like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

Like, we have a view of Marilyn Monroe in the broader world, but she read Marx and married a playwrite

― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 9 September 2022 bookmarkflaglink

Asking this of Marilyn Monroe is quite different from The Queen in that it just doesn't matter for QE II. Her power is inherited and every step she took in her life was taken care for by others, as long as she fulfilled her contract to simply breathe and exist.

My point was public perception vs. the private inner world, but I get what you're saying

even with the horses she was a fail really, when have 250 000 acres of estate, loads of very posh stables, shedloads of money and help from one of the best trainers in the country. Her horses won 4 classics in 60 odd years!

This thread has never shown interest in the private inner worlds of public figures when their actions have consequences far beyond them. And that’s good.

alright alright *vanishes into a pile of dust*

Yes, even if she'd been the world's leading expert on the thought of Jacques Derrida, I'd still be in favour of shooting them all. Or at least condemning them all to internal exile in a public toilet in Poundbury.

When do we find out if she was a lizard person?

Asking this of Marilyn Monroe is quite different from The Queen in that it just doesn't matter for QE II. Her power is inherited and every step she took in her life was taken care for by others, as long as she fulfilled her contract to simply breathe and exist.

― xyzzzz__, Saturday, 10 September 2022 00:36 (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

does this mean that she really was 'purely ceremonial' then?

no

that phrase and everything it implies is mystification and I'm sick of hearing it

Andrew Sullivan's cited as a source on cable news. I'm done.

I can't hear it without it sounding like a detail they throw into a sci-fi story to let you know it's *the future*.

For me it feels like the opposite. This whole situation is reminder after reminder that as a country we're living in the past.

No worries if you can't get used to King Charles yet, you have two weeks of mourning, a funeral, his coronation, the Christmas speech, investiture of the Prince of Wales and a thousand other fucking things to drill this piece of information into your brain over the next forever

Either another queen died or people are still talking about the one from yesterday

— derek (@derek8185338254) September 9, 2022

God help me there was a bunch of Canadians getting pissy about some queen jokes in the timeline and one of them said something about "over 1000 years of tradition" and I was on the verge of schooling them a bit about why this is stupid ignorant horseshit and then I remembered you can just let people be stupid it's ok, think I picked a bad month to be very online

I don't even like accusing people of stupid, I guess ignorant is closer to the mark but that has all those know your place civility connotations when what I really mean is how can you be confident when you understand so little and are so incurious, your kneejerks are the warp and weft of monarchy, your lack of book-learning is the pile of skulls it sits atop, I know thinking is bad and overrated but that should entail a profound silence shit I shd listen to my own nonsense

there is a tremendous Beethoven sonata playing on R3 rn. I know when it finishes the presenter will try and ruin it by somehow linking it to [fuck this bullshit]

it was probably commissioned by like a cousin of elizabeth’s great great aunt or something

(soz)

there has been a fair bit of that, but it has been at least a tolerable program this morning. Well apart from this crap they are playing rn lol!

Sometimes I remember this series exists

I caught the end of that piano piece and it was great, thanks calz :)

it was Beethoven's last piano sonata and it is incredible.

The files suggest that the Queen’s advisers attempted to use the consent procedure to try to extract a commitment from the government that the new law would not apply to her private estates.

Harold Wilson was a royal bootlicker

Look at this bunch of absolute cunts

https://i.imgur.com/H7uObhN.png

There we go

King Charles III has approved an order that the day of the Queen's funeral will be a bank holiday

For more on this and other news visit https://t.co/NEDMP2uP6W

— Sky News Breaking (@SkyNewsBreak) September 10, 2022

God Save our King!

Kieth looks well jelly in that picture

or maybe Blair farted

We get another BH for the coronation of cunty lugs whenever that is

Critical support for whatever Elizabeth died of (do we know this btw, I haven’t read any actual news stories I’ve just been googling “do we get a day off” like most sane ppl)

Do we actually though, I thought coronation was the same day

a: she was rasputined
b: unlike rasputin it didn't take (*taps thread title*)

no it'll totally be later on, the queen's was months after her dad pegged out and Edward VIIIth Reich didn't even reach his

Ok no it’s not, wins is right.

Lmao

Sources have said that it will be shorter, smaller, less expensive and more representative of different faiths and community groups. King Charles is also said to have expressed a wish that it reflects the ethnic diversity of modern Britain.

gonna be really difficult to grovel and scream about wokism all at the same time

Half a teaspoon more curry powder in the chicken mayonnaise

cutting both ways when he "ceremonially" (actually) bans all cars from cities

doesn't every incoming ceo say shit like this

is this the british monarchy's famous instinct for self preservation kicking in, even their advisors must know the conspicuous consumption and not-even-concealed racism won't play well to the next generation (esp after how badly they fucked what should have been an easy win with the meghan stuff)

Ok

Just a very normal country with very normal politicians pic.twitter.com/duIZ2se7R1

— j (@jrc1921) September 9, 2022

The Prince Charles Philip Arthur George is a really impractical name for a pub.

luckily there'll be no pubs left by next year

“Two soups” pic.twitter.com/g23Zp536Bq

— Robin Flavell (@RobinFlavell) September 9, 2022

i was going to post earlier that the problem with the nairn book (enchanted glass) is not in my opinion that great but its weakness is the anderson-nairn thesis

and i didn't bcz i was too busy to stop and explain what the anderson-nairn thesis was

anyway i just realised that the thesis is basically anderson and nairn yelling "totally normal country" for hundreds of pages, which is fine for a shitposting twitter account but thin stuff if yr a marxist historian trying to explain the exact thing yr shouting so you just shout it again

also "ukania" is like a morrissey shtick, to me

the problem with

is that the one about the foreshortened bourgeois revolution? if so it's the kind of thing that sounds vaguely plausible but i can see it being used to explain away everything weird in an ultimately unilluminating way

ukania is an irritating bit

still want to read it since any left writing that takes the monarchy seriously is strangley uncommon in the uk. though there may be something better

i'm being a bit flippant as per but really just the claim that like france had a PROPER revolution but the uk didn't -- than taking enormous pains to explain the difference (fine) while maintaining this abstract normative hierarchy abt what revolutions *shd* be like based more than anything on intellectual snobbery (anderson's besetting mode) and over-excitement abt france in the late 60s (fair enough, easy to get caught up in at the time)

except 50 years later i'm not really seeing how that the "good and proper" revolutions elsewhere (bourgeois and other) led to self-evidently better places

still want to read it since any left writing that takes the monarchy seriously is strangley uncommon in the uk. though there may be something better

Nairn would point out that any writing that takes the monarchy seriously is strangely uncommon in the UK.

I've been at the Vaneigem again this morning, I mean obv given the current circumstances, and almost the first point he makes in Revolution of Everyday Life is that the French Revolution very much failed to be good or proper