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yeah, the entire thing was that Michael was really struggling and wanted to make a franchise, and figure out how to bring his brother into everything, but he just didn't have the ability to work it out

so he did what he did, but left Carmy with the ability to do his own thing with the seed money he never spent

They didn't say it outright, but I assumed Michael understood that pushing Carmy away would not only save him from getting mired in the family business but force him (via reverse psychology) to get even better at what he does. I'm hoping that Carmy got the hint from the brief but galvanizing note his brother left.

I guess in a show like this, leaving so much of this stuff unsaid works against the show. Because there are rational answers to all the questions I/we have, and it wouldn't take much work to add this context into the show so these points don't seem vague, but instead the show runner decided to use up screentime with negligibly successful fantasy scenes.

well, I mean, there is going to be another season.

xp A couple other things in that vein (things where the screenwriters wanted to show some moment, or move the plot in a certain direction, but didn't really fill out the supporting details):

1. What "drug deal" is it that Richie does where he can clear $8K in profit in like one day, and then just walk away?

2. How did the money get in the cans? Seems like a very elaborate scheme! Did Michael know someone at the San Marzano cannery?

3. Risotto requires a person standing in front of the stove the entire time it is cooking. How would this possibly be a good financial idea? What's next? Are they going to start making zabaglione for dessert?

2. Apparently restaurants have canning machines that are pretty easy to use.
3. I've made risotto in my instant pot and it was fine, so maybe Sydney used a pressure cooker?

"2. How did the money get in the cans? Seems like a very elaborate scheme! Did Michael know someone at the San Marzano cannery?" in the article linked above, the showrunner stated that 'they' had a can re-sealer. that's the sort of thing that seems sloppy and lame to me. KBL did? they are some can resealing company that can be trusted to put money in cans?

Re: risotto: true, which may also be part of why dude said 'no' to risotto on the menu

ilx: draining the fun out of perfectly good tv shows since forever

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how not to watch television

did you guys notice he said there were 42 cans but we only see them open 41 what is up with that

Anyone seen the new season of only murders? Loved the first one, but would rather tap out then watch an inferior second. Tell me it’s good!

i barely watched the first season and apparently missed the very ending of it becaue I was pretty confused when I started season 2. Hence, I only saw the first episode but it was good?

Did anybody else watch the HBO show Industry, about a bunch of attractive young people doing drugs and having sex while competing for jobs at a big London investment bank? I liked the first 8-episode season, but I don't know if I'm gonna watch Season 2, which premieres on Monday, because the protagonist was extremely unlikable. I think we're supposed to feel that she has Trauma from her Past and that's why she's a paranoid, hostile asshole to everyone and has near-breakdowns any time she faces an obstacle or fucks up, but...she's a paranoid, hostile asshole and it's very difficult to sympathize with her.

not I, I thought it looked awful but then I thought that about Succession originally too

I watched the first couple of episodes but it didn't really grab me tbh.

We watched the first 3 eps. of Only Murders S2... I thought it started slow but Ep. 3 was really good (we haven't turned back to it, though).

(They really should have done a longer recap of the twists & turns of S1; they keep referring back to events that made me think "oh yeah, I forgot about that")

i’m enjoying s2 of only murders … it took me a couple of eps to settle back in but it’s good!

I feel like the turnaround was shockingly fast! I'm not sure I'm ready for another one so soon.

We finished S2 of "The Great"... I can't think of a show with all-around better performances, the cast is just incredible

Things get pretty far-out at times (the content can be... "extreme"), but it's quite a show (again, I know this is old news for some)

The Great is totally great.

Could not get into The Great, despite loving The Favorite

i loved the first season of the great but keep forgetting to watch season 2. it's next on my list (prob not gonna have bandwidth for another hour-long show til better call saul ends)

NBCUniversal streaming service Peacock added zero paid subscribers in the second quarter of 2022 and lost 1 million monthly active accounts (MAAs) from Q1, according to second-quarter earnings Comcast reported today.

zero? how is that even possible?

I think it just means that subscriptions were effectively flat, as in for every new paid sub that signed up, they lost one.

i only have peacock because I can get it for free somehow, there are good things on there but it honestly should be like $2 and not $5.

Killing It is good.

xp that makes more sense, but the way that sentence reads makes it seem like they gained zero (not net zero, literal zero) and lost 1 million

i use it to watch Sanford and Son mainly

Undone - 2 seasons on Amazon - was excellent. Well-written, cool rotoscope animation, moving. And Bob Odenkirk !

And Rosa Salazar! And written by Kate Purdy and Raphael Bob-Waksberg from Bojack Horseman! It's baffling to me how little attention the show gets, Amazon has done a poor job promoting it

Hopefully surprising no one, there were reportedly lots of layoffs at the Coda Collection today.

Oh man I just realized what Prey is and I am stooooked for it, Friday can't come soon enough.

I'm cautious but I'm hearing really good things so far about Prey!

Oh, that’s cool, I hadn’t heard of that movie…

Can’t believe Dan Trachtenberg hasn’t directed a film since 10 Cloverfield Lane (which I thought was awesome)!

Btw – we’ve moved onto this HBO Max* series The Gilded Age, which is like a Neanderthal version of Downton Abbey… terrible writing, acting, directing; it’s ridiculous and fun to watch / laugh at.

(*Wikipedia says this trash is actually on regular HBO, believe it or not; so I guess not fit for this thread.)

the Resort on Peacock is thoroughly enjoyable so far.

xp idk, sounds like Neando could do a better job than that!

Gilded Age is definitely dull but I didn’t find it straight-up bad - ymmv

Baranksi & Coons were worth it for me

Yeah, I didn't think it was that bad besides very obviously trying to do nothing more than transplant Downton Abbey to NYC a few decades earlier. Some of the CGI is terrible and they uh play fast and loose with geography and architecture of the era, but I enjoyed it as a mindless fun,

i was mostly annoyed by how impossibly clean the streets & sidewalks are lol

HBO Max is expected to layoff around 70% of their development staff.

“Sounds like they’re not doing HBO Max scripted shows anymore with HBO taking over, so less scripted shows overall,” says one company insider.

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— DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) August 3, 2022

fully improvised Game of Thrones spin-offs plz

It took me awhile to realize that "Max Original" did not mean it was a show from Cinemax

mindless fun

Yes, this is key - it's somehow soothing to zone out to

These behemoths, they're going to put all their money into Game of Thrones, or Lord of the Rings, or other CGI shit with dragons, and it will turn out people are just done with that shit and have moved on, and they'll be like, oh shit, what other cheaper IP shit do we have lying around, like, Knight Rider, or Remington Steele or something? Quick, greenlight that shit! And then it will fail, too, and they'll be at a total loss. "We regret to inform you that HBO Max (et al.) is laying off everyone, because we can not think of anything original to do, let alone do for a reasonable price that does not involve relocating the production to Europe or New Zealand or spending millions and millions on server space to process all the CG." And they'll just end up stationing cameras around Los Angeles and calling it the world's biggest, most ambitious unscripted reality show.

Gilded Age was terrible and dull, which is fine, but it also made Christine Baranski boring, which is unforgivable

Agree Undone is fantastic, thought it was the best streaming-only thing since the first seasons of American Vandal and Russian Doll, except with a better second season than either

XP NBC actually did a Knight Rider reboot awhile back. KITT was a Mustang. It didn't last long.

but it also made Christine Baranski boring

I don't think I watched the same episodes as you.

American Vandal

Don't these guys have a new show?