Can't find a YT of it, but Nichelle Nichols has a small, but memorable part in Mister Buddwing - a 1966 film where amnesiac James Garner wanders the streets of Manhattan in search of his identity while a hip Kenyon Hopkins soundtrack plays.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 09:50 (one year ago) link
she also plays the villain in the fun Isaac Hayes film Truck Turner
― Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 17:28 (one year ago) link
Got the hyperfancy boxset of the updated Motion Picture cut and no regrets. But even the basic one will get you the new commentary from the production team (aka the ones who worked with Wise on the original director's cut as well) and some good short documentary stuff and more deleted scenes/behind the scenes/technical stuff.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 19 September 2022 02:52 (one year ago) link
stumbling upon this (already ten year old) rememberance from my buddy bob greenberger reminded me that i was at the 1st star trek convention. i am the "cohort" he mentions; we were in the same grade in school.https://www.startrek.com/article/celebrating-40-years-since-treks-1st-convention
― Thus Sang Freud, Monday, 19 September 2022 11:34 (one year ago) link
The modern Star Trek family now includes an ongoing series for every taste: Discovery for those who enjoy the high stakes and high drama of the modern feature films, Strange New Worlds for those who prefer the classic format and a lighter touch, Lower Decks for die-hard, trivia-loving Trekkies, Prodigy for young newcomers looking for an introduction to the universe, and Picard for… someone, theoretically.
https://www.polygon.com/23345284/star-trek-tv-show-best-start
― Antifa Lockhart (Leee), Tuesday, 27 September 2022 23:59 (one year ago) link
Discovery for those who enjoy the high stakes and high drama of the modern feature films
psh, I like the Abrams Treks but Discovery is still pretty much unwatchable
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 28 September 2022 02:01 (one year ago) link
Hello — so I finished all 7 seasons of NextGen : D I am more of a fan of the series (and understand more references on Lower Decks now) but I will say that as a whole it felt kinda unsatisfying- not enough arcs? like i **loved** any of the klingon arcs, or what little they did w the borg but sooooo many one-off faffing about episodes got a bit tedious personally. that being said i get why people love it & why there’s such a diehard fanbase but i think for TNG ~for me~ it may also come down to a “you had to be there”? there’s not a lot of visual charm. hotel conference center chic doesn’t really do it for me interior-wise, having lived through the 90’s i dont have nostalgia for that specifically lolbut inject Whoopi’s Guinan into my veins, i love her forever obv And now… onto Voyager. http://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0575/8445/1743/products/plateshimmer_3_1200x1200.gif?v=1630002099
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 October 2022 06:03 (one year ago) link
(i assume you’ve already watched ds9?)
voyager is not great but it has its moments, most of which involve either the doctor or seven of nine (and the latter only shows up in season four)
brad dourif tho
― mookieproof, Saturday, 29 October 2022 06:25 (one year ago) link
also you can and absolutely should skip the two ‘holodeck irish village’ episodes, because good lord
― mookieproof, Saturday, 29 October 2022 06:31 (one year ago) link
I have to say that out of all the previous Treks, I think Disco shares the most with Voyager in terms of writing and not really laying down the basis for interesting characters. It was also corny in a way that couldn't abide by.
― Bysshe Better Have My Money (Leee), Saturday, 29 October 2022 06:34 (one year ago) link
> voyager is not great but it has its moments, most of which involve either the doctor or seven of nine
"this creature has an exoskeleton"
― koogs, Saturday, 29 October 2022 07:13 (one year ago) link
yes i’ve already seen DS9 a couple of times (that was the first series I ever fully dug into start to finish when it first came out on dvd & they had those cool season box sets)
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 October 2022 07:35 (one year ago) link
my impression of voyager s1 two-parter is that the quotient of mildly attractive guys (paris, chakotay, kim, tuvok kinda) is already much higher in this show than TNG so they have my interest
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Saturday, 29 October 2022 07:38 (one year ago) link
still on my first watchthru of TNG. i'm taking my time with it, started in the summer, currently at the beginning of s4
i love it so much, really don't want it to end. i know i'll rewatch it but i'm trying to savour every moment
i've read that people suggest skipping s1 and s2, which is insane to me. they're so great
i know what you mean about the one-off episodes, VG. some are clunkers. and sometimes there are multiple in a row that can be a real drag. but the cast is so strong that they make all but the worst episodes worthwhile imo
borg are just incredible. i'm kind of shocked those episodes aired on regular tv in 1989. they're scary!
― flopson, Saturday, 29 October 2022 09:17 (one year ago) link
that being said i get why people love it & why there’s such a diehard fanbase but i think for TNG ~for me~ it may also come down to a “you had to be there”?
It really was a case of an accident working out, in many ways, and retrospectively the gamble on a non-network/non-cable live action series -- it was syndicated! insane to think about from this distance -- was kinda nuts; there's no way that Babylon 5 would have gotten any similar traction with their path if TNG hadn't shown it could be done, and I very much doubt an original non-franchise series could have been the trailblazer too. And in practical terms there really wasn't anything else around out there that fit the bill -- I'm wracking my brain to think of what other mid-late 80s new TV sf was out there pre- or just after TNG hit and all I can think of are the 80s Twilight Zone as well as Amazing Stories and of course both were anthologies; V as a TV series had only lasted a season and was done in '85. TNG really had the field to itself as best as I can remember, so a lot of people invested in it and I sure did out of the gate. (The great exception for a lot of us would probably be Robotech but of course that was its own hammered-together mythos for an American audience as well as being animation; add on Transformers et al if you like but the point remains that TNG as live action held its own space for a while there.)
― Ned Raggett, Saturday, 29 October 2022 14:18 (one year ago) link
I like Voyager, the show is much more about the characters’ relationships than in TNG— of course I like TNG better, but a deep soft spot for Voyager
― poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Sunday, 30 October 2022 13:16 (one year ago) link
Table otm voyager is lovely 7, doc, tuvok, neelix all great characters IMO Yes almost all of the humans are awful but the non humans carry it
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Monday, 31 October 2022 02:16 (one year ago) link
tuvix
― mh, Monday, 31 October 2022 13:41 (one year ago) link
Poor Picard - he had to go through a lot of shit.Riker had a much better time.
― | (Latham Green), Monday, 31 October 2022 14:45 (one year ago) link
FWIW
https://trekmovie.com/2022/10/28/kate-mulgrew-reveals-the-conditions-she-gave-alex-kurtzman-for-a-return-as-live-action-janeway/
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 31 October 2022 14:46 (one year ago) link
"There’s been a hue and a cry of late." Im always pleased to see this phrase used
― | (Latham Green), Monday, 31 October 2022 15:08 (one year ago) link
It’s weird to say Mulgrew was undeserved by seven seasons of an hourlong show in which she was the top-billed character, but imo the character really lacked definition except for rare moments of kickassitude when under duress. But seemed like a waste of a good performer.
― Chuck_Tatum, Monday, 31 October 2022 15:32 (one year ago) link
Is Mulgrew subtweeeting Picard?
― Rabbity Gainsborough (Leee), Monday, 31 October 2022 17:19 (one year ago) link
We need a passionate love affair between Picard and Janeway on the holodeck (and then the real Janeway discovers it)
― | (Latham Green), Monday, 31 October 2022 18:27 (one year ago) link
Passionate love affair between picard and katie o’claire
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Monday, 31 October 2022 20:17 (one year ago) link
Sorry - katie o’clare
― realistic pillow (Jon not Jon), Monday, 31 October 2022 20:20 (one year ago) link
Passionate love affair between Janeway and Seven much more appealing, just saying— Seven as hard femme top and Janeway as soft femme bottom, whew. (My dyke friends agree with me).
― poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Monday, 31 October 2022 20:29 (one year ago) link
supposedly mulgrew was furious when jeri ryan was brought on and personally treated her like shit. so make it a hate fuck
― mookieproof, Monday, 31 October 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link
If Geneviève Bujold had stuck with the gig, Janeway and Picard could have ended up shouting weird space French at each other.
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, 1 November 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link
lol
― Regex Dwight (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 01:02 (one year ago) link
Mr DAta is fully functional
― | (Latham Green), Tuesday, 1 November 2022 12:53 (one year ago) link
interesting re: Mulgrew and Ryan, the scenes they did as their relationship developed were really great and felt quite believable ! good acting
― poppin' debussy (the table is the table), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link
Was listening to a podcast the other day where they were talking about how these days if they're recommended a show and find out it's like 5 seasons, 10 eps it's "fuck no that's too much", but seven seasons of twenty five ep Star Trek shows they can just rewatch over and over. OTM imo.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 11:02 (one year ago) link
I started bingeing TNG in 2015 and I'm... still on season 4? I think my rewatch is going to take longer than the actual show
I've been quicker with DS9 (on season 3 after a year)
What helps with Trek is that there are always skippable episodes and it's okay if you have a quick snooze during parts of them
Whereas several seasons of, say, The Americans is less time than rewatching Voyager but demands a lot more ATTENTION
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 12:01 (one year ago) link
Yeah, we're watching the Americans at the moment (a rewatch for me) and sometimes we have to take a break for a week or so because it's so GRIM. And then we have to watch the recaps so that we can remember where the hell we were. With TNG, as you say, you can wander in and out, fold laundry, cook dinner, have a nap, and still follow what's happening. And it doesn't matter because it all resets in the next episode anyway. Winner.
― trishyb, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 12:10 (one year ago) link
Yes. Feature not a bug, if it's still okay to use that cliche.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 12:35 (one year ago) link
Big reason why Strange New Worlds hit so well. While there’s more active storylines across episodes for sure, each one had its self-contained story regardless, so in respects it nicely handles old and new.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 13:06 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EJHn8-O7mJA
― MaresNest, Wednesday, 2 November 2022 13:08 (one year ago) link
I like the times Picard in TNG has do things that seem out of character just because that's what the script says - like when he learns an Admiral ciommited graves offenses and he's just kind of like "yeesh! what were you thinking! instead of informing starflettALso Jameson reminds me of "Itchy" from teh wookie christmas special
Too Short a Season
― | (Latham Green), Wednesday, 2 November 2022 16:07 (one year ago) link
Still slogging thru DS9 when I find time. Latest watch was "Time's Orphan" (I skipped "profit and lace" cos I hate Ferengi eps).
This epsiode was... alarming! Molly is pulled into some time portal, becomes a feral with no language or social skills (this makes no sense, she was EIGHT when this happened, not a baby), so their solution is not to resocialize her, not to give her therapy, not to hand her tp caring family or specialists but... send her back into the wormhole to deal with it on her own gbye Molly.
WAHT.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 11 November 2022 00:17 (one year ago) link
That’s life in the wormhole. I was watching DS nine when it was on Amazon prime video and it got wiskeda way to Paramount plus. I have paramount plus but I had long advertisements. I guess you have to pay even more to get the ads to go away?
― | (Latham Green), Friday, 11 November 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link
No I'm watching it on netflix?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 11 November 2022 00:31 (one year ago) link
i’m still enjoying Voyager sbut we’re only early days, slowly into first third of s1 Every epsode I watch I’m newly horrified by Kess’s wig. It’s upsetting.I love it whenever Janeway just says “fuck it, let’s blast them.” She’s very good.
― werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Friday, 11 November 2022 00:48 (one year ago) link
Better be coffee in that nebula.
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Friday, 11 November 2022 00:50 (one year ago) link
In terms of questionable DS9 decisions, remember when they made the atmosphere unliveable for Cardassians on some planet so they could switch it over for another planet the Cardassians had made uninhabitable for humans? Was totally convinced they were bluffing but no, they went full chemical warfare!
― Daniel_Rf, Friday, 11 November 2022 10:59 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VMyePEToYE
― MaresNest, Monday, 12 December 2022 12:13 (one year ago) link
I was surprised to learn industrial light and magic made a physical enterprise for STNG I assumed it was cgi - it seems like something to make easily with cgi
― | (Latham Green), Tuesday, 13 December 2022 21:29 (one year ago) link
Not back in the mid-80s, even 'just' for TV.
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 13 December 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link
Yeah, look how fake the ships in Babylon 5 look now, which started just as TNG was finishing
― groovypanda, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 06:41 (one year ago) link
For a show that seemed like it had no aesthetic at the time, it has a hell of an aesthetic. So much more than “HR boardroom in space”. A too short period of time, post-80s macho but pre-90s irony.
― Chuck_Tatum, Wednesday, 14 December 2022 09:49 (one year ago) link