Why is everyone so mean?? US Politics: September 2022

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Tracer Hand, Friday, 2 September 2022 22:17 (one year ago) link

Too long, too complicated, why is Biden taking my money, you have no response because he is a communist thief.

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 2 September 2022 22:19 (one year ago) link

But we could have built a bomb with that interest

You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Saturday, 3 September 2022 01:41 (one year ago) link

Dropkick Murphys guy making some solid points at a festival in Pennsylvania:

Ken Casey of the Dropkick Murphys goes on an epic rant against MAGA grifters with no lies detected and the Boston accent is the chefs kiss pic.twitter.com/jrFUFu3K67

— Wu-Tang Is For The Children (@WUTangKids) September 3, 2022

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 3 September 2022 17:23 (one year ago) link

Didn't he go into the crowd a few years back to kick some MAGA dude's ass? Or am thinking of Mike Ness?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 September 2022 17:44 (one year ago) link

That was Ness. DMs wrote the letter to Scott Walker about how they ‘literally hate you’ when he tried to use one of their songs in 2012 or 2016.

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 3 September 2022 17:55 (one year ago) link

I think it was DMs, too! 2013:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGubnoMqPxM

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:07 (one year ago) link

Near the end of its March 13 show at Terminal 5 in Midtown Manhattan, the veteran Celtic punk band invited fans onstage — as per tradition — to participate in an encore rendition of “Kiss Me I’m Shitfaced.” Fans continued to pour onto the stage as the group transitioned to another classic, the anti-white supremecist ditty “Skinhead on the MBTA,” then a cover of AC/DC’s “TNT.”

That’s when things got a little ugly.

According to several blogs — and caught on video from the scene — a large man with a shaved head began to flash the Nazi salute, with a bent arm shooting straight out from the chest. Founding bassist-singer Ken Casey moved toward the guy, shoved him aside and began a pile-on that ended half a minute later with a torn shirt and one less skinhead onstage.

He took back the microphone and screamed, “Nazis are not f—ing welcome at a Dropkick Murphys show!” and the crowd went wild.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:08 (one year ago) link

OK, yeah, I was close. Back this past March some neo-Nazi group started using some DM song, and after the cease and desist the DM guy outright gave them a time and place to meet so he could kick their ass:

I’ll be down M Street park on Saturday at 12:30 walking my dogs if you’ll are looking to discuss

— Dropkick Murphys (@DropkickMurphys) March 24, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:12 (one year ago) link

What causes a man to start fires?

All I know is, don't blame this guy

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the floor is guava (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link

I can't take it anymore!

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 3 September 2022 18:29 (one year ago) link

an old friend took me to see DMs and Rancid last summer— we had some fun, but the DMs fans looked about the same as Blue Lives Matter scumbags, judging from their shirts and the cars they drove. Shit, a Suburban full of already drunk assholes parked next to me during the tailgating time, and it was covered in Trump and cop-humping shit

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Saturday, 3 September 2022 21:02 (one year ago) link

Ken otmfm

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 3 September 2022 21:15 (one year ago) link

"The water in Capital City isn't safe to drink, and there's been a mysterious menacing plane circling overhead for hours" is either a pretty good opening scene for a dystopian novel or just life in Mississippi right now

— Joshua Benton (@jbenton) September 3, 2022

xpost to table, if anything that's what makes it more notable. As someone asked on one of the DM twitter threads, what does it say when your music attracts these sorts of people? But of course the band can't help it if knuckleheads latch on, and there's not much they can do to stop it besides break up. What they can do is call them on their bullshit, or (sometimes literally) punch back. Most bands are preaching to the converted. Some generally leftier acts like Springsteen (who attracts his share of GOP assholes, from cops to name politicians) or Pearl Jam might say something broad or relatively diplomatic. But the Dropkick dude actually challenges these assholes to fights. Beyond that ... man, I'd hate to hate my fans.

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 3 September 2022 22:11 (one year ago) link

I've seen the Murphys several times. The demographic is overwhelmingly young, white, male and drunk. At least in Atlanta (and Chattanooga), I've not seen many/any skinheads or other obvious right-wing types.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 3 September 2022 22:14 (one year ago) link

Mid-Atlantic big Irish Catholic energy has a lot of fashy energy I guess— Philly show felt like an Irish cop convention, and they all left before Rancid took the stage

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Sunday, 4 September 2022 02:13 (one year ago) link

A bunch of mooks at a show with two bands heavily indebted to Oi! does not surprise me. SHARPs and Nazis were fighting throughout the Rancid show I saw in 1997/8.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 4 September 2022 02:26 (one year ago) link

I would not say "overblown". Realistically it's hard to pull off, but the two-thirds threshold for simple amendment of the constitution has been met many times and this provision sets the very same threshold for writing a wholly new constitution from scratch. Everything would be up for grabs.

The efforts of billionaires like the Kochs to solidify state legislatures into instruments for pursuing a hard-right extreme agenda have been very successful on the whole. With organizing in depth and in secret, the far right could pull this off and *poof* there goes any semblance of the last 250 years of agonizingly won expansion of rights.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 5 September 2022 02:40 (one year ago) link

Special Master granted, can't tell if this matters or not though

akm, Monday, 5 September 2022 16:03 (one year ago) link

Well, the DOJ saw everything already. And it will be appealed, so drags out the clock. But I saw this bit of potential context:

Apparently, Trump is concerned that truth about his taxes and health gets out. Weighing in favor of the special master is that:

"the seized materials include medical documents, correspondence related to taxes, and accounting information"

— Michael McDonald (@ElectProject) September 5, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 5 September 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link

this seems potentially shitty

A Trump-appointed judge gave Trump more than his lawyers asked for today, putting any of DOJ’s criminal investigation of the former president relating to the seized documents on hold temporarily.

Now, to see if — and, if so, what elements of this — DOJ appeals.

— Chris “Subscribe to Law Dork!” Geidner (@chrisgeidner) September 5, 2022

akm, Monday, 5 September 2022 16:33 (one year ago) link

Ugh, that’s what a fool believes

You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Monday, 5 September 2022 16:35 (one year ago) link

Democrats who voted to confirm Judge Aileen Cannon after Trump had already lost the 2020 election: Carper, Coons, Cortez Masto, Feinstein, Hassan, Jones, Kaine, Leahy, Manchin, Murphy, Rosen, Warner.

— Gregory Hays (@aristofontes) September 5, 2022

curmudgeon, Monday, 5 September 2022 16:54 (one year ago) link

Seems like a ruling that will get reversed, but if it gets to SCOTUS who knows? There's a nicely monarchial appeal about extending executive privilege in perpetuity.

I wonder what her rationale was for "temporarily" suspending the DOJ investigation? Does she even know the breadth of the investigation or what parts of it may have no close connection to the warranted Mar-a-Lago search?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 5 September 2022 20:11 (one year ago) link

/5 By the way you’re seeing a lot of “the judge shut down the criminal investigation.” Not so. The judge shut down, for now, review of documents seized from Mar-a-Lago. The criminal investigation existed before that and will continue on other channels as before.

— HatMaster (@Popehat) September 5, 2022

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 5 September 2022 20:38 (one year ago) link

So, the Law Dork misinformed his Twitter followers? Shocking! And here I was all set to subscribe to his newsletter.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 5 September 2022 20:56 (one year ago) link

warning: don't read politico. but don't read daily beast either. don't read at all, just to be safe

normal email

The new German owner of Politico sent an email to his closest executives asking if they should meet up to pray for Donald Trump’s re-election, according to a report. Axel Springer CEO Mathias Döpfner sent the message in the weeks leading up to the 2020 presidential election, according to The Washington Post, a year before his company’s acquisition of Politico in October 2021. “Do we all want to get together for an hour in the morning on November 3 and pray that Donald Trump will again become President of the United States of America?” Döpfner wrote, inspired by an article about the Trump administration taking legal action against Google for abuse of market dominance. Döpfner went on to argue that Trump had made the right call on five of the six biggest issues of the last century—including pursuing peace in the Middle East and “defending the free democracies” from Russia and China—only falling short on climate change. “No American administration in the last 50 years has done more,” he added. When asked about the message, Döpfner initially denied it existed, going so far as to say: “It has never been sent and has never been even imagined.” When confronted with a printout of the email, he explained that he may have sent it “as an ironic, provocative statement in the circle of people that hate Donald Trump.” “That is me,” he added. “That could be.”

https://www.thedailybeast.com/politcos-new-owner-mathias-dopfner-invited-colleagues-to-pray-for-trumps-re-election

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 15:15 (one year ago) link

It is possible I was a troll

You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 16:24 (one year ago) link

It has never been sent
~murmurs in the jury of his peers
It has never even been imagined
~some cheers of support, rising action
It was an ironic, provocative statement
~chants of “MVP” begin to fill courtroom
That is me. It could be
~plaintiff, judge and jury carry him out of the courtroom on their shoulders

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 16:40 (one year ago) link

Where is the best place to read news/analysis nowadays?

Cow_Art, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 16:48 (one year ago) link

Always lots o' links on the Reddit politics thread.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link

Seriously, recommendations are welcome.

Politico is where I typically go simply because I don’t have a limited number of articles.

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 17:24 (one year ago) link

lol pic.twitter.com/vbNW3oTKYn

— Ben Collins (@oneunderscore__) September 6, 2022

borrowed Ostalgia for the unremembered 80s (MoominTrollin), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:40 (one year ago) link

I'M A DEMOCRAT WHO THINKS BIDEN'S ANTI-DEMOCRATIC RHETORIC HAS GONE TOO FAR!!!!!!

...hi i'm zach

Karl Malone, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 19:43 (one year ago) link

I'M A DEMOCRAT WHO THINKS BIDEN'S ANTI-DEMOCRATIC RHETORIC HAS GONE TOO FAR!!!!!! and I'm an alcoholic

akm, Tuesday, 6 September 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link

Sir, this is a Wendy's.

“I’m a Democrat who writes for the Federalist because I’m actually Very Racist”

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 21:07 (one year ago) link

JD Vance, understander of Ohio https://t.co/L77Hc4XIMb pic.twitter.com/8QjYy8umqn

— Bradford Pearson (@BradfordPearson) September 6, 2022

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 21:18 (one year ago) link

Thanks for introducing yourself, Scott, as I've never heard of you. Your opinions are, as the kids say, wack.

xp

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 21:22 (one year ago) link

hi they gave me back my phone in the residential treatment place i'm living. i read taegan goddard's political wire daily. it's kind of an aggregator, but he picks the articles and has been accused of being a commie spy. so what that actually means is that he's a centrist who knows what's up.

ミ💙🅟 🅛 🅤 🅡 🅜 🅑💙彡 (Austin), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link

And they stand in stark contrast to comments from California Gov. Gavin Newsom, who started the lockdown fetish in America and who still stubbornly claims that he did everything right.

(Disclaimer: as a lawyer, I am litigating a case that seeks to require that Newsom end the statewide Covid-19 emergency that has been in place since March 2020.)

You can't spell Fearless without Earle (President Keyes), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 21:30 (one year ago) link

Fucking Dr. Oz cannot stop setting himself on fire:

Dr. Oz On Incest: More Than First Cousin? 'Not A Big Problem.'

The problem with being a celebrity before you enter politics is that you’ve definitely already said too much. And considering that Dr. Mehmet Oz, the Republican nominee for the Pennsylvania Senate, has already been saying too much as a candidate, you know the things coming out of his mouth must have been pretty bad before.

In an interview with morning radio show The Breakfast Club in February 2014, host Angela Yee asked Oz to weigh in on a question sent in by a listener about someone struggling with an incestuous relationship.

“I’m going to ask you this and you tell me if this is safe for this person, okay?” Yee prompted Oz. “Well, he said, ‘Yee, I can’t stop smashing my cousin.’ That means sleeping with.” (Thank you, Yee.)

She continued to read out the question: “‘We hooked up at a young age and now in our 20s, she still wants it. No matter how much I want to stop, I always give it to her. Help me.’ What advice would you give that person?”

Hm. I might refer them to counseling about how to rebuild proper familial relationships and set boundaries. But Oz took it in a different direction:

Oz: If you’re more than a first cousin away, it’s not a big problem.

Yee: Okay, so second cousin is fine to smash.

Charlamagne: It’s so funny, cause I knew that.

DJ Envy: How did you know that?

Charlamagne: Cause I’m from the country! Third cousins?

Oz: Yeah. It’s fine.

Keep reading at the link. It actually gets creepier.

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 22:06 (one year ago) link

The smell thing

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 23:11 (one year ago) link

He’s off to see the wizard, as it were

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 23:31 (one year ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=erg2vyJ2UOk

papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 23:32 (one year ago) link

And yet, I would not be at all surprised if the election were close, or indeed if Oz won.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 6 September 2022 23:51 (one year ago) link


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