who is worse - Taibbi or Greenwald

I think Greenwald is worse but they're both afflicted with weird Trump/Russia stuff that I can't totally figure out.

― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, August 15, 2022 10:25 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

its just careerism, theyre making way more than they ever did with less work selling newsletters, and theyre both excitable reactionaries without strong politics so it wasnt hard for them to make the pivot when the opportunity presented itself

they were both also fired so they needed to do something

Greenwald has his 87 dogs though

who let the dogs out (glenn did glenn did) (87 of them)

I wonder what Pareene thinks of Taibbi's trajectory

The size of a man's trajectory should tell you nothing about him.

BTE

Greenwald has his 87 dogs though

Automatic thread bump. This poll is closing tomorrow.

Taibbi is putting in his best effort to win this poll.

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straight reprinting the lamest gop talking points

Biden’s handlers had the otherwise inspiring setting of Philadelphia’s Independence Hall bathed in so much blood-red light, he looked like an opening act for Queensrÿche or Rammstein. https://t.co/i8DT7g1kKv

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) September 3, 2022

love too criminalize crimes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FbwDCD_XwAMVW5W?format=jpg&name=small

first they came for the criminals and i published a newsletter

Bringing the war on terror home? Is this an article from 2004 about the FBI setting up Muslims for bombings that were never going to happen?

The speech Biden’s primetime gambit most resembled was the great demented clarion call of our age, George W. Bush’s 2002 State of the Union address: https://t.co/i8DT7g1kKv

— Matt Taibbi (@mtaibbi) September 3, 2022

This motherfucker whined for years about overheated #resistance rhetoric and this is what he thinks about Biden’s thousandth call for civility?

GG in particular has been very concerned about Brandon’s imminent mass arrests of anyone who had a Trump bumper sticker.

starting to think these guys might be racist

Which is worse--poop with corn or poop with peanuts?

Not sure where else to put this. David Sacks's newish podcast network Callin is where all the contrarians like this (e.g., Michael Tracey, Aaron Mate, etc.) have flocked to.

they were offered upfront payment I believe

Indistinguishable now

The sleazy, pro-censorship pack of liberal employees of media corporations united last night to attack @mtaibbi -- as they do to any journalist who breaks a real story about real power centers -- and, because they were so desperate to discredit it, showed what they are. Watch: pic.twitter.com/DWEIL70G1h

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) December 3, 2022

greenwalds tone is so crazy and hes constantly accusing people of terrible things

for lols (lulz?) I want a podcast of Taibbi, Greenwald and Armond White.

god no

No I'd be fine with that, if they had to record in a vault at the bottom of the ocean and somehow all the tapes were lost and so was the key.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TNHUMtW0uso

I think Glenn's thread there is longer than Taibbi's original

The thing is—Taibbi usually sounds fairly sane on a podcast (remember he used to do one with Alex Pareene) but Greenwald is constantly in Drudge Siren mode

I like how Glenn thinks journalism is having stuff handed to you. Taibbi was obviously not going through Twitter’s garbage.

a+ tweet 100%

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FjO9XDpXwBw1QXJ?format=jpg&name=large

i fucking wish

"Stochastic terrorism" LOL

No one's impressed by your ability to string big-sounding words together, Glenn.

it's a joke

it's a bad joke bcz he's a bad writer with a tin ear for parody -- or indeed the meaning of prose generally (his own and anyone else's) -- but he's mocking the use of the term stochastic terrorism by others, of e.g. libs of tik tok

People who have no sense of humor should not try to make jokes.

Isn’t the difference that Libs of Tik Tok basically goes after regular people because they ages LGBT+ and not public figures like Taibbi being owned for being dumb?

- because they are—

Can’t believe Taibbi was doxxed as a journalist. They even posted a link to his newsletter.

I think Glenn Greenwald of all people shouldn’t be joking about/commenting on putting other people in harm’s way (see: his husband, Reality Winner) unless it’s to give tips on how to be more effective at it

I’m not even sure what his point is, since he freaked out in this exact way about Taylor Lorenz publishing the name of the LoTT cretin

i think it's actually yet another hit at taylor lorenz (who i believe helped popularise "stochastic terrorism" when reporting on LoTT)

he's taking her critique of LoTT (viz "stochastic terrorism" blah blah), and making the (implied) joke that if it's was bad to attack lorenz then it must also bad (and hypocritical) to attack taibbi. that's the structure of his sarcasm anyway.

his position on lorenz is basically that it's fine that she gets attacked by his (and tucker's) orcs, she's a public figure working for corporate media. attacking taibbi isn't bad bcz taibbi finds it stressful or terrifying, it's bad bcz it reveals you as partisan against independnent citizen journalism and a lapdog for the corporate media

it doesn't land bcz (a) he's a terrible writer whose tantrums step on his use of humour and (b) bcz it's very obvious he's chucking literally everything at the wall to gain the hunter dickpic scandal more momentum than it seems to be getting

adding: not quite sure why i'm here analysing jokes that aren't working told by someone i think is a vast toxic idiot never not acting in bad faith

If I don't see more Hunter dick pix tout suite I'm voting Trump in '24.

Taibbi’s face in that tweet kinda reminds me of Ralph Meeker in Kiss Me Deadly when he’s gleefully slamming an old man’s hand in a desk drawer.

also lol when did taibbi last still have even that much hair

it's not the crime it's the cover-up

hold on all this hunter biden laptop stuff is all about photos of someone's penis?

— 🍅 (@turtlekiosk) December 4, 2022

Touché, turtlekiosk. #onethread

You conduct yourself *very* differently when speaking to someone than talking about them on social media. Maybe we all do, but you really do. Feel free to attack me, mock, criticize away: all good.But try not to knowingly distort what I said for cheap, ephemeral Twitter applause.

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) December 6, 2022

oh

Y'all just piss on me, shit on me, spit on my grave
Talk about me, laugh behind my back, but in my face
Y'all some well-wishers, friendly-acting, envy-hiding snakes

i just couldn’t figure out whether you were applauding the fact that people believe these stories or merely stating that they believe them

Yes, being descriptive not normative, and definitely not applauding. I could have phrased better

I don't really think this is all that much to do with "the conservative mind". I used to, but now I think its much more generalised than that.

The internet has made us even stupider as a species

I think stupidity is a part of it, but also the way language works and the way we use flexible shortcuts, the literal truth of them often isn't meant. But we know what is really meant (tho can anyone get annoyed if someone else doesn't?). Bernie described himself as a socialist, but no one gets all "well actually" about it. Its not meant in a literal sense, and people implicitly understand that. Except when they don't.

You have to meet people where they are with the terms and framing they use

do you?

your entire shtick here is just like an exercise in rhetoric, right? i found most of what you've posted to be utterly vacuous.

TYT has earned one eyeroll after the next for as long as I've heard of them - being a midpoint between Democracy Now and MSNBC while run by half-wit egomaniacs limits your brand growth.

You love to see it:

Ranking Member Kamlager-Dove calls GOP witness Matt Taibbi a "serial sexual harasser" and enters articles into the congressional record about his history as a sex pest

https://bsky.app/profile/atrupar.com/post/3llr2v5wu3s23

https://bsky.app/profile/nytpitchbot.bsky.social/post/3llprsvndns2p

uh oh, Taibbi was not pleased with the congresswoman's words

https://bsky.app/profile/noupside.bsky.social/post/3llwp5nouak2fp

About the videos: pic.twitter.com/TfkSyWowMJ

— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) May 30, 2025

"I will continue the many prongs of my journalism."

The mighty prong of the free press will not go limp

Its so weird that he didnt have this reaction when Hunter Biden’s private sex stuff got leaked. Its not like Glenn to have double standards about this kind of stuff, hope he’s ok

Wouldn't wish this on anyone, though.

I'm always surprised when someone who takes on billionaires and governments still does anything sexual with a camera nearby. This one, with its findom/humiliation side, reminds me of Toobin as much as anything.

there is not enough money in this or any other world to make me want to voluntarily know anything about the contents of Glenn Greenwald's sex videos

yeah its objectively a bad thing to happen to anyone but definitely filing this under "couldnt happen to a nicer guy", plus ofc if the same material leaked of a politician or even another journo that he didnt like, he would be chaining himself to a cross on the white house lawn to protest the fact that CNN wasnt broadcasting the uncensored tape twice a day

I disagree with and more than disagree with so many things you've said and done over the years, Glenn. But this is 100% your own business. And I applaud and support your telling everyone that.

— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) May 30, 2025

it is a weird situation in which he RT'd a frame from one of the videos first, then deleted it; and, given the described content of the video (self-abasement/findom), the longer post itself may be part of a dynamic? pretty odd.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arbuX0CHLyU

damn u JCLC for making me consider the “about the videos” note is also part of the kink