)
Waldreg according to the subtitles that I have on for an ever-increasing amount of the stuff I watch - it did raise the question of what percentage of the giant orc armies are just dudes in orc-like masks, like Joker henchmen.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 25 September 2022 14:28 (three years ago)
Also amused that between Celebrimbor and Kemen Kevin we're getting old and young Michael Palin.
― Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 25 September 2022 14:36 (three years ago)
haradwaith with michael palin
― mark s, Sunday, 25 September 2022 14:41 (three years ago)
Isildur just seems woefully miscast, no matter how young he’s meant to be.
― Tsar Bombadil (James Morrison), Monday, 26 September 2022 01:56 (three years ago)
I think the proximate problem is not so much that’s he’s miscast (although he might be) as that he’s not a good actor?
The guy playing ser christon Cole in the dragon thing would be better.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 26 September 2022 02:35 (three years ago)
what is the collective noun for SAURONS? a thrakatulûk of saurons
anyway so far we have at least five (not enough)
1: halbrand! evidence: association with southlands, shitty behaviour on the raft, currently in numenor and abt to take a controlling role in a naval enterprise to the glory of ar-pharazon (as he isn't yet known) 2: adar aka oren!evidence: terrible skin, orc boss, moody, gothy, baldrick thinks he's sauron 3: yung gandalf!evidence: actually can't be gandalf if you go by some "official" timelines, ice magic, ambiguous conversation with nori, it's kind of boring if he's just gandalf hobbit-pal 4: the creepy elf-looking dude examining the crater! evidence: when we saw him in the promo everyone turned to their date and said "that's yung sauron" (but i think it's yung saruman)5: theo!evidence: haircut with the swagger of the stone roses, carries that thing around
― mark s, Monday, 26 September 2022 13:18 (three years ago)
It turns out that Sauron was *us* all along
― feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Monday, 26 September 2022 17:17 (three years ago)