It's a blog.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 17:42 (eighteen years ago)
ok...
― s1ocki, Friday, 16 May 2008 17:42 (eighteen years ago)
i guess i just dont think it's a problem full stop. who cares if 80% of newspaper critics dont like speed racer
― s1ocki, Friday, 16 May 2008 17:43 (eighteen years ago)
I mean, not to be completely defeatist about it, but yes, the writing aspect would raise my ire a lot more if it appeared in Film Comment or something. But in blog form, I'm almost always paying more attention to whatever it is the writer's trying to convey.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 17:45 (eighteen years ago)
I'm not arguing that stripping the entry of all reference to specific films would've done a lot more to bolster his argument.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 17:46 (eighteen years ago)
that's what i was trying to do too! hard to take bad writing about bad writing seriously tho. i'm not even sure what exactly he's saying.
― s1ocki, Friday, 16 May 2008 17:47 (eighteen years ago)
(Then again, in reading it again, that would've removed about 80% of the content.)
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 17:47 (eighteen years ago)
reference to specific articles would have helped. his ideas are almost completely unsupported.
― s1ocki, Friday, 16 May 2008 17:48 (eighteen years ago)
it's a blog.
what year did "unpack" become a synonym for deconstruct? sounds like work.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 May 2008 17:50 (eighteen years ago)
isn't the whole post just about being hypersensitive to the sensation that talking about films in most internet quarters is a matter of liking the movies/filmmakers with cred and tearing down the usual suspects? It's all a completely subjective stance anyway.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 17:52 (eighteen years ago)
On another note, the idea that the relentlessly self-assured Mike D'Angelo and his vocational nine lives can't even get work as a freelance critic these days has me pretty down in the dumps about the scene.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 17:53 (eighteen years ago)
i guess it's just not an issue i'm too passionate about haha! xp
― s1ocki, Friday, 16 May 2008 17:53 (eighteen years ago)
ya i'm holding onto my staff job with my fingernails.
(as well as thinking about other options just in case...)
― s1ocki, Friday, 16 May 2008 17:54 (eighteen years ago)
although to be honest my job involves editing & planning, i'm a section editor and not just a staff critic.
which would be a sweet job.
Honestly, I can see why it's an anomaly such things exist.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 17:55 (eighteen years ago)
And I have to hope that's not just schadenfreude talking.
(FT film critic jobs, I mean)
ya. it's really NOT full-time work unless you take 8-16 hours to write a review.
― s1ocki, Friday, 16 May 2008 17:56 (eighteen years ago)
That's exactly what MDA admitted on his blog. He said it was rare he ever put more than 15 hours in a week on the gig.
It could probably be more if you're the sole critic for a city paper. Chris Hewitt at the St. Paul Pioneer Press handles the duties entirely by himself, to the tune of 8-10 movies a week sometimes.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 18:00 (eighteen years ago)
xp: How about 4 hours?
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 May 2008 18:01 (eighteen years ago)
If I've ever taken longer than an hour or two on a review, it's because my computer is connected to the Internet and it's entirely too easy to get distracted. That said, I'm sure I've had a draft open for 8 hours every now and again, especially when I feel like I have to make the review 1500 words or more for those features, et al.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 18:03 (eighteen years ago)
I'm just perpetually out of practice, tho. When we were doing the Brian De Palma thing and I had to do about half of the reviews myself, I ended up banging out 1000 words pretty quickly.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 18:04 (eighteen years ago)
i write ridiculously fast (and i'm sure it shows!)
― s1ocki, Friday, 16 May 2008 18:05 (eighteen years ago)
A lot of the reviews I write fast are the ones that my editors like the best, but are also the ones I feel the worst about.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 18:08 (eighteen years ago)
When it comes down to it, even editors at alts are probably fine, thanks, without the writerly BS.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 18:09 (eighteen years ago)
how do you mean?
― s1ocki, Friday, 16 May 2008 18:10 (eighteen years ago)
I mean, if I give myself enough time, that's when I start making conscious "decisions" (to put it nicely) as a "writer" and adopting weird structural strategies, rather than just getting the damned review out on paper. And then it comes back with one paragraph annotated with a note from the editor saying something like "couldn't you just write 'The dog jumped over the fence.' here?" ... Exaggeration, but you know.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 18:12 (eighteen years ago)
Most of my most liked reviews and essays are the ones I bang out the fastest – the equivalent of a band's B-side or single recorded for commercial reasons.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 16 May 2008 18:19 (eighteen years ago)
Eric OTM about how quickly one can write blurbs for weeklong or daylong features.
Seriously, if you're in practice and in routine (and work for a paper where your editorial staff remind you that sticking to appraisals of the story/script/performances is best), I can't imagine how easy it would be to be a FT blurbslinger.
But also how easy it would be to burn out on it.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 18:22 (eighteen years ago)
Just ask Dickens.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 16 May 2008 18:26 (eighteen years ago)
Like my man Chuck D said What a blogger know?
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Friday, 16 May 2008 18:29 (eighteen years ago)
I don't even try to write well until I rewrite.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 May 2008 18:41 (eighteen years ago)
Now that's where I think taking a little extra time isn't a bad thing, because I always hand in my first draft.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 18:45 (eighteen years ago)
I've read too much Henry James to let anyone look over my shoulder.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 16 May 2008 18:48 (eighteen years ago)
I think I went to the dictionary at least once in the midst of Eric's last Disney DVD review.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 May 2008 19:05 (eighteen years ago)
haha!
― s1ocki, Friday, 16 May 2008 19:14 (eighteen years ago)
-- Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, May 16, 2008 6:19 PM (55 minutes ago) Bookmark Link
ya!
i think it really helps you as a writer to have to write lots of short fast things.
― s1ocki, Friday, 16 May 2008 19:15 (eighteen years ago)
Writing short is harder, for sure.
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 May 2008 19:15 (eighteen years ago)
Which word, MREs?
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 19:26 (eighteen years ago)
I think the only word I ever really stumped Ed on may have been crepuscular.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 19:27 (eighteen years ago)
Ya, writing those 225 blurbs for City Pages was always a big chore. Those I would also send in as first drafts (at $30 a pop, I was not about to waste too much time on that), and frequently what I saw in print didn't even remotely resemble what I had submitted.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 19:28 (eighteen years ago)
The trick is to squeeze the snark-per-syllable (SPS) count betwixt the synopsis.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Friday, 16 May 2008 19:30 (eighteen years ago)
And as for speed, I guess I dunno. This was probably one of the quickest reviews I've turned out as of late, and I think it's also one of the laziest.
― Eric H., Friday, 16 May 2008 19:32 (eighteen years ago)
I really have come to hate being on the Disney beat.
I don't remember, it wasn't "MREs." I'm hoping to stump Ed with refs to the Don Adams sitcom in my Get Smart review.
The Disney beat? Did you lose a bet?
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 May 2008 19:34 (eighteen years ago)
xp Aristocats: OK, that'll do, I had to look up croque-monsieur!
(I saw that in '70 btw)
― Dr Morbius, Friday, 16 May 2008 19:37 (eighteen years ago)