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just discovered that Oasis also substantially ransacked the same poem for "Go Let it Out"!

Doctor Casino, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 11:47 (three years ago)

Was just coming here to post the Julian Glover/Robert Wyatt one.

Long enough attention span for a Stephen Bissette blu-ray extra (aldo), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 08:40 (three years ago)

He's also related to Woodrow Wyatt, but I guess that's more widely known

fetter, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 10:21 (three years ago)

I knew about Julian Glover but didn't know about Woodrow Wyatt but then he's probably been keeping that one quiet.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Wednesday, 20 July 2022 12:10 (three years ago)

"The actor Julian Glover is Robert Wyatt's half-brother."

This comes from a lovely interview in The Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/film/2022/jul/19/julian-glover-empire-strikes-back-bond-indiana-jones-game-of-thrones-russell-crowe-prizefighter

I would have asked him (a) does he resent Charles Dance? (b) would he have been materially better-off if Charles Dance had met with a horrible accident in the early 1970s? (c) has he ever considered gifting Charles Dance a Porsche 911 with faulty brakes? (d) how does he feel when Charles Dance is cast in a role that could have gone to Julian Glover instead? (e) has he ever considered releasing a novelty hip-hop record under the name Julian G Lover?

Which is probably why The Guardian continues to refuse to hire me to interview people.

Along similar lines to button-down shirt, it took me a long time to comprehend that a fine-toothed comb was a fine-toothed comb, and not a "fine toothcomb".

Ashley Pomeroy, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 19:09 (three years ago)

James Cleveland (JC) Owens the famous mid 30s runner was better known by a local pronunciation of his initials.
Just came across that in Adam Rutherford's How To Argue With A Racist, not sure if I'd heard it earlier.

Stevolende, Thursday, 21 July 2022 07:41 (three years ago)

I like "my brother, Robert Wyatt, who’s a modern pop musician. Or he was, before he broke his back."
(x-post)

fetter, Thursday, 21 July 2022 09:54 (three years ago)

when you think youve reached rock bottom

mark s, Thursday, 21 July 2022 10:11 (three years ago)

It's just a rumour that they spread around town.

Meme for an Imaginary Western (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 21 July 2022 13:23 (three years ago)

the title of rush's 1980 album "permanent waves" is derived from the formal title of the hairstyle more commonly known as the "perm".

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 July 2022 13:54 (three years ago)

It's also a play on "New Wave" music, of course.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:15 (three years ago)

They did like an album cover pun, those lads

~insert pun here~ (Matt #2), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:15 (three years ago)

i just was driving around and saw someone with an actual perm yesterday and something clicked in my head

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:17 (three years ago)

In 1982, Lee told Rolling Stone Magazine that the album's title referred to "a theory that was going [within the band] about, like, culture waves; and there was a night when Neil said that a big album was like a permanent wave and I told him, 'that's our title.'"

But also a pun on the hairstyle, to be sure.

peace, man, Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:19 (three years ago)

Probably a more resonant pun than "Moving Pictures".

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:20 (three years ago)

The Kinks beat them to it, there's a song called "Permanent Waves" on the "Misfits" album, admittedly it is partly about the hairstyle too.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:21 (three years ago)

the title of rush's 1980 album "permanent waves" is derived from the formal title of the hairstyle more commonly known as the "perm".

It's also a play on "New Wave" music, of course.

Holy shit, neither of these things ever occurred to me! (I just had a "Rubber Soul" moment.) Rush are kings of the dad-joke album title pun.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:22 (three years ago)

The Kinks also have a song called "Moving Pictures"!?! Conspiracy?

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:22 (three years ago)

Wow, so they have!

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:26 (three years ago)

the original title for "Lola" was "2112"

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 21 July 2022 14:38 (three years ago)

20th Century Working Man

pplains, Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:02 (three years ago)

Ayn Rand And All Of The Night

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:04 (three years ago)

^^ Just spit milk of paradise all over my keyboard.

pplains, Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:07 (three years ago)

in the year 2112 people aren't catty bitches at you just for being trans

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:24 (three years ago)

yeah but see what happens when you try to play a guitar

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:29 (three years ago)

well yeah we're all into synthesizers. i know that's not rush's thing, rush would never sell out and start using synthesizers.

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:42 (three years ago)

infamous anti-synthesizer band

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 21 July 2022 16:44 (three years ago)

The priests of the Temple of Syrinx were notorious anti-rockists, look at all their computers.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 21 July 2022 17:11 (three years ago)

In her early twenties, Oprah Winfrey was a news anchor at Nashville's WLAC-TV, where she would frequently cover the same stories as John Tesh, news anchor across town at WSM-TV.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 22 July 2022 10:53 (three years ago)

'Got My Mind Set on You' is a cover of a 1962 song by James Ray. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k68Fob0QA_k

Dan Worsley, Friday, 22 July 2022 12:15 (three years ago)

OK, so that explains how George Harrison was able to come up with a good, catchy song in 1987.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Friday, 22 July 2022 12:18 (three years ago)

He had a different method for doing the somersaults in the video

Mark G, Friday, 22 July 2022 12:24 (three years ago)

The whole story behind that cover is pretty crazy.

https://www.stereogum.com/2143088/the-number-ones-george-harrisons-got-my-mind-set-on-you/columns/the-number-ones/

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 22 July 2022 12:38 (three years ago)

I only learned that Got My Mind Set On You was a cover sometime this year! The video was a big favorite of mine back in the Nick Rocks years, especially the squirrel playing the pipe like a saxophone. That was a big hit with all the third graders. Never made the Evil Dead connection either, but watching it now, it's very obvious.

peace, man, Friday, 22 July 2022 14:03 (three years ago)

Ronnie Wood covered another James Ray song on I've Got My Own Album To Do.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 22 July 2022 14:08 (three years ago)

dr. demento played the og "got my mind set on you" on his show when the cover became a hit for george, so i learned this fact back then. i wish i still had the tapes i recorded off the radio. fortunately the demento archives are so thorough, you could basically recreate any episode from that era, although some tunes don't appear to be online.

andrew m., Friday, 22 July 2022 14:11 (three years ago)

From the Stereogum piece:

While he was in Benton, Harrison sat in with a local band at a VFW Hall, took in a drive-in double feature, and bought the Rickenbacker that he’d play on Ed Sullivan five months later.

Except he played his usual Gretsch on Ed Sullivan, which doesn't resemble in any way the Rickenbacker 425 he bought in Benton:

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-S78yWZ1Eqnk/U2zjx_HaIeI/AAAAAAAAMM4/7so-8OinO5k/s1600/eskilstuna.jpg

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 22 July 2022 15:31 (three years ago)

Prior to visiting his sister in Benton, George and his brother stayed in NYC for a day or so and took in the Empire State Building:

https://external-preview.redd.it/4HYji8sGaUG7VVpzwA_QFHF1Bbkjp1EQrQgtFhzEoBY.jpg

No one in the US knew or cared who he was, and he was the only Beatle to have had that fame-free experience in America.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 22 July 2022 15:34 (three years ago)

d'oh

https://external-preview.redd.it/4HYji8sGaUG7VVpzwA_QFHF1Bbkjp1EQrQgtFhzEoBY.jpg?auto=webp&s=2433a3e183cf29eac5c6ef173a210960319d3011

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 22 July 2022 15:34 (three years ago)

“Handle With Care” only went to #45? I feel like it was everywhere! I even bought the album when it came out!

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Friday, 22 July 2022 15:47 (three years ago)

my brain shorthandedly knows gmmsoy as a travelling wilburys hit, i erased that harrison even had a late 80s album

Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Friday, 22 July 2022 15:55 (three years ago)

Xpost it got to #2 on the Album Rock Tracks chart (now Mainstream Rock), so your memory's not wrong, it was getting plenty of airplay. Maybe VH1 was involved also.

Doctor Casino, Friday, 22 July 2022 16:41 (three years ago)

I have given way too much thought to the Weird Al parody. "This song is just six words long" is seven words.

"I got my mind set on you" is also seven words long.

Granted, "got my mind set on you" is six words. But they never appear without "I."

Hence Al released his version with "Song's" in the title, even though he very definitely sings "song is."

Also Al's lyric that goes "couldn't think of any lyrics, no I never wrote the lyrics," suggesting that either Al either didn't know it was a cover or pretended not to, because otherwise his parody wouldn't make sense.

Also Harrison wrote lots of lyrics. Which Al no doubt knew. So the whole thing is just off.

your marshmallows may vary (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 22 July 2022 18:34 (three years ago)

No one in the US knew or cared who he was, and he was the only Beatle to have had that fame-free experience in America.

strange that he was wearing his work clothes at the time

Ronnie Wood covered another James Ray song on I've Got My Own Album To Do.

I've Got My Own Mind To Set On You

fetter, Friday, 22 July 2022 18:41 (three years ago)

strange that he was wearing his work clothes at the time

I bet this started some arguments a few months later when they were on Ed Sullivan. “Hey, I’ve seen him! We saw that guy a few months ago!” “SURE you did.” “No, really! He was at the Empire State Building, and I said, ‘Look at how long that guy’s hair is!’” “Yeah, right! And I saw Dean Martin at the supermarket the other day! Ha ha ha!”

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Friday, 22 July 2022 19:01 (three years ago)

in the Weird Al parody, I don't think he's parodying George Harrison so much as portraying a hack musician who threw together a song in five minutes.

He definitely sings "song is", because I think I protested this very thing with my dad and he gave the cheat answer of "well I guess it's 'Song's'.

My big protest is that the other lyrics where he bitches about having wrote no lyrics are actually lyrics and therefore the song has way more than six words, just because they're meta doesn't mean they don't count.

Fuck you Al, your mother is an astronaut.

We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 July 2022 19:02 (three years ago)

Also Al's lyric that goes "couldn't think of any lyrics, no I never wrote the lyrics," suggesting that either Al either didn't know it was a cover or pretended not to, because otherwise his parody wouldn't make sense.


Why does Weird Al have to be talking about Harrison here?

“Couldn’t think of any lyrics” is also self-contradictory, because of course those are lyrics too. I’ve always just kind of assumed the whole parody is intended to generate cognitive dissonance and fold in on itself.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 22 July 2022 19:02 (three years ago)

lol xpost basically these are all reasons why it’s great.

Tracer Hand, Friday, 22 July 2022 19:03 (three years ago)

it was my favorite song on the album as a kid. me and my friends in dad's truck on the way back from Bible School would sing it (and I knew the George Harrison version too cos my dad was a Beatles fellater)

We were clothed, except for Caan, who was naked. Don't know why. (Neanderthal), Friday, 22 July 2022 19:10 (three years ago)

Tracer gets it, the Weird Al song is pure genius

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 22 July 2022 19:25 (three years ago)


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