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Kwasi Kwarteng seeks to scrap bankers’ bonus cap to boost City https://t.co/cfput5N2hZ

— Financial Times (@FT) September 14, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 15 September 2022 13:00 (three years ago)

If you’ve been following the case you might not know that this week Chris Kaba’s cousin @JeffersonBosela has handed in his resignation in his role as a teacher and head of year, so he has time to raise awareness and campaign about what happened. His students sent him these: pic.twitter.com/xreTC8FHII

— Hannah Price (@HannahPrice___) September 15, 2022

some wonderful children here

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Thursday, 15 September 2022 14:02 (three years ago)

This is the greatest country in the world.

— Ian Austin (@LordIanAustin) September 14, 2022

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 15 September 2022 22:10 (three years ago)

NHS staff to walk in front of Queen's coffin at state funeral.

An appalling decision, this idolisation of an overrated healthcare system needs to stop.

— Chris Rose (@ArchRose90) September 15, 2022

seen a couple of posts like this. am guessing that was the queen's idea which he's criticizing.

koogs, Friday, 16 September 2022 04:12 (three years ago)

It's just to make sure the crowds clap.

Mark G, Friday, 16 September 2022 07:17 (three years ago)

I don't know why I tried to find a joke about The clap in your reply

StanM, Friday, 16 September 2022 08:40 (three years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FcxAEoiWIAE92uy?format=jpg&name=large

You can be pro Jack Monroe or you can be anti Jack Monroe, but what you can't do is ignore the fact that Jack Monroe once began a recipe by telling you to put a tin of baked beans in a sieve and wash the sauce off them under the tap

— t_om_s (@T_om_s) September 16, 2022

this grift is so good for her. Corbyn was going to scrap UC and JM didn't approve of his leadership or politics. It might have interrupted the grift and the lousy - worse than eating bin food - recipes from hell.

calzino, Friday, 16 September 2022 11:59 (three years ago)

He starts walking this non-fact back immediately, just saying.

Also she's pretty firmly pro- his policies as far as I can tell?

https://inews.co.uk/news/uk/jackmonroeuniversalcredit-101055

Le grand sigh.

1. A large number of people in receipt of Universal Credit work.

2. Additional work payments are then deducted from UC payments, so ‘washing a car for £20’ doesn’t actually improve your income in any way whatsoever.

3. All TVs are flatscreen in the year 2021.

— Jack Monroe 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍🌈 (@BootstrapCook) October 6, 2021

She's not done herself any favours this week, but I think she does more good than harm on balance.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 16 September 2022 13:20 (three years ago)

what's the non-fact? that it was spaghetti hoops rather than baked beans in the recipe? Lot's of the melts who were calling for Corbyn to step down during the chicken coup (and I'm almost certain JM was one of them) claim to have a care about the damage UC is doing to people. But they won't back a leader who pledges to scrap it. No it just needs a cosmetic re-brand and a little bit of tinkering around the edges.

calzino, Friday, 16 September 2022 13:29 (three years ago)

She took against him (him personally, as far as I can tell) and later recanted, much to the chagrin of the JC.

https://www.thejc.com/comment/opinion/trump-and-corbyn-are-both-now-leaders-of-losers-cults-1.510980

But as I say she's had a shocker of a week, I should probably not knee-jerked so much - we should all recuperate our energies over the weekend to increase our chances of making it through Monday!

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 16 September 2022 13:44 (three years ago)

these days I'm not that inconsolably irate by all my 2015-19 grudges against the moderates and Labour Right apologists who all did their bit to ensure nothing ever changes. Mainly because I've given up registering to vote and accept that life is going to be increasingly precarious during the rest of my life, barring a lottery win. But I'm not dropping them entirely. JM had no choice but to recant, otherwise their position as an anti-food poverty would have become untenable imo.

calzino, Friday, 16 September 2022 14:02 (three years ago)

campaigner

calzino, Friday, 16 September 2022 14:03 (three years ago)

i don't think Monroe deserves a full blown ruthless pile-on but it certainly makes my eyes roll hard to see somebody doing the Bono shuffle, and it diminshes your work when you're so strongly selling your brand imo

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 September 2022 16:27 (three years ago)

boasting about hobnobbing with google MD's and meeting a 100 CEO's isn't a very wise brand to present on a social media account of someone who is a self-styled campaigner for the worst off in society. How to get ahead while losing all perspective and credibility in one post. It just sort of confirms that JM is New Labour to the core imo. Because otherwise she'd fully understand why there is so much heavy eyerolling and cynicism in the replies.

calzino, Friday, 16 September 2022 17:13 (three years ago)

going on begging missions for corporate charity whilst enjoying some good chow is a good life though

calzino, Friday, 16 September 2022 17:16 (three years ago)

nah mate i couldn't agree more i guess i'm just saying she made half an ounce more effort than other grifters

still solidly grifting

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 September 2022 17:21 (three years ago)

I meant her post here, not yours just in case you took it that way!

calzino, Friday, 16 September 2022 17:50 (three years ago)

nah i knew what you meant <3

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 September 2022 17:51 (three years ago)

god two "nah"s on the bounce sorry for my drinky fake vernacular

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 September 2022 17:52 (three years ago)

anyway she bad yes but bigger fish, i don't feel less about her this week than i ever have

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 September 2022 17:52 (three years ago)

yeah it's pretty so so really. I'm going get back into some mourning for the dead squab I found in my garden this aft, the poor wee creature didn't get no lying-in-state. Just straight into a bin bag and wanged in the bin. Although I'd be quite happy for the same!

calzino, Friday, 16 September 2022 18:05 (three years ago)

i'm surprised more of the daytime tv ads preying on oldies watching A Touch of Frost don't offer a bin bag fly tipping option

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 September 2022 18:08 (three years ago)

might need a couple of years of famine or another prolonged civil war until softy softy UK people become inured to the idea of fly tipping corpses! I have only been to one open coffin funeral and felt so squeamish about it all. They should incinerate your earthly remains and make a Mao style waxwork of you if it has to be open coffin imo.

calzino, Friday, 16 September 2022 18:30 (three years ago)

I didn't mean a waxwork of Mao ftr, but actually that would be hilarious

calzino, Friday, 16 September 2022 18:33 (three years ago)

i wasn't even allowed to go to funerals as a kid, it was only as an adult with Irish in-laws i got the full funeral experience. i'm all for longboat shot full of fire arrows tbh, but the older i get the more i think it's nowt to do with me cos i'll be the only one at the ceremony that's not really there

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 September 2022 18:34 (three years ago)

oh yeah my Irish mum loves open coffin funerals. She took a few photos of my great auntie Violet lying in her coffin, in Dublin. She felt I should see these photos because I didn't attend the funeral. Cheers mum!

calzino, Friday, 16 September 2022 18:38 (three years ago)

skinful of Jameson's with Americans you've never met in person is also a bonus

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 September 2022 18:42 (three years ago)

One of my uncle's had a humanist funeral, because of what the Christian Brothers did to him in 50's Ireland he had some major Catholicism issues. But it was still an open coffin and he was buried in his leather jacket with a can of Tennents Super in his side pocket. That's about as rock n roll a funeral has ever got for me.

calzino, Friday, 16 September 2022 19:01 (three years ago)

<3

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 September 2022 19:03 (three years ago)

i used to have a whole thing about "tunes i want playing at the funeral" but fuck, if i dies, i dies

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Friday, 16 September 2022 19:03 (three years ago)

“he had only one request, that this playlist be played at his funeral. it’s called.. let me see… ‘sex music’”

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 17 September 2022 07:07 (three years ago)

[HudMo intensifies]

Vance Vance Devolution (sic), Saturday, 17 September 2022 08:05 (three years ago)

How long covid, the destruction of the NHS and the war on migrants are shaping the economy.

https://www.ft.com/content/dd53fb50-2f6d-4fd4-b03a-2f9226e4d72f?

Where are all the workers? This is, increasingly, a puzzle. On the face of it, it’s good news that the unemployment rate is still falling — it’s just hit a 48-year low in Britain.

But this obscures something less positive: increasing numbers of people are dropping out of the labour market altogether.

The jobs “miracle” was routinely trumpeted by Boris Johnson’s government, and it’s certainly a good time to be a plumber, or a teenager who can pull a pint. There are still as many posts vacant as there are people looking for work, despite employers having scaled back a bit as the economy has got choppier. But the strains are taking their toll: baggage is piling up at airports, while builders and architects are closing their books to new contracts. Some executives I speak to are almost praying for a recession.

The latest figures from the Office for National Statistics show that, astonishingly, despite the cost of living crisis, average weekly hours worked are still not back at their pre-pandemic levels. In the three months to July, there was a small fall in overall employment.

It turns out that the new low in unemployment is not because more 16- to-65-year-olds are in a job. It’s because more people are not seeking work. The rate of economic inactivity has hit a six-year high of 21.7 per cent. That’s partly because some students have prolonged their education through the ravages of the pandemic. But it’s mainly because hundreds of thousands of people in their 50s and 60s now have a long-term illness, which, according to the ONS, is a record.

It is hard to escape the conclusion that the NHS backlog must now be having a direct and devastating impact on the labour force. Long Covid is also afflicting what may be, according to some estimates, as many as 1.5mn people in the UK, and between 10 and 20 per cent of those who have had Covid.

Yet the kind of urgency we saw from governments in combating Covid itself seems to be totally lacking when it comes to its after-effects. Policymakers seem to hope that long Covid will just go away. But anyone who has suffered from it, or knows someone with it, knows that this condition can be crippling — and that research is urgently needed.

The number of people needing hospitalisation in the pandemic was always going to cause havoc afterwards. But while we have seen this week that queuing is our national pastime, there is nothing charming about having to queue for basic healthcare.

People who put off seeking medical help during the Covid crisis are now sicker than they should have been. Those whose operations keep being postponed are losing hope. The number of people paying to go private is soaring; others are trapped in quiet desperation.

This should worry ministers — not only because it is an absolute outrage, but also because 50-somethings rarely ever return to work once they have retired. Their disappearance can only be adding to the inflationary pressures in the economy which are fuelled by the tight labour market.

In this unusual situation, the phrase “unemployment” feels rather unsatisfactory. It usually makes sense to measure the number of people who don’t have a job but would like one, and to exclude those of working age who aren’t looking. These tend to be students, homemakers and those caring for elderly relatives.

But if large numbers have been made incapable by failures in healthcare, that feels like a different matter. It makes the strict measure of unemployment a less accurate reflection of spare labour capacity.

The exodus of European nationals since Brexit hasn’t helped, especially in sectors which had previously been heavily reliant on EU labour and are finding it hard to adjust. The National Farmers Union has complained persuasively about fruit and vegetables rotting in the fields.

A detailed analysis last month, by the Migration Observatory at Oxford university, found that many low wage sectors — including social care, construction and hospitality — are struggling to adapt to the end of free movement from the EU. Even in sectors like construction, which are eligible for skilled work visas, there has been low take-up.

Britain is not the only country with low unemployment and unfilled vacancies. In terms of overall immigration, the entry of non-EU arrivals from 2019 to 2021 has largely offset the number of EU workers who have been lost. However these non-EU staff tend to be in higher skilled jobs, according to the Migration Observatory, so are not substituting for lost EU staff on a one to one basis.

One key Brexit objective was to end the undercutting of wages by migrant labour in low pay industries, and to raise productivity. But it may be that the crackdown on visas for workers in low-wage sectors has gone too far.

The Migration Observatory says that employers are reducing output. I have certainly met restaurateurs who say they are having to close several days a week for lack of staff, despite customer demand.

Until the pandemic struck, economic inactivity had been on a downward trend. Universal credit changed the benefits system to make work pay, and to get people off long-term sickness benefits wherever that was possible. It would be terrible if we were now congratulating ourselves on low unemployment, while actually keeping people unnecessarily out of work.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 18 September 2022 09:50 (three years ago)

Only so many workers that can be exploited for so long. But telling industries to pay more isn't something that will happen either. Hence the prayer for recession.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 18 September 2022 09:54 (three years ago)

Also amazing how the desire to destroy free healthcare is having an effect. When you can't mend workers they can't go back to work. Throw in something not well known and add the stop on migration. A lot of it is self-inflicted. But it's not like capitalists know what they are doing.

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 18 September 2022 09:58 (three years ago)

OTM

Nobody can handle nipples like Bobo (Tom D.), Sunday, 18 September 2022 10:10 (three years ago)

much of this is the unraveling of the bismarckian project of empire, which from roughly the 40s -- as a response to various social-political threats, during and after the wqr -- evolved in the centre to feed, clothe, educate and keep fit the larger working population, with the left's version of this uneasily overlapping (attlee wasn't an anti-imperialist by any means). it was never really a leftwing achievement: more like the left making the best of a contradictory business when it was able to grasp the levers for a while…

it's a half-century project of dismantlement which the tolerated centre-left has busily fallen in with, on the promise of a shift towards the unburdened market delivering all these same elements: obviousaly the market has waxed and waned (rarely if ever in the uk at the behest of uk govt activites and decisions). hitching a ride for most of that time on the coat-tails of the EU's planned projects helped protect certain post-war soc-dem shibboleths also, even when our own political establishment was increasingly eager and/resigned to removing them or anyway countering them.

all gone now lol.

mark s, Sunday, 18 September 2022 10:34 (three years ago)

I know all about this by the way, I've been waiting since February for a (not that) minor operation. The first attempt at a medical intervention was last November, which didn't work, having waited for four or five months for it, so the whole saga has been going on for over a year. PLUS I've been waiting to get my ears tested for so long my hearing is actually OK again!

Nobody can handle nipples like Bobo (Tom D.), Sunday, 18 September 2022 11:49 (three years ago)

Also I was advised to self refer over possible arthritis in my feet in Summer 2021 and I've never heard anything about it since. Blah blah blah, tiny violin but...

Nobody can handle nipples like Bobo (Tom D.), Sunday, 18 September 2022 11:51 (three years ago)

best of luck with this tom, it is such a lottery

i wrote a snail-mail letter to my heart specialist a couple of months back, after not hearing abt a supposedly rescheduled appointment for 8 months -- which does in fact seem to have worked, i see him in november (11 months after scheduled appointment) (we shall see if i actally do see him)

mark s, Sunday, 18 September 2022 12:00 (three years ago)

it took me 7 months to get a phone appointment with the neuro epilepsy clinic about an important medication issue, and then I was told I would need to speak to a different specialist and another phone appointment would be made. It arrived in the post the other day for December 22nd. Things have sure done changed with the NHS. I remember getting a same day home visit from a GP when I had measles in the 70's.

calzino, Sunday, 18 September 2022 12:05 (three years ago)

oh no lol it's December 30th, which sort of seems like "well at least it's not next year". In the meantime my son's epilepsy has returned and he desperately needs other medication to help him self-regulate. But no rush, lads.

calzino, Sunday, 18 September 2022 12:16 (three years ago)

Best of luck Tom, Mark, Calzino. I feel very lucky that my father got good end of life care before covid (and very lucky too). The degradation since then...

"evolved in the centre to feed, clothe, educate and keep fit the larger working population"

It remains to be seen what the efforts to unravel all of this will be on a population that has been fed, clothed, generally taken care of. A lot of the lucky ones are queuing for hours and days right now. Will we see such cohesion again?

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 18 September 2022 13:29 (three years ago)

It was a tense day of reporting from Leicester for me today. I interviewed a Hindu man wearing a motorbike helmet, holding an Indian flag on Belgrave road, the site of some of the unrest yesterday between a group of Muslim and Hindu men. Here’s what happened. 👇🏼

— Aina J. Khan (@ainajkhan) September 18, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 September 2022 08:36 (three years ago)

BBC coverage of this has been markedly quiet, and the brief mention i heard was heavily "both sides"ed and uncontextualized

feudal vague (Noodle Vague), Monday, 19 September 2022 08:51 (three years ago)

I've hardly seen anything bcz hell carnival.

Liverpool dockers about to be on strike for five days. https://t.co/NoaRuskeB6

— libcom.org (@libcomorg) September 19, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 September 2022 10:19 (three years ago)

Tax cuts, banker bonus cap lifted, enterprise zones where anything goes, and now this.

Jacob Rees-Mogg is set to scrap the Working Time Directive so that workers can be forced to work over 48 hours a week.

A man who wouldn't understand real work if he lived another 100 years.

— Chris Daw KC (@crimlawuk) September 18, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 September 2022 12:32 (three years ago)

Good tweets from this account from the goings on in Leicester.

I do think the British left is wholly unprepared for the scale of Hindutva and the speed with which it openly taking streets is going to change the nature of white fascism here, and even the potential for alliances against Muslims between PA and RSS

— Amardeep S Dhillon (@AmarDeepSinghD) September 18, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 September 2022 12:50 (three years ago)

American TV has shut down to broadcast this obscenity.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 19 September 2022 12:54 (three years ago)

But Kieth did so many tweets!

🗳️ Most recent Best Prime Minister poll from @RedfieldWilton:

🔵 Liz Truss 37% (+4)
🔴 Keir Starmer 35% (-4)
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⚪️ Don't know 28% (-)

Via @RedfieldWilton, 7 Sep (+/- since 4 Sep)

— Stats for Lefties (@LeftieStats) September 19, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 19 September 2022 12:56 (three years ago)


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