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I though the "surrealism" part of dan's post was pretty key and disqualifies most of these suggestions (no offense), including mine tbf. Atlanta was the only show that RD truly reminded me of (haven't seen Better Things)

Yeah, the surrealism part was key. Maybe that's the special something the handful of other suggested shows here lack? Or maybe just the hook of relatively underrepresented people? Or maybe the fact that Atlanta and Reservation Dogs are, unlike Brockmire, You're the Worst, Girls or whatever, not just jam packed with imo assholes?

I've heard great things about Better Things, should dive in!

I May Destroy You seems to fit the bill of what Dan describes (I don’t know about “surrealism” necessarily, but it has flashbacks and fantasies and whatnot).

I think there is definitely a model of a “auteurist” TV show these days, with that particular mix of elements.

As brilliant as IMDY was, I have a hard time thinking of it as even a quasi-comedy...though I don't know, maybe it was funnier than I'm remembering?

The reason I linked RD and Atlanta (fwiw I've only seen the first season of both shows) was the tone and the magical realist touches—not so much the characters. To Josh's point though, I have far more affection for RD's characters than those on Atlanta. And I wouldn't say Brockmire, which I liked a lot, is jam packed with assholes! I agree it isn't much like RD.

Been a while since I watched it, but maybe Enlightened would fit—it wasn't really surreal, iirc, but it was going for a kind of poetic tone that felt a little dreamy at times. I think that's why I thought of High Maintenance. These shows are "literary" (sorry) while also cinematic in a way that is good not bad

IMDY definitely had humor, but yeah it’s darker overall than some of these others.

I should probably rewatch that at some point

It isn't surreal, but people into the broader dramedy / naturalist indie film vibe we're describing here might like Somebody Somewhere

I think I watched the first season of Brockmire, or at least the first several episodes, and isn't the title character a big ... asshole? At least that's how I remember him, as someone I didn't want to spend any more time with. Even though you are not the first to say the show evolves. Same with, I don't know, BoJack Horseman. The praise is out of this world, but I didn't make it to any sort of compelling turning point that made me want to watch more.

This is reductive: but I'd say the basic point of Brockmire is him changing while the basic point of Bojack is him not. Though I mainly just meant not every character in Brockmire is an asshole, which I thought "jam packed with assholes" implied (a phrase better applied to a show like Succession or idk Girls). I think we'd have to have a larger conversation about what an asshole is lol before I could fully weigh in on Brockmire

https://c.tenor.com/PaSLTGPVLvQAAAAC/detector-asshole-detector.gif

theres some really touching stuff in the last couple seasons of brockmire.

totally. That third season is esp great, with Simmons's season arc a microcosm of the show's overall trajectory

OTOH if you watched the first season and didn't enjoy Azaria's performance at all, idk if sticking with it makes sense. At a basic level you need to enjoy the writing & delivery

didn't mean to imply erasure, Louie cocreated/wrote/produced the show but it continued without him and got better fwiw, and I did make the point that some degree of this atmosphere of these shows owe a great deal to his show.

But as much as I like plenty of these other shows, it's definitely different. Like Girls has characters and scenes I could relate to for sure (having my own experiences with Oberlin and Brooklyn) but is mostly ridiculous and melodramatic. These shows are more likely to have like, ghosts, entire episodes focusing on things seemingly unconnected to any sort of plot/narrative etc, more focus on like, local color and atmosphere, they're just more "poetic" or something.

finally finished the Resort which was incredible and magical right up to the final episode when it fucking dropped the ball and seemed completely rushed; crushing disappointment. Not sure what happened there.

I'm laid up in front of a Cable-equipped TV this weekend, and the Paramount Channel is running a series run marathon of Yellowstone (which iirc is the big ticket attraction on Paramount+)--I can see why this is so popular: it's basically a Dallas-style trashy primetime soap about The Worst People In The World© run through the Breaking Bad filter with plenty of profanity, random violence, and fantastic visual imagery. Costner's got that grumbly late-period Eastwood old dude swag thing going on. Good Red Dirt stuff on the soundtrack.

i can’t decide if i should try it or not

i watched an episode or two and see the appeal but the dialogue writing was so. fucking. bad.

i saw the first episode of the most recent season and admit I thought it was pretty riveting, will eventually probably go back and try to watch the whole thing

Cheese with his own episode of Reservation Dogs. Perfect.

I’m catching up. Slightly surprised at the amount of Spacemen 3 in episode 3!!

Lol @ Thomas Mars & Sofia Coppola on last week's What We Do In The Shadows

and Jim Jarmusch!

loved Gizmo's reaction at the end of this season

I happened to catch the last few minutes of the wedding episode, and lost my sh1t over the song they played for Nandor…

OK, I'm in for The Peripheral. (I loved the book, so I'm a little wary, but why not?)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94fGHj2z8Kk

What We Do In The Shadows is on real TV, not a streaming service, and has an active thread, fyi

It's on Hulu. Real TV doesn't exist.

that was a great RD episode

"why do you talk like a white girl's instagram?"

i’m guiltily enjoying The Old Man fwiw

how the hell has John Lithgow managed to look the same for 35 years

like they could easily have just used Lithgow himself to play the young Lithgow

that said the guy they got to play young Lithgow sounds EXACTLY like Lithgow, so much so that the guy they got to play young Bridges has to be kinda mad about it because he’s about two continents away from sounding like Bridges

Haven't seen The Old Man yet, but I had to check and see if they cast Ian Lithgow, John's real life son, like they did in Perry Mason. Nope.

also very excited about the Peripheral, which I hope will knock Johnny Mnemonic off the "best Gibson screen adaptation" throne.

They're sticking this over on Disney+?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRuwjZJ-DQw

The movie Moonfall is on HBO Max and I watched it tonight and laughed my ass off. Highly recommended if you're in the mood for something that is absolutely bonkers and dumb as shit. Easily my favorite scene is when Halle Berry (playing the head of NASA!) is asking disgraced astronaut Patrick Wilson to help her save the world, which is being attacked by the moon, and he turns away from the giant picture window, outside of which is...pretty much the apocalypse...and says, "I've got my own problems, you know!"

it’s deeply stupid & weirdly enjoyable
it’s no Deep Impact or The Core but is adjacent to those kind of vibes

Watching the Hammer House of Horror series via Shudder - not quite as campy as '60s Hammer but still made with a $150 budget, surprisingly enjoyable overall.

Yeah, The Core is always gonna be the greatest of these dumbass science-adventure-disaster movies, but Moonfall is right up there.

I'm sure it's mentioned upthread but I had either missed or forgotten about Rian Johnson's episodic Poker Face series starring Natasha Lyonne for Peacock, still being filmed. Get a load of this cast!

Natasha Lyonne
Joseph Gordon-Levitt
Stephanie Hsu
David Castañeda
Benjamin Bratt
Adrien Brody
Danielle Macdonald
Dascha Polanco
Lil Rel Howery
Ellen Barkin[3]
Chloë Sevigny
Jameela Jamil
Tim Meadows
Nicholas Cirillo
Audrey Corsa
Niall Cunningham
Simon Helberg
S. Epatha Merkerson
Judith Light
Nick Nolte
Ron Perlman
Charles Melton
Tim Blake Nelson

Just posted now:

Back on the Poker Face set and it’s going great pic.twitter.com/XJgI1SqUPf

— Rian Johnson (@rianjohnson) September 12, 2022

Showtime Sets ‘Lincoln Project’ Docuseries https://t.co/UU13aF3vfF

— The Hollywood Reporter (@THR) September 12, 2022

why

can we kick in to a pool to pay these streamers not to make certain shows?

Maybe it can be about the one guy who turned out to be an abuser, which, whoops.

I want to find out how they got their powers

Fucking Reservation Dogs just gets better every episode. A whole episode about Big! Hilarious and tragic! And featuring the return of Deer Lady!

yeah that was incredible
Bohemian Grove parody was hysterical

actually thought that episode was kind of a drop, but still better than 99% of TV out there.

all the kids spitting up their fish at the end was hilarious.

I'm usually not at all a fan of "Let's get straitlaced character X high!" storylines, but this one worked really well. I also loved that even the other tribal cops are weary of Big's YouTube-conspiracy-video BS.

I know RD isn't exactly a suspense thriller but could you all start a thread? I haven't gotten to this season yet and don't want to know these details

Blade Runner 2099 and a Butch & Sundance series coming from Amazon, guaranteed to suck

Blade Runner 1899 starring Butch and Sundance

SYNERGY!