like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

there has been a fair bit of that, but it has been at least a tolerable program this morning. Well apart from this crap they are playing rn lol!

Sometimes I remember this series exists

I caught the end of that piano piece and it was great, thanks calz :)

it was Beethoven's last piano sonata and it is incredible.

The files suggest that the Queen’s advisers attempted to use the consent procedure to try to extract a commitment from the government that the new law would not apply to her private estates.

Harold Wilson was a royal bootlicker

Look at this bunch of absolute cunts

https://i.imgur.com/H7uObhN.png

There we go

King Charles III has approved an order that the day of the Queen's funeral will be a bank holiday

For more on this and other news visit https://t.co/NEDMP2uP6W

— Sky News Breaking (@SkyNewsBreak) September 10, 2022

God Save our King!

Kieth looks well jelly in that picture

or maybe Blair farted

We get another BH for the coronation of cunty lugs whenever that is

Critical support for whatever Elizabeth died of (do we know this btw, I haven’t read any actual news stories I’ve just been googling “do we get a day off” like most sane ppl)

Do we actually though, I thought coronation was the same day

a: she was rasputined
b: unlike rasputin it didn't take (*taps thread title*)

no it'll totally be later on, the queen's was months after her dad pegged out and Edward VIIIth Reich didn't even reach his

Ok no it’s not, wins is right.

Lmao

Sources have said that it will be shorter, smaller, less expensive and more representative of different faiths and community groups. King Charles is also said to have expressed a wish that it reflects the ethnic diversity of modern Britain.

gonna be really difficult to grovel and scream about wokism all at the same time

Half a teaspoon more curry powder in the chicken mayonnaise

cutting both ways when he "ceremonially" (actually) bans all cars from cities

doesn't every incoming ceo say shit like this

is this the british monarchy's famous instinct for self preservation kicking in, even their advisors must know the conspicuous consumption and not-even-concealed racism won't play well to the next generation (esp after how badly they fucked what should have been an easy win with the meghan stuff)

Ok

Just a very normal country with very normal politicians pic.twitter.com/duIZ2se7R1

— j (@jrc1921) September 9, 2022

The Prince Charles Philip Arthur George is a really impractical name for a pub.

luckily there'll be no pubs left by next year

“Two soups” pic.twitter.com/g23Zp536Bq

— Robin Flavell (@RobinFlavell) September 9, 2022

i was going to post earlier that the problem with the nairn book (enchanted glass) is not in my opinion that great but its weakness is the anderson-nairn thesis

and i didn't bcz i was too busy to stop and explain what the anderson-nairn thesis was

anyway i just realised that the thesis is basically anderson and nairn yelling "totally normal country" for hundreds of pages, which is fine for a shitposting twitter account but thin stuff if yr a marxist historian trying to explain the exact thing yr shouting so you just shout it again

also "ukania" is like a morrissey shtick, to me

the problem with

is that the one about the foreshortened bourgeois revolution? if so it's the kind of thing that sounds vaguely plausible but i can see it being used to explain away everything weird in an ultimately unilluminating way

ukania is an irritating bit

still want to read it since any left writing that takes the monarchy seriously is strangley uncommon in the uk. though there may be something better

i'm being a bit flippant as per but really just the claim that like france had a PROPER revolution but the uk didn't -- than taking enormous pains to explain the difference (fine) while maintaining this abstract normative hierarchy abt what revolutions *shd* be like based more than anything on intellectual snobbery (anderson's besetting mode) and over-excitement abt france in the late 60s (fair enough, easy to get caught up in at the time)

except 50 years later i'm not really seeing how that the "good and proper" revolutions elsewhere (bourgeois and other) led to self-evidently better places

still want to read it since any left writing that takes the monarchy seriously is strangley uncommon in the uk. though there may be something better

Nairn would point out that any writing that takes the monarchy seriously is strangely uncommon in the UK.

I've been at the Vaneigem again this morning, I mean obv given the current circumstances, and almost the first point he makes in Revolution of Everyday Life is that the French Revolution very much failed to be good or proper

(which isn't to say if the Terror hadn't been allowed to complete it's task it couldn't've been, rest in power St Just)

i feel like "by definition" a revolution is not going to be etc (but this is my own chaotic priors so)

also i'm in the middle of rereading the black jacobins which is not polite abt the so-called revolutionaries back in paris (doesn't mention st juste but robespierre did not cover himself in glory)

I do remember it being somewhat heartening in describing the common people of Paris coming out onto the streets in support of the revolution in Haiti, but political power did not share in this solidarity

except 50 years later i'm not really seeing how that the "good and proper" revolutions elsewhere (bourgeois and other) led to self-evidently better places

it could be that the revolution *didn't* lead to a fairer distribution of wealth & power, it just put different people in charge, or it could be that it *did* lead to that (with the usual caveats, i.e., only if one happened to be male, and in many cases, white), but things simply became inequitable again between then and now. Pretty sure that in the case of the US things did get better initially only for them to greatly worsen since. I don't know enough about French history to know in which camp France falls into.

I would say France at least has a healthier culture of protest and civil disobedience than the UK tho how much of that exhibits true power and how much ends up as folklore is an open question I guess.

Which French revolution are we talking about, there's been a few.

usually, ‘la Révolution’ is the 1789 one.

The reason France is a republic now has precious little to do with the French Revolution. It pretty much happened by accident, many decades later after the downfall of Napoleon III when they offered the crown to a Bourbon descendant who refused because he didn't like the tricolor flag.

refusenik bourbon descendent otm it sucks there is only one good flag

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e5/Unidentified_West_African_flag.svg/2560px-Unidentified_West_African_flag.svg.png

Pretty sure that in the case of the US things did get better initially only for them to greatly worsen since. I don't know enough about French history to know in which camp France falls into.

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american revolution is a weird one cause it was the local aristocracy revolting against the home office, same people were basically in charge before and after, its often held up as one that went relatively smoothly no extended civil war guillotine etc period but thats just cause there was more continuity than is typical, and of course there was eventually a civil war fought over the big issue they decided to punt on when devising their government

anyway i think its great than everyone can put politics aside for minute

An Irish friend says that when the news of the Queen’s death came through, ‘I was drinking in an Irish Republican Socialist pub here in Dublin… To a man & a woman everyone raised a glass to a woman who loved Ireland & did so much to bring about peace on our islands.’

— John Simpson (@JohnSimpsonNews) September 10, 2022

lol was just talking to another Irish (ex)ilxor about this. There’s so much narrative pushing that ACTUALLY real good Irish people are at most raising a glass in solemn favour and being perfectly grave and it’s ACTUALLY the evil woke Irish-Americans who are memeing it. I personally don’t really care tbh, she had a good visit to Ireland, but the figurehead of the empire and the immediate push to scold people who run the gamut from indifferent to celebratory is terrible.

I mean, like??? Even here?

Cryyyyying pic.twitter.com/jeGMFBzLcn

— bi ventura (@sonofedge) September 9, 2022

Woke Irish Americans, do they even exist?

Right?????

Hiiiiiiiiii

itt: sleepy joe erasure

lol suzy

Sorry suzy, I thought your ancestors were all planters for some reason

Prince William gets the Duchy of Cornwall, meaning;

- he’s legally entitled to drop a nuclear bomb on Cornwall

- he’s entitled to any dead whales or shipwrecks

- his Duchy gets your estate if you die alone in Cornwall without a will (see below)https://t.co/hTClqB972C

— Sarah_Woolley (@Sarah_Woolley) September 10, 2022