like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

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think it depends how many mps are voting for their real favourite and how many are voting tactically to keep Liz (who even in this awful field is an embarrassing liability and a fucking idiot) out of the top two. the "sensible" wing is probably depleted enough by now that it may be a close thing.

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:20 (three years ago)

Plus all the stuff about her being lazy and ambitious, something that you can rarely accuse a Tory PM of being, eh?

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:21 (three years ago)

Liz Truss as PM will be like a straight to DVD British comedy from the early 2000s, only less funny.

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:22 (three years ago)

More The Wright Way than The West Wing.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:24 (three years ago)

isn't there an epic series of posts somewhere on ilx about the wright way or have i imagined that?

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:29 (three years ago)

I thought there might be enough MPs who hate Sunak and know that Truss is not playing with a full deck for Mordaunt to make it onto the ballot, but who knows.

calzino, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:33 (three years ago)

She's been treading water, all the trans/woke stuff being used against her has worked.

― Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 bookmarkflaglink

Her campaign wasn't as slick as Sunak's, she tried throwing trans ppl under the bus to little effect. Also the curse of the front runner to it. We'll see.

If Sunak wins, we'll get the Britannia Unchained stuff for the next 18 months and if that fails at the ballot this weird libertarian wing (?) of Badenoch's might take over. Her rise is the main lesson from the contest.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:37 (three years ago)

How many of the Sunak supporters dislike Truss enough to lend Mordaunt their support for the next round?

Alba, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:43 (three years ago)

Polling is showing Sunak would lose against Morduant. He would be favourite against Truss?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:45 (three years ago)

He’d have a better chance

Today's YouGov poll of Conservative Party members has Liz Truss defeating Rishi Sunak in the final round by a large margin. pic.twitter.com/5y1vaq94sl

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) July 19, 2022

Alba, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:46 (three years ago)

But would be more about them settling for Mordaunt as PM rather than hand it to Truss

Alba, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:48 (three years ago)

Will the next government most likely be Conservative, so Sunak?

youn, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 15:19 (three years ago)

Won't be an election until 2024 at the earliest, so next govt will definitely be conservative

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 15:27 (three years ago)

The Tory government can just carry on with a new leader elected by its members. It won’t necessarily be Sunak despite him leading at this stage as the final two candidates are voted on by thousands of ordinary party members rather than the Tory MPs.

Xpost

Alba, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 15:30 (three years ago)

whoever wins the next general election the government will definitely be conservative

pasty drunks fuck off (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 15:53 (three years ago)

isn't there an epic series of posts somewhere on ilx about the wright way or have i imagined that?

In here somewhere:

Ben Elton - where did it all go wrong?

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 15:54 (three years ago)

London Fire Brigade has declared a 'major incident' as crews tackle multiple fires across Greater London due to the extreme temperatures.

— LBC News (@LBCNews) July 19, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 16:00 (three years ago)

Some of us remember the fire of 1666, now that was a real fire! https://t.co/K0sdo9tZdO

— dan (@BierIncognito) July 19, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 16:19 (three years ago)

Lol

Final confirmation of what many of us knew. Presumably Corbyn gets his apology and the Whip back at the very least. But no more money from me until the Augean stables are cleaned. https://t.co/U0F9kbT3aA

— Mark Seddon (@MarkSeddon1962) July 19, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 17:22 (three years ago)

Starmer has been gently shifting the issue re whipless Corbyn from AS to NATO criticism over time. No doubt a couple of other excuses also.

nashwan, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 17:33 (three years ago)

He might be a bit quiet about AS for the next few weeks

xp
Paul Waugh posting like this isn't even in the report and suggesting it debunks that "conspiracy theory" of staff working against Corbyn. I guess that is one way of dealing with it.

calzino, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 17:42 (three years ago)

Lol shows what i know re bad enoch, though i think Truss was helped by the votes coming so quickly- if hhere'd been a few days to wait i think it might well have happened as i sketched out.

So although i was wrong, i was, in a very real sense, right.

Led By Honkies (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 17:46 (three years ago)

Dry your eyes mate. https://t.co/UL7yswplRh

— The CWU (@CWUnews) July 19, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 08:08 (three years ago)

so looks like sunak supporters are tactically voting for truss because they think he can beat her more easily than morduant, but truss is now polling better than sunak among the membership, so we are actually likely to end up with truss as PM now? I mean, it's almost funny, from an accelerationist pov it kind of seems like the way the narrative is going anyway.

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 08:20 (three years ago)

It would be funny if they all did that, and it ended up being Morduant vs Truss

(Wasn't saying "Truss" Spike Milligan's favourite joke, on "Blankety Blank"?)

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 08:29 (three years ago)

Stoked to be governed by a prime minister who would likely be capability managed out of any job any of us have ever done within four weeks

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 08:49 (three years ago)

to be fair the man she's replacing is not significantly more competent

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 09:01 (three years ago)

She might make Boris seem competent though.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 09:53 (three years ago)

Everything is possible.

'Wouldn't it be amazing if we had a project to write the new UK theme song?'

🗣️ Penny Mordaunt on how to bring the Union together

Watch the full interview 👉 https://t.co/FyArtgeQco pic.twitter.com/jYisWSMMoW

— The Spectator (@spectator) July 20, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 10:53 (three years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FVpwtD4uQtM

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 11:03 (three years ago)

"No one likes us, we don't care 😂🇬🇧"

Left, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 11:43 (three years ago)

xp god that's shit. we really do have the worst tunes

Left, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 11:44 (three years ago)

The Forde report does vindicate claims that Corbyn's leadership was being sabotaged by the Labour right and one reason this isn't getting more traction is that many media commentators just don't see a problem with that

— rachel shabi (@rachshabi) July 20, 2022

this seems right, I don't think it's even a conscious thing for a lot of these commentators, for them the Corbyn leadership was fundamentally, inherently illegitimate, so attempts to undermine it were legitimate, they're not just being disingenuous, they genuinely find it hard to understand why people would have a problem with it.

soref, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 11:46 (three years ago)

yeah. where that leaves anybody who wants meaningful change in our politics or media, i dunno. good luck with it.

pasty drunks fuck off (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 11:54 (three years ago)

boris u are a LEGERND always In are Hearts never forget

Boris Johnson leaves the Commons saying “hasta la vista, baby.”

Then receives applause only from his own side.

Viewers may recall the very side which removed the Prime Minister only a week or so ago, many of whom writing letters in the strongest possible terms against him. pic.twitter.com/AIYJVQQqOj

— Lewis Goodall (@lewis_goodall) July 20, 2022

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 12:01 (three years ago)

"a great pointless human bollard" is a marked improvement on captain crasheroonie or whatever shit that was last week and also it's almost an objectively correct description of Starmer.

calzino, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 12:10 (three years ago)

I think Penny Mordaunt should be the Tory candidate that Labour should fear the most as she has the unifying quality of being objectively hot.

— Scheiße Minelli (@misslucyp) July 20, 2022

calzino, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 12:15 (three years ago)

Johnson's legacy here: https://www.theguardian.com/artanddesign/2022/jul/20/empty-promise-the-fantasy-city-within-a-city-that-turned-into-a-ghost-town

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 12:23 (three years ago)

Johnson's sign off: Hasta la vista baby.

The catchphrase used by Schwarzenegger in Terminator 2: Judgement Day. For so long Johnson was the Terminator PM, nothing could bring him down or stop him. Until the herd, finally, stampeded.

— Beth Rigby (@BethRigby) July 20, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 12:38 (three years ago)

yes, the stampeding herd stopped The Terminator, that's right

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 12:44 (three years ago)

that's from Terminator v Lion King: Hasta la Simba

pasty drunks fuck off (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 12:56 (three years ago)

vg+

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 13:33 (three years ago)

nm

Chewshabadoo, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 13:44 (three years ago)

Mordaunt 105
Truss 113
Sunak 137

nashwan, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 15:03 (three years ago)

Rishi Sunak - 137 votes (+19)
Liz Truss - 113 votes (+27)

...............................
Penny Mordaunt - 105 votes (+13)

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 15:05 (three years ago)

On with the Motley...

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 15:06 (three years ago)

The [undisclosed] MP suggested "nasty personal attacks" in the media had cut through and predicted a Rishi Sunak vs Liz Truss contest would damage both candidates and the Conservative Party.

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 15:08 (three years ago)

Looking forward to Truss blundering about uncertainly as PM for a short while before losing a snap election to the Melt Pact

~insert pun here~ (Matt #2), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 15:09 (three years ago)

So, it's not all over for Nadine Dorries then?

Mark G, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 15:10 (three years ago)

Don't want to say I told you so but...

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 15:10 (three years ago)


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