like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

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Hard to imagine anyone being worse than Priti Patel but...

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 18:54 (three years ago)

Rees-Mogg gets a cabinet post lol.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:01 (three years ago)

it’s the day they all became the britannia bunch!

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:05 (three years ago)

Shilliam is cited in that NYT piece, which is worth reading imho. For one thing, Kojo Koram is a Birkbeck lecturer, so it's not an "outsider" perspective though I'm sure the tories on twitter won't care.

In case you're paywalled:

LONDON — “Do we confront this moment with honesty,” asked Rishi Sunak, one of the two candidates running to replace Boris Johnson as prime minister of Britain, “or do we tell ourselves comforting fairy tales?”

The answer, from the Conservative Party membership, at least, is fairy tales. On Monday the members elected Liz Truss as their new leader and the next prime minister. In a campaign built around a belief in the miraculous power of tax cuts, Ms. Truss presented herself as the economic savior of a country heading into a winter of crisis. In the face of sky-high inflation and widespread economic misery, it’s a fantastical proposition.

But fairy tales don’t come out of nowhere. For her zealous commitment to privatization, deregulation and tax-cutting, many see Ms. Truss as a would-be second coming of Margaret Thatcher. Sealed by sartorial mimicry, there’s something in the comparison. Yet Ms. Truss’s most apt antecedent, in fact, is someone who had already left the Conservative Party under a cloud of controversy by the time Ms. Thatcher came to lead it: Enoch Powell.

Largely known for his bitterly racist denunciation of immigration, Mr. Powell has a claim to being Britain’s most influential postwar politician. That’s chiefly because, in an era of decolonization, he sketched out a route for Britain to maintain its global dominance. Fashioned in the dying of the imperial light, that roster of policies — preferential terms of global trade achieved through hard-line anti-migrant policies, shrinking the state, undermining organized labor and fostering finance — forms the basis of Ms. Truss’s politics today. The British Empire may have all but ended 60 years ago, but the country’s next prime minister is still in thrall to its legacy.

While Ms. Truss has been happy to court association with Ms. Thatcher — boasting that “we did great things in the 1980s” — she’s likely to be more wary of openly celebrating Mr. Powell. His name, after all, is synonymous with racism and xenophobia. Chiefly that’s because of an infamous speech he gave in 1968: Addressing a room full of Conservatives, he warned that immigration from the colonies would lead to a race war, resulting in the rivers of Britain “foaming with much blood.” Indulging in the language of bizarre colonial revenge fantasies, he spoke fearfully of how “in 15 or 20 years’ time, the Black man will have the whip hand over the white man.”

The speech, incendiary and unrepentant, forever sealed his reputation as Britain’s most famous nativist politician. But his notorious racism has overshadowed the extent to which he was also, in the words of the academic Robbie Shilliam, Britain’s first neoliberal politician. In this view, Mr. Powell was the first major conservative voice to break with the postwar consensus of social democracy and call for tax cuts, privatization and the free movement of money.

The evidence is clear enough. Just months after he delivered his “rivers of blood” speech, he spoke at a meeting of the influential Mont Pelerin Society, Friedrich Hayek’s international organization that spread the gospel of the free market, on the importance of freeing capital from the control of the state. He collaborated with and championed a free-market think tank, the Institute of Economic Affairs, at a time when its members were viewed as marginal eccentrics. In articles and speeches, Mr. Powell led the charge for turning Britain into the financialized economy it became in the later decades of the 20th century.

Behind his politics lay the empire — or, more accurately, its end. By the mid-1960s, the British Empire, once the proprietor of a quarter of the world, was winding down. As former colonies assumed independence, Britain faced a dwindling of its global dominance. To politicians like Mr. Powell, reared on British power, the dangers were paramount. How could Britain retain its imperial advantages, if not the empire itself? The answer he came to was simple: borders for the people of the empire but not for the wealth of the empire.

Ms. Truss is heir to this tradition of thinking. On immigration she has staked out a hard-line position, vowing to increase the border force by 20 percent and backing the government’s plan to send asylum seekers to Rwanda. On the world stage, too, she is notably bullish — whether in threatening to renege on Britain’s deal with the European Union over the Northern Ireland protocol or promising to call out Vladimir Putin to his face. But it is on the terrain of the economy where her absorption in zombie imperial thinking is most striking.

In 2012, Ms. Truss announced herself on the political scene as a co-author of a book, tellingly titled “Britannia Unchained,” that argued that Britain’s diminished position globally was the result of an overextended welfare state raising generations of mollycoddled workers, derided as “the worst idlers in the world.” While she likes to wrap herself in the Union Jack, her position a decade on appears to be the same. British workers, she said in a recent leaked recording, lacked the “skill and application” of their foreign counterparts and needed to work harder.

The state, by contrast, should do less. Any effort to help Britons facing ruinously high energy bills, Ms. Truss has said, would amount to “handouts,” deeply undesirable even if, under pressure, she may have to resort to them. The only panacea for the country’s economic woes is tax cuts — likely to predominantly benefit the wealthy and big business — free ports and special investment zones where international capital can enjoy free rein. The state is to be cut down, wages restrained, red tape reduced, the market set free. This is pure Powellism.

The problem is that none of these prescriptions are likely to work. The economic cycle begun by Ms. Thatcher has long exhausted itself, and tax cuts have been consistently shown to increase inequality while having a negligible effect on growth or unemployment. And yet a plausible solution to the country’s woes lies close at hand: a price cap on energy bills, increased taxation on profits and state investment to rebalance the economy.

Instead, under Ms. Truss, the broken mentality of empire rules. And it is everyday Britons who will pay the price.

rob, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:11 (three years ago)

cheers rob, i saw tweets hinting that this was the angle of the NYT piece. of course this is why hacks belonging to the best newspaper industry in the world hate it.

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:24 (three years ago)

Thanks Rob.

"For one thing, Kojo Koram is a Birkbeck lecturer, so it's not an "outsider" perspective though I'm sure the tories on twitter won't care."

He isn't in the commentator club, and I doubt this piece could be published here.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:35 (three years ago)

Oh yes, that makes sense. And ftr, I meant some of the dimmer tweets I saw about how this proves yanks are jealous of the UK's superior command of tax policy or some such, more than anything anyone said itt.

rob, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:41 (three years ago)

So much murderer shagging in this letter.

Note the begging for a new hospital.

A personal statement.

Time for others to step up. I will be spending time with my family and doing no media requests. pic.twitter.com/8mFgIza9WL

— Johnny Mercer (@JohnnyMercerUK) September 6, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:43 (three years ago)

Btw rents are being frozen and there'll be no evictions. Here is a landlord having a normal one.

someone in the scottish landlords network is proposing a landlord strike. is someone gonna tell him...? pic.twitter.com/ug1Pru8I0U

— Gordon / rent controls fan account (@istreasatuatha) September 6, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 20:37 (three years ago)

Scotland only.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 20:38 (three years ago)

looks like she's doubled down on the batshittery

koogs, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 21:19 (three years ago)

This is kinda amazing..

putting one of the most inept, unpopular, and right wing politicians in the country in charge of BEIS during an energy crisis where people are demanding mass interventionism is an astonishing political decision https://t.co/38Bhgyelqm

— 𝔐𝔞𝔤𝔫𝔢𝔱𝔰 🧲 (@PerthshireMags) September 6, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 21:19 (three years ago)

It'll end in tears - not his though, everybody else's.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 21:27 (three years ago)

Looking forward to seeing him fail upwards into his natural home, the Lords.

born on the bayeux (Matt #2), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 21:49 (three years ago)

He asked her ‘why would you do this, who is going to be better at this role than me, which of your mates gets the job, you promised a meritocracy?’
PM - I can’t answer that Johnny

This system stinks & treats people appallingly

Best person I know sacked by an imbecile @trussliz pic.twitter.com/RZGblGA1tx

— Felicity Cornelius-Mercer (@mercer_felicity) September 6, 2022

the pinefox, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 07:13 (three years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP8sofAN4xc

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 07:27 (three years ago)

British woman Liz Trussell, who tweets as @LizTruss, has been spending the morning replying to world leaders and it's possibly the best thing in the history of the internet. pic.twitter.com/hGGbc7FPMm

— Pádraig Belton (@PadraigBelton) September 6, 2022

StanM, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 07:29 (three years ago)

"No vision, no plan, no charisma" says clueless Guardian headline, as if the opposition is offering any of those things.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 07:46 (three years ago)

Vote Labour and you can;

Change Liz Truss to Keir Starmer
Change Kwasi Kwarteng to Rachel Reeves
Change James Cleverly to David Lammy
Change Therese Coffey to Wes Streeting
Change Suella Braverman to Yvette Cooper

What more could you possibly want?

— J.-P. Janson De Couët (@jpjanson) September 6, 2022

calzino, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 08:08 (three years ago)

i saw that last night and i'm 99 percent certain he's taking the piss, unfortunately irony doesn't fly well on Twitter

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 08:21 (three years ago)

I was 100% sure, the serious melts try not to remind ppl Kieth is the leader too often. Yeah some people are very suspicious about sarcasm/irony.

calzino, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 08:38 (three years ago)

I'm not surprised.

With Truss set to announce a cap of ~£2.5k on energy bills for the next two years, I want to do something surprising: praise @Keir_Starmer.

By calling for a universal cap, Starmer helped push Truss to do the same. Millions of people will be better off as a result. Keir did good.

— Stats for Lefties (@LeftieStats) September 6, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 09:29 (three years ago)

lol do they think a bit of positive reinforcement might make him better?

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 09:50 (three years ago)

I know it could have been worse, but I'm not thanking anyone when I'm paying 130+% more than last year to British Gas and they are still telling me I need to pay more and we are getting loaded with future debt while the companies make record profits. It's fucking dog-shit opposition that doesn't deserve any praise at all.

calzino, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 10:26 (three years ago)

Minister for Health. Minister for Energy pic.twitter.com/60OxmEt67N

— Guy Fawkes (@blunted_james) September 6, 2022

koogs, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 15:05 (three years ago)

They will never take it.

Labour being handed a beautiful election pitch, here. "We'll ditch the Truss Tax on your energy bills for the next ten years, and make the energy companies pay it, as they should have done in the first place."

— David Whitley (@mrdavidwhitley) September 6, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 19:35 (three years ago)

lot's of the melt/liberal commentariat are promoting the bullshit that there is huge ideological gulf between the two parties now - despite Truss likely to limbo under the very low bar that they set.

calzino, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 20:09 (three years ago)

this is one of the few sensible things i've read about energy bills

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2022/sep/07/ive-run-ofgem-this-is-how-i-would-solve-great-britains-energy-crisis-long-term

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 21:58 (three years ago)

Here is how they plan to solve the energy crisis.

🚨BREAKING: The fracking ban will be scrapped **tomorrow**. Planning requests for new drilling expected within weeks. Major change in UK energy rules. More in @Telegraph.

— Ben Riley-Smith (@benrileysmith) September 7, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 22:01 (three years ago)

yes, that was pretty nailed on. there's your energy independence.

re: that article above, they key point for me seemed like however we find to muddle through these next couple of winters, and whether it's done fairly or unfairly, we still have a dysfunctional retail energy market that will be just as susceptible to these sorts of shocks in the future.

funny how politicians are constantly insisting that public institutions like the BBC and the NHS are in urgent need of reform when privatised industries like trains, energy, water, etc are just allowed to rumble idiotically through the night, more byzantine, inefficient and expensive year after year, just perma-fucked

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 22:08 (three years ago)

I'm going to presume here that most of the bountiful sedimentary shale rocks that are ripe for fracking are not in the tory heartlands

calzino, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 22:21 (three years ago)

Red Wall innit

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 22:31 (three years ago)

Obviously fracking is not a great idea for other reasons but … how much gas are we talking about here? It’s a tiny country with a huge population. Difficult to imagine it making the slightest difference. Is this for anything other than show or is the cruelty is the point?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 23:50 (three years ago)

you know the answer to that one, deep in your heart

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 7 September 2022 23:52 (three years ago)

i also imagine it'll be very profitable for *someone*

koogs, Thursday, 8 September 2022 07:24 (three years ago)

there's also talk of him wresting away the D part of DCMS into his own department. yeah, 'digital' not the first thing that springs to mind when i think of him, but i dread to think what he'll do with that.

koogs, Thursday, 8 September 2022 07:27 (three years ago)

Is this for anything other than show or is the cruelty is the point?

― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 7 September 2022 bookmarkflaglink

Truss' government will be all about cruelty. Every Tory government is about that, but this one will want to be seen to revel in it.

But events dear boy events. All of this culture warfare means an eye might be taken off the management of decline. They get caught. I got to bet on something.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 8 September 2022 08:23 (three years ago)

the fracking lobby probably hedged their bets by donating to both candidates campaign funds

calzino, Thursday, 8 September 2022 09:15 (three years ago)

Labour Party conference this year features a special virtual fracking stand where members of the PLP can queue up to have high pressure water sluiced through their crevices while receiving jewel encrusted goody bags

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2022 09:31 (three years ago)

I thought the Queen looked pretty feeble in the photographs with Truss and now she's "under medical supervision" at Balmoral.

Buckfast At Tiffany's (Tom D.), Thursday, 8 September 2022 11:43 (three years ago)

Cons +200

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 8 September 2022 11:55 (three years ago)

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/61ENVxVNvoL._AC_UX679_.jpg

link.exposing.politically (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 8 September 2022 11:55 (three years ago)

https://fastly.4sqi.net/img/general/600x600/747985_h3JMah9gh8n2KY_qgmOgr8N1PSoFkAaqkgBZOuv1mzA.jpg

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Thursday, 8 September 2022 11:58 (three years ago)

shame about the weather

devvvine, Thursday, 8 September 2022 11:59 (three years ago)

https://i.imgur.com/6AL1c4l.png

tweeting a completely banal opinion and then tweeting 'P.S. I was being sarcastic' in parenthesis the following day is pretty funny, but not as funny as someone replying with 'Just removed my like from your original tweet', I love twitter

soref, Thursday, 8 September 2022 12:03 (three years ago)

heh!

calzino, Thursday, 8 September 2022 12:04 (three years ago)

Hearing that Starmer is "in tears"

— Rivkah Brown (@RivkahBrown) September 8, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 8 September 2022 12:11 (three years ago)

a second plane has hit balmoral

— نسیم (@n4ssie) September 8, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 8 September 2022 12:13 (three years ago)

this is the best mood i've been in in 2 months

seo layer (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 8 September 2022 12:20 (three years ago)

Is this what it is...to be happy?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 8 September 2022 12:23 (three years ago)


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