like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

Argentinian TV cracking open the bubbly live on air has done me in pic.twitter.com/KzpCVTJbYr

— oli (@olicoulsxn) September 8, 2022

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— michael richmond (@Sisyphusa) September 8, 2022

Bastardi is a fucking tool. it's astonishing that anyone takes him seriously.

Can't believe they are going to make a MAN queen. This woke nonsense has gone too far.

— Nat Guest (@unfortunatalie) September 8, 2022

Omg did I ever laugh hard at that one. Hoooly shit

"The Brazilian president, Jair Bolsanaro, said the country would be holding three days of official mourning in honour of the Queen.

He described the monarch as not just the Queen of England but a “Queen to all of us”, adding that she was an “extraordinary and unique woman, whose example of leadership, humility and love for (her) homeland will continue to inspire us and the whole world until the end of time”"

wtf is Bastani doing

So bullshit aside: was she as smart a her defenders say? I keep reading accounts that she Read Documents and was able to hold her own against less prepared PMs.

"bullshit aside" are you for fucking real ? lol, just listen to MacMillan and Schama on the BBC from earlier and you might find someone with an equally pompous and full of shite world view as yourself.

Wha

So bullshit aside: was she as smart a her defenders say? I keep reading accounts that she Read Documents and was able to hold her own against less prepared PMs.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 September 2022 01:10 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

Afaict the only policy she helped in would include helping her investments and her family be exempt from things like paying taxes, getting the public to pay her electric bills and racial discrimination acts when hiring “coloured” palace staff.

Just this year the Caribbean visit of Will&Kate went so badly that there was serious talk of organising to leave the commonwealth. There isn’t a lick of a brain cell on the lot of them, they’ve been doing the same bullshit for decades. If she was a smart, or even capable head of state, you’d think she’d at very least being able to get her dearly beloved racist husband to not put his foot in it literally every time he spoke to the public. “Being able to read a document” is about as far as the praise has ever got.

Just this year the Caribbean visit of Will&Kate went so badly that there was serious talk of organising to leave the commonwealth

the jamaican pm prominently announced during the visit that they were planning to become a republic, but this had apparently been on the cards for a while with widespread support from both major parties, just no government had gotten around to making it a priority until then. the announcement doesn't seem to be in reaction to the visit going badly, just opportunistic. the belizean government also announced plans to investigate constitutional reform, including the possibility of becoming a republic, just after the visit, but it seems like this had also been mentioned as being on the agenda for a while & the government just took the opportunity to move forward there.

I've just woken up hearing a report that postal workers have paused a 48 hour strike, ffs that is a pisstake. The royal bootlicking is so deeply ingrained in much of this country, but I think a few years of King Charles might help finish that off.

Just struck me that if Charles had had a fatal polo accident some time in the mid-70s, we'd be looking at King Andrew right now

Afaict the only policy she helped in would include helping her investments and her family be exempt from things like paying taxes, getting the public to pay her electric bills and racial discrimination acts when hiring “coloured” palace staff.

She approved a coup on one of her sovereign nations' elected government when it established free health care, instituted equal pay for women, made equal rights for all races law, established land rights for indigenous people, abolished the death penalty, simplified divorce, funded public schools, made university free, established a national sewage program, reduced the voting age to 18, allowed non-state territories into the Senate, abolished the British Honours system, dropped God Save The Queen as anthem, funded dozens of arts enterprises and established multicultural and youth and community radio licences, granted foreign territories independence, and abolished conscription and withdrew from the war of agression in Vietnam tbf, but yeah she didn't actually help design it.

Did she do any of those things though? Or was she just a last signature?

https://i.imgur.com/C1Qxpf1.png

Her representative in Australia sacked the prime minister and appointed the leader of the opposition, even though he didn't have a parliamentary majority. When there's a constitutional crisis, the sovereign and his/her representatives still have an awful lot of power.

why has windows put a fucking black ribbon on my taskbar and how do i get it off

Just tell the vpn you’re in Ireland

just imagine it's mourning for the collective loss of dignity and minds

I keep reading accounts that she Read Documents and was able to hold her own against less prepared PMs.

― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 9 September 2022 bookmarkflaglink

She could draft a minute. She could lead a team. She could hold a press conference. She would stay calm in an interview. Those skills look simple, but they’re not, and they were vital.

lol

Sam, it was the aspirant government that ran on those policies and won election that enacted them; Betty approved a coup, after months of lengthy briefings by her earthly representative, to remove them.

(Charles also received separate briefings on the plan and discussed them with mum, formally writing to congratulate the gin-pickled metatron after the fact.)

another example of her commitment to democracy

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/message-queen-elizabeth-shah-played-role-cia-1953-coup-iran-n1225981

"bullshit aside" are you for fucking real ? lol, just listen to MacMillan and Schama on the BBC from earlier and you might find someone with an equally pompous and full of shite world view as yourself.

― calzino, Thursday, September 8, 2022

You finished your drunken bender, you spineless twat?

you still talking shit? you pompous arsehole

you post "bullshit aside" and then ask a bullshit question.

another example of her commitment to democracy

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/message-queen-elizabeth-shah-played-role-cia-1953-coup-iran-n1225981

this appears, in this case, to have nothing to do with her

Stuff it up your arse, calzino. Nothing I've posted on this or any thread suggests I'm a royalist whereas everything you post suggests you're a thin-skinned shit.

Alfred, you may not be aware that British people are going through a massive cost of living crisis and those who rely on carer’s allowance or other benefits are especially shitting themselves! We are already being told by our news media that ‘now is not the time’ to advocate for the interests of the poor or to highlight any of the widening inequalities perpetrated by our current government, so in the interests of all, could you please wind your fucking neck in?

come on guys, no fighting, today's for celebrating this joyous moment together!

It will be even funnier if Charles keels over before his coronation won't it?
Hate to think the country could pass up chances to become a republic though current leadership would probably need to go too.
Do wonder what machinations are currently underway.

he's got a habit of making arrogant snidey comments and posts some rank supercilious garbage at times but I probably was a bit rude, but we are both probably best advised to calm down here, lol.

FTQ

So bullshit aside: was she as smart a her defenders say? I keep reading accounts that she Read Documents and was able to hold her own against less prepared PMs.

The Saxe-Coburg-Gothas are not a family renowned for their brains.

Can I just say regardless of our feelings on the passing of the monarch that American codology and blow-ins are, as ever, not welcome on this thread. Calz, you have nothing to apologise for.

Suggest everyone who has a problem with that direct themselves to literally any American politics post where foreigners are told they’re not welcome, and also that thankfully not all politics threads on ilx are as stale and right wing as those ones. Get well soon, Tom, btw.

Thank you, I'm fine.

I was gonna say..Status Quo that bad eh?

Imagine having the wherewithal to wonder if the queen was smart when she was paying her son’s legal fees. Honestly.

nearly all the *smartest* and richest people in England have DNA that directly links them to William The Conqueror and the Companions of the Conqueror and also the Companions of the Companions of the Conqueror. Fuck knows how this happened, like. Just some very smart families I guess.

One of the things I miss about my mom is despite all her right-winginess, she did think that the British monarchy would be best dealt with by multiple slicey bois and I can just hear her saying ‘take alllllll their money and send them to work at Target!’

a thing that keeps coming up from defenders and not-defending-but-ers is the idea that the head of state has nothing to do with the things that the state does which should be absurd on its face even if we for some reason decide to ignore her approvals of and personal interventions in so many atrocities

I haven't read tom nairn's book on the monarchy so I can't recommend it but excerpts on verso do highlight how ridiculous the deflections are and the obvious contradiction in they're suppressing

https://www.versobooks.com/blogs/5364-the-sociology-of-grovelling

"she is purely ceremonial" one of the top lies from melts who enjoy the flavour of boot but want to pretend they're lol "progressive"

Normans were the descendants of another branch of Vikings which is where the designation came from like.

also enjoying "show some respect for another human being" from the kind of dead eyed serfs who'd be laughing and cheering if one of the United Kingdom's designated enemies carked it

I've already pissed off my centre left family by not handing it to her and being disrespectful of their feelings in this hard time by trying to talk about imperialism and I feel pretty bad about it even though I'm right

in fact i wish i could be fucked to do a full "this you?" search for people on social media giving it the "she was a real person with loved ones" and their views on, ooh, let's say Shamima Begum for example

beyond her personal actions, the fact that the head of the largest party can effectively assume the royal prerogative themself, which allows them to do things like declare war or put through statutory instruments without consulting parliament, this is obviously a ridiculous and dangerous state of affairs which the country has decided to never talk about.