i feel like i was paying pretty close attention but i love that the film didn't(?) explicitly explain how the gordy's home incident tied into the rest of the plot, if it does at all... it could just be an inexplicable event that shaped the rest of steven yeun's character's life or it could have some resonance with the thing hovering behind the clouds. i'm suggesting the latter purely because of the suspended shoe, which also could just be an impossible image that yeun gets obsessed with and which feeds into his obsession over controlling and displaying this impossible image for others in the sky. anyway it's good to not tie these things up sometimes, because when i was talking about the movie with my gf and her friend we had three totally different ideas of what happened and how the incident figured into the present day events of the film
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 25 July 2022 14:37 (three years ago)
I think it may have tied in because Jupe used the incident for publicity purposes when opening his theme park, and having that little Gordy's Home museum in the back of his office, which he jokes that he 'charges' people to tour. To me that suggests that he is exactly the narcissistic opportunist type, who has a "UFO experience" and instead of telling anybody, secretly decides to create a ticketed event one mere month later featuring said "UFO/alien" without properly vetting the danger he was putting himself, his family, and the audience in. and of course, it blew up in his face.
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 July 2022 15:09 (three years ago)
oh yes absolutely! there's def a persistent theme of people exploiting their own tragedies for attention and money
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 25 July 2022 15:19 (three years ago)
and ppl having to process something inexplicable and horrible and unprocessable that happened to them and thus doing it in all the wrong ways
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 25 July 2022 15:21 (three years ago)
I understand the criticisms of DK's performance, but I also think they're wrong. I wasn't too fond of either of the main characters initially -- OJ too reserved, Emerald too self-absorbed -- but that changed by the end of the movie. I'm glad Peele is on a level where the studio can't force reshoots to make his leads "more relatable" or w/e. (Obviously there is also a whole racialized element to this, which I feel unqualified to speak to.)
The whole audience cracked up at the interaction between OJ and Em when the documentary filmmaker showed up with his non-electrical camera. Later I realized it felt like a moment straight out of the Key & Peele valet sketches.
― Attached by piercing jewelry (bernard snowy), Monday, 25 July 2022 15:25 (three years ago)
as soon as Jupe mentioned the Gordy incident, I immediately knew exactly why there was someone in Jupe's audience with facial disfigurement in the trailer. and that they were going to show the incident in all of its horror (well-staged)
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 July 2022 15:26 (three years ago)
haha yeah i loved the appearance of his co-star
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Monday, 25 July 2022 15:27 (three years ago)
also loved the alien looking like a cowboy hat. kind of mad that the last set of trailers spoiled that a bit.
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Monday, 25 July 2022 15:30 (three years ago)
Saw this yesterday with my daughter and we loved it, though with a few reservations. One big way that Jupe's story ties in is that he didn't learn his lesson the first time that you can't tame or befriend a wild/predatory creature. Reaching out to knuckle bump your costars' apparent killer and feeding an alien horses, so much wtf Jupe! I haven't read every hidden text in this thread so sorry if I'm repeating the obvious.
― WmC, Monday, 25 July 2022 15:45 (three years ago)
Another random thought/connection:
When Parasite came out, I remember reading an interview, either with Bong or with his cinematographer, talking about how the whole set design process worked backwards from the director's hyper-specific vision for the film's final sequence (the father ascending the stairs out of the basement, into the sunny living room, with his son waiting there).
In my headcanon, I like to imagine a similar process played out as Peele set up that last shot of OJ framed by the gate, coming up out of the valley on horseback as the dust settles all around him. Like, How can you get a Black character into this iconic 1950s Western shot, and have the shot "make sense" in the context of the surrounding movie and carry the same affective weight that it would have in a classic Western, while telling an entirely original story in a contemporary setting?
― Attached by piercing jewelry (bernard snowy), Monday, 25 July 2022 15:58 (three years ago)
Someone on the internet said the shot looks like the Muybridge film, which I don't agree with, but since the movie is sort of about spectacle, I do wonder if the entrance to Jupiter's Claim has the aspect ratio of a film frame
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 15:45 (three years ago)
Also my idiotic fan theory is that all of Angel's band T-shirts have some narrative logic to them. Earth is mother nature, the Wipers is an apocalyptic event, Jesus Lizard is obviously the mix of the spiritual with the animal, being a Mr. Bungle got us into this mess and RATM will get us out
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 15:50 (three years ago)
huge return to form after us which sucked ass. last 30 mins were peak spielberg level, nearly brought a tear to my eye in awe of the spellbinding magic of cinema. not as great of a script as get out, but i'm v relieved peel's still "got it"
― flopson, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 16:15 (three years ago)
Us is great, foh
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 16:17 (three years ago)
other than tethered lupita (one of the craziest performances ever) i thoughtus was boring as hell and a clear sophomore slump
on the "good movie to write a thinkpiece about" v.s. "good movie to watch" spectrum, get out perfectly balances the two, us goes full thinkpiece, and nope leans more on the watchable end. the thinkpiece stuff in nope wasn't as flawlessly weaved into the narrative as in get out. i personally would've cut the whole steven yeun subplot (i couldn't follow the logic of keke palmer stealing his sign)
― flopson, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 16:29 (three years ago)
that is not a real spectrum!!!
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 16:31 (three years ago)
or if it is it's the most reductive one possible through which to view these films
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 16:32 (three years ago)
Discourse brain
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 16:40 (three years ago)
or if it is it's the most reductive one possible through which to view these films― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, July 26, 2022 12:32 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglinkDiscourse brain― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, July 26, 2022 12:40 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, July 26, 2022 12:32 PM (one minute ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, July 26, 2022 12:40 PM (fourteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i know it's painful when someone doesn't like a movie you like, but i don't think it's reductive or discourse brain. part of what's cool about peele's movies is how topical they are and how he packs them with metaphors and symbols that self-consciously gesture at Big Ideas. i'm surprised it's a controversial claim--it's like the signature trait that sets him apart from other current big name hollywood directors? imho he's able to pull it off better than almost anyone, tho us and candyman were misses that left me cold
the career arc key & peele -> get out -> us -> nope is such a great distillation of vibes from peak obama era to obama-trump interregnum to trump term 1 era to biden era
like to the extent get out feels dated, it's cause it's a movie from when rich white lady racism was the centre of the discourse, before the conservative populist white revanchist movement exploded onto the mainstream
― flopson, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 17:03 (three years ago)
The T-shirts, explained.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 19:29 (three years ago)
The explanation: "They're [the character's] band T-shirts"
― Whiney G. Weingarten, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 20:21 (three years ago)
i really liked this! palmer and kaluuya were great and the set piece at the end was extremely clever. i'd love to know what inspired peele to cast michael wincott.
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 13:47 (three years ago)
that voice, probably. everybody associates dust and cowboys with deep voiced people
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 27 July 2022 13:50 (three years ago)
"And it's Kattan, so he's CRUSHING it."
― Chris L, Sunday, 31 July 2022 16:46 (three years ago)
that bit was great because that is totally who would have played the chimp in that era of SNL
― We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Sunday, 31 July 2022 16:47 (three years ago)
Lots of chatter about the band t-shirts but the fact that there was an Exuma needle drop and they showed the cover in a big studio release is wild.
― Chris L, Sunday, 31 July 2022 17:21 (three years ago)
the documentary filmmaker showed up with his non-electrical camera.
Hooray for analog media! The classic vinyl, the film cameras, the old Haywood promo videotape showing the Muybridge short....
Like, How can you get a Black character into this iconic 1950s Western shot, and have the shot "make sense" in the context of the surrounding movie and carry the same affective weight that it would have in a classic Western, while telling an entirely original story in a contemporary setting?
It's definitely a detournement of the classic Western trope of the (white) hero in a white hat riding a white horse.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Sunday, 31 July 2022 22:21 (three years ago)
I've grown to appreciate how Peele sets up the opening credits where you go 'what am I looking at and what does it have to do with anything I've heard about this film so far' -- and this time around he did it twice. (And when I realized what the black box with the cast names in it it was, yikes.)
― Ned Raggett, Sunday, 31 July 2022 23:58 (three years ago)
Also, between the opening quote here and the one for Mad God, good few for deeply fucked up Bible quotes kicking off a movie.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 August 2022 00:00 (three years ago)
Few weeks, I should say.
https://www.tcm.com/tcmdb/title/4470/buck-and-the-preacher#overview
There was a prominently displayed poster for Buck and the Preacher (1972). Conveniently this will be shown on TCM on August 4, 2am (EST), as part of Sidney Poitier's Summer Under the Stars day. I know I want to check this out.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Monday, 1 August 2022 10:50 (three years ago)
I...quite liked this movie. Other than the OJ dad backstory, the lack of "humanizing" elements and tedious exposition felt right -- even about the UFO.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2022 18:08 (three years ago)
TMZ dude looked like a Daft Punker.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2022 18:11 (three years ago)
Worth a read: http://reverseshot.org/reviews/entry/2959/nope
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2022 18:23 (three years ago)
xp and sounded like Nicolas Cage! (I really want to believe this was an uncredited cameo)
― Sonned by a comedy podcast after a dairy network beef (bernard snowy), Monday, 1 August 2022 18:29 (three years ago)
If only, but it was this guy https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devon_Graye
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 August 2022 18:48 (three years ago)
We took the kids yesterday, we all enjoyed the heck out of it. My older son, who pays attention to this kind of thing, said that he liked "how many metaphors there were for filmmaking."
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Monday, 1 August 2022 19:02 (three years ago)
Your son OTM
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 1 August 2022 19:06 (three years ago)
Brandon Perea is my new crush.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 August 2022 19:06 (three years ago)
he reminds me of riz ahmed
― in places all over the world, real stuff be happening (voodoo chili), Monday, 1 August 2022 21:02 (three years ago)
Brilliant casting. Very much captured that kind of SoCal dude.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 1 August 2022 21:07 (three years ago)
I'm supposed to be cheering, I know. As I posted at the time, I thought Peele's first two films were audacious--even though they drifted into conventional horror-film stuff towards the end, the conception of each was great. "We're Americans"--I still think about that line, thought it was brilliant.
I liked the Gordy story here, and wished the whole film were about that. (Even though, beyond the Jupe connection, I either missed or am too lazy to figure out the deeper connection to the main story.) I thought the Muybridge stuff at the beginning was really promising--again, if there was follow-through, I missed it. Three of the four principals were pretty good. Couldn't stand the cameraman's Sam Elliot imitation.
Thought the last half-hour was an ordeal, and quite silly. It kind of reminded me of why I got tired of Stranger Things--I can only take so much of a rag-tag crew banding together to defeat the monster. (And the way Emerald actually did it--was that an Austin Powers tribute?) And dialogue like "Are we still rolling?" "You're goddamn right we are!" They really needed George Kennedy to deliver that line.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 03:03 (three years ago)
Now about them fashions
Talking with @roxana_hadadi, #NOPEMOVIE's costume designer explains each and every decision that was made to complement the film’s considerations of celebrity, spectacle, and storytelling https://t.co/dpWJXO2spG— Vulture (@vulture) August 1, 2022
― Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 03:07 (three years ago)
Walter Chaw had very mixed feelings.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 13:01 (three years ago)
Whatever my responses to his three films, I don't get how Peele has become "bunkered and solipsistic."
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 13:21 (three years ago)
the reverse shot piece that alfred linked was excellent
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 13:58 (three years ago)
first paragraph of that walter chaw piece is exhausting just watch a fuckin movie man
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 14:01 (three years ago)
Who is Walter Chaw, this shit sucks
― marcel the shell with swag on (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 14:56 (three years ago)
Not much to chaw on.
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 August 2022 15:00 (three years ago)
Thought all those questions in that first paragraph were perfectly valid. I stopped caring enough to have any questions at a certain point.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 August 2022 16:29 (three years ago)
if there was any horror or gore, it was largely campy, slapstick and fairly mild.
Well, there is that prolonged scene of them frozen in fear in the house while the creatures more or less barfs/shits blood and viscera all over. And the entire monkey sequence is pretty vicious, albeit off screen.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 August 2025 22:45 (ten months ago)
I’m of the opinion that a movie doesn’t need to be Terrifier-level gore to be scary
― my favorite herbs are fennel and Drake (DJP), Thursday, 7 August 2025 22:52 (ten months ago)
I've never seen those movies, but as I understand it, they're *all* gore, no scares. "Nope" has this air of real dread that most horror movies lack, tempered by some humor and adventure (a la "Jaws") but also enhanced by such a novel impossible to comprehend creature design (that also happens to reflect a single-lens reflex camera shutter).
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 August 2025 22:59 (ten months ago)
I should give it another go. Maybe i was expecting a different type of film or something. No, gore isn't intrinsically scary, and a film doesn't need gore to be scary. But I saw it with a friend who otherwise wouldn't ever dream of coming to see a horror with me and she left just as unswayed. As a sci-fi comedy drama, I don't think scary was what it was going for was it? so I'm surprised people were calling it genuinely scary upthread. i got no sense of dread or fear from this film... unless people are scared of toilet paper?
― Ray Cat Strut (dog latin), Thursday, 7 August 2025 23:10 (ten months ago)
I think it's more a fear of the genuine unknown, but there's also the degree of desperation (a different kind of fear) that convinces both camps to take their risks for personal gain (albeit in different ways). Anyway, you don't even see the monster in its full flourish until the end, so if you don't find anything unsettling before that, sure, the final reveal probably won't move the needle at all.
― Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 August 2025 23:27 (ten months ago)
idk there is a lot of dread in the buildup??? like the scene when the teens are fucking with them is terrifying, to me, someone who is not scared of horror movies
and then the monster when revealed turns out to be a biblically-accurate angel. i kind of don't understand finding that cool
― ivy., Friday, 8 August 2025 00:14 (ten months ago)
It honestly was my second favorite film of that year, flat out. The only thing better I saw was Everything Everywhere All At Once.
― Ned Raggett, Friday, 8 August 2025 03:51 (ten months ago)
wait what? biblically accurate angel? Not much of a biblical scholar, but I don't recall angels being some form of ravenous cloud monster with an insatiable appetite. Am I missing a reference or something?
― octobeard, Friday, 8 August 2025 06:23 (ten months ago)
I don't remember that bit either
― Ray Cat Strut (dog latin), Friday, 8 August 2025 07:40 (ten months ago)
https://nofilmschool.com/inspiration-nope-alien-design
― Evan, Friday, 8 August 2025 10:39 (ten months ago)
i was being silly
― ivy., Friday, 8 August 2025 10:39 (ten months ago)
xpost I know next to nothing about anime, but that was interesting. I haven't seen Akira in ages, but that video about the homages to the Akira motorcycle slide is up there with videos compiling the Wilhelm scream!
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 8 August 2025 12:13 (ten months ago)
One thing I love about horror is it's so personal and subjective. You either feel it or you don't. Arguing about whether a movie is scary or not is like arguing if something is funny, or somebody is sexy. If you don't; you don't. No need to keep going on and on about it.
― beard papa, Friday, 8 August 2025 18:58 (ten months ago)
Huh
https://variety.com/2025/film/news/jordan-peele-new-movie-removed-2026-release-date-1236505383/
― Clever Message Board User Name (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 3 September 2025 16:42 (nine months ago)
And so we wait.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 3 September 2025 17:15 (nine months ago)