like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

Worth putting some money on Sunak winning this contest, what is he, 24% behind in the latest poll?

this is the Tory membership we're talking about

Worth a punt though.

We're already dead.

I remember blue ticks on here scoffing at the old Chomsky line about govts knowingly neglecting public services to reconcile people to privatised alternatives. But that's what's happening in the NHS https://t.co/asQ3hus5jD pic.twitter.com/hjGaEptnMa

— Tom Blackburn (@malaiseforever) July 22, 2022

We're doomed pic.twitter.com/EzE8D05Zg3

— Billy Edwards (@biiilyedwards) July 21, 2022

Brilliant.

What passes for political journalism in this country man pic.twitter.com/0hj0QQhabD

— the gang reads Mike Davis (@lmartods) July 22, 2022

Toploader vs one can of coke on a Saturday night.

the anglo world is just full on ruled by morons now.. i mean i know politicians have always been a mixed bag but jfc

For those who care C4 is fucked.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/jul/22/rishi-sunak-vows-to-press-ahead-with-channel-4-privatisation

red meat. we’ll see. starmer also said a lot of things.

And here is Mick with the correct answers again. Call them hard right. Not even Corbyn went far enough in demonising his enemies.

.@ChrisMasonBBC to RMT's Mick Lynch...

"Who would you prefer? Prime Minister Sunak or Prime Minister Truss?"

Hear the full interview on #BBCNewscast https://t.co/jmF2u9tWYw pic.twitter.com/AhSbF9uxsI

— BBC Sounds (@BBCSounds) July 21, 2022

it shouldn't feel as radical as it does to hear the BSfest interrupted for a few fucking seconds

My God, Sunak is such and oily, smarmy little tit, Starmer must feel like Christmas has come early this year.

for a party who pride themselves on their preternatural ability to constantly win elections they've possibly snookered themselves here

"But the sneers and character attacks ignore one key thing. Truss connects to Middle England. Her aspirational style may overreach itself at times but she inspires voters, and her passion and vision for the United Kingdom are an asset that Starmer - with his carefully restrained, lawyerly rhetoric - simply does not possess. In an age of austerity the party that can appeal to the pride and optimism of the people who believe in a better life for themselves and their families will, however quietly, win the battle for hearts and minds."

Every newspaper, 2024

I can't think of anyone more ill suited to an election campaign than Truss. You could make the argument that May was terrible at it as well and 13 and half million people still voted for her. But she was just wooden, terrible at meeting the public and only slightly gaff prone. Truss is a whole different level of bad. You can sense her campaign team holding their breath every time she talks and isn't saying something incredibly stupid.

This is why I think Sunak is going to win the leadership campaign.

Noodle Vague's post just above is good and very accurate.

Though KS is a bad person and deserves to fail.

I genuinely cannot work out which would be the worst result. Reeves is just as much a danger as any Tory chancellor of the last decade and is going toe to toe on the tax cuts rhetoric with Truss.

Ultimately the Tories are likely to be more ideologically flexible than the likes of Reeves. If it gets close to an election they're worried about they have few qualms about throwing some token spending out there as a sop. Reeves seems far more a conviction neolib.

Ultimately the Tories are likely to be more ideologically flexible than the likes of Reeves. If it gets close to an election they're worried about they have few qualms about throwing some token spending out there as a sop. Reeves seems far more a conviction neolib.

Ultimately the Tories are likely to be more ideologically flexible than the likes of Reeves. If it gets close to an election they're worried about they have few qualms about throwing some token spending out there as a sop. Reeves seems far more a conviction neolib.

Lol so good I posted thrice. Sorry, pub wifi

lol I was just thinking it's either for rhetorical emphasis or he's spilt some lager on his phone.

yeah Reeves is a more uncompromising politician than a lot of the current government. She's never wavered on her position that ppl on benefits deserve to die, even during the Corbyn years.

In terms of demeanour, the person Truss reminds me of is Ed Miliband - awkward, adenoidal, oddly adolescent. She will start out with more of the press on her side, so maybe these qualities will be successfully presented as endearing rather than disqualifyingly weird? (also won't have the 'ethnic' thing that seemed to be lurking consciously or subconsciously behind a lot of the stuff about how 'strange' Ed M was)

Other big difference is that a lot of the conversation about Ed's persona and manner centred on how people couldn't 'see' him as PM, whereas Truss will start out as PM so maybe this won't be as big a problem for her?

Ultimately whether the media decides to portray you as likeable or not is 95 percent political interests, reality doesn't much come into it.

Kieth is never gonna be charismatic tho, and that will be used as a weapon against him

Having said that if Johnson was on the leadership ballot he'd probably walk it, so sometimes the professional sensibles are just plain out of step

i always warmed to ed's personal affect -- tho the actual moment this crystallised was in the single brief scene in miliband of brothers i happened to see while channel-surfing, when the kid playing young ed bounced into a serious conflab between dad and dave and said "i'm a cyberpunk!"

looking back this tells me that there's an aspect of pop-cult absurdism that i am drawn to, which is very bad and i should distrust it more

It's not the absurdism, it's the old nothing so radical that it can't be detourned by capital thing

I'm glad I have no memory of ever watching this because it was written by the dreaded Quantick. I cringe when thinking that there might be bits of his writing I have unawaredly found amusing in Brasseye!

much too much of the last seven years for me has been unhappily wandering what that i once admired has its tentacles in me too deep not to be distorting me

lol i compiled and edited a whole loving book abt a phenom which is now generally (and justifiably!) dismissed in a phase as the "biggest melt factory"

Quantick and Swells still one of my favourite double acts, centrism makes fools of us all

Well, not us all, just melts

Who are the major exceptions to the rockcrit-to-melt pipeline, present company excluded

Those that do not melt, are doomed to ILX

Ultimately the Tories are likely to be more ideologically flexible than the likes of Reeves. If it gets close to an election they're worried about they have few qualms about throwing some token spending out there as a sop. Reeves seems far more a conviction neolib.

― seo layer (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 23 July 2022 bookmarkflaglink

I think inflation, heating bills, the collapse of the NHS/the nation will sweep a lot of the neolib policy aside by the next election.

Truss is a whole different level of bad. You can sense her campaign team holding their breath every time she talks and isn't saying something incredibly stupid.

― calzino, Saturday, 23 July 2022 bookmarkflaglink

This is why I think Sunak is going to win the leadership campaign.

― Tom D: panel beater, bouncer and tree surgeon (Tom D.), Saturday, 23 July 2022 bookmarkflaglink

The Tory membership that elected Howard and IDS will suddenly elect someone seemingly more competent on the surface?

Also let's not forget that most of the Tory membership are unendingly racist, immediately giving the Truss a leg-up in a head-to-head with someone of Asian heritage.

I could see Truss dropping out if there are too many 'incidents' in the next month.

The escalating poverty crisis might do for the Tories alph I agree but they won't be facing an election confronting a credible alternative so

But yes, I think the membership being 'funny' on race is probably playing a part as well. That, and Sunak's resignation being the catalyst for the downfall of Johnson (whom the members surely still like).

xp - I mean, I don't know if neolib policies will be on the cards just because things could get so bad. Covid was the disaster for the Tories in this parliament, they had to do furlough.

“Membership of Conservatives Abroad is open to all who live abroad and pledge support for the UK Conservative Party. You do not have to be a voter or a UK citizen.”

interesting voting criteria for overseas members, as long as they pledge support for the party seems all that is required. You need to be a citizen of Britain, Ireland, the Isle of Man or the Channel Islands to vote in Labour leadership elections.

It was all those Russia entryists that voted for Crombpre twice

The lies and copium and oblivious class hate tells you everything about Labour 2022

I'm not saying exterminate the brutes but I'm not not saying it

Putin with his thousands of bogus Conservative Overseas members ballots at his disposal is still uncertain, he just can't decide which joke candidate will cause the most economic ruin to the UK.

I could see Truss dropping out if there are too many 'incidents' in the next month.

― xyzzzz__

There's an amazing interjection by David Frost today to the effect that if one of the two does drop out Penny Mordaunt should be brought in as a sub.

Bring back Boris obviously.

xp: think you'd get Sunak. May was made leader once Leadsom dropped out.

Johnson ramping up the army cosplay partly because it's harder to picture Sunak and Truss doing any of that shit

truss has been known to drive tanks