like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

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one of the debaters will be the next PM so it's pretty solidly in the public interest but it's true you run the risk of essentially staging a party political broadcast for free

Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 July 2022 11:44 (three years ago)

It's been a total PR disaster for the Tory Party tbf.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Monday, 18 July 2022 11:49 (three years ago)

a good week for the leader of the opposition to play it cool, not attract any controversy and

pasty drunks fuck off (Noodle Vague), Monday, 18 July 2022 11:50 (three years ago)

Not sure if the contest to be PM is in the public interest, as we vote on the party of government.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 July 2022 12:09 (three years ago)

even if PMs were chosen directly by the house of lords it would still be in the public interest to see the contenders debate the issues of the day!

Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 July 2022 12:20 (three years ago)

Let's build more airports.

pic.twitter.com/kn2ClMlZHK

— London Luton Airport (@LDNLutonAirport) July 18, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 July 2022 15:40 (three years ago)

xp: except I don't see how they are debating issues of the day when they actually have to appeal to 100k people with a particular take on what's needed.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 18 July 2022 15:42 (three years ago)

Corbyn: Why are 14 million people in this country living in poverty?
Johnson says he does not accept Corbyn’s case. He says 14 million people voted for his government.

nashwan, Monday, 18 July 2022 17:02 (three years ago)

i see the tugmentum has once again dribbled to a premature conclusion

better luck next time big man

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Monday, 18 July 2022 20:35 (three years ago)

Rishi Sunak - 115 votes (+14)
Penny Mordaunt - 82 votes (-1)
Liz Truss - 71 votes (+7)
Kemi Badenoch - 58 votes (+9)

.............................
Tom Tugendhat - 30 votes (-2)

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2022 20:37 (three years ago)

Oops, Tom the hat got 31, making -1 this time.

Mark G, Monday, 18 July 2022 20:38 (three years ago)

Huh, I'd tip Bad Enoch from here. Truss han't nailed down the ultra nutbar vote and got into the top two after several ballots and is an obvious liability- think her support might start to bail in favour of the up and comer. And the most culture war brainwormed and not-Sunak candidate will be hot favourite in the members vote

Led By Honkies (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 18 July 2022 21:34 (three years ago)

What a saga

https://i.imgur.com/gmTGtsK.png
https://i.imgur.com/gMaJM46.png

Alba, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 10:49 (three years ago)

edith its spelled delet smdh

mark s, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 11:04 (three years ago)

I just searched that on Google Images so you don't have to, nothing to see other than photos of him guffawing like a cunt thankfully

~insert pun here~ (Matt #2), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 11:12 (three years ago)

the farage plane crash pics are hot in a jg ballard way imo

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 11:23 (three years ago)

Huh, I'd tip Bad Enoch from here. Truss han't nailed down the ultra nutbar vote and got into the top two after several ballots and is an obvious liability- think her support might start to bail in favour of the up and comer. And the most culture war brainwormed and not-Sunak candidate will be hot favourite in the members vote

― Led By Honkies (Bananaman Begins), Monday, 18 July 2022 bookmarkflaglink

Two u-turns on net zero in 24 hours. If we don't make Kemi PM I'll be massively disappointed.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 12:25 (three years ago)

time to be massively disappointed

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:05 (three years ago)

Bad Enoch out, punchable AF.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:07 (three years ago)

Rishi Sunak - 118 votes (+3)
Penny Mordaunt - 92 votes (+10)
Liz Truss - 86 votes (+15)

.................................
Kemi Badenoch - 59 votes (+1)

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:08 (three years ago)

I am! Though I think her response to these crises is the future for the Tories.

Can see much of Badenoch's votes going to Truss now xxp

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:10 (three years ago)

Badenoch's the scariest because she actually believes in what she says

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:10 (three years ago)

But she will be brought low by scandal eventually; do we really need another Candace Owens with a rich husband? One was too much.

put a VONC on it (suzy), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:12 (three years ago)

So, that's sixty votes, thereabouts, to split between Penny and Liz, discounting all the "ah, might as well vote Rishi then"...

I reckon that's it for Liz.

Mark G, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:12 (three years ago)

I reckon that's it for Penny.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:14 (three years ago)

Yeah she hasn't gained much.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:16 (three years ago)

She's been treading water, all the trans/woke stuff being used against her has worked.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:19 (three years ago)

think it depends how many mps are voting for their real favourite and how many are voting tactically to keep Liz (who even in this awful field is an embarrassing liability and a fucking idiot) out of the top two. the "sensible" wing is probably depleted enough by now that it may be a close thing.

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:20 (three years ago)

Plus all the stuff about her being lazy and ambitious, something that you can rarely accuse a Tory PM of being, eh?

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:21 (three years ago)

Liz Truss as PM will be like a straight to DVD British comedy from the early 2000s, only less funny.

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:22 (three years ago)

More The Wright Way than The West Wing.

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:24 (three years ago)

isn't there an epic series of posts somewhere on ilx about the wright way or have i imagined that?

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:29 (three years ago)

I thought there might be enough MPs who hate Sunak and know that Truss is not playing with a full deck for Mordaunt to make it onto the ballot, but who knows.

calzino, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:33 (three years ago)

She's been treading water, all the trans/woke stuff being used against her has worked.

― Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 bookmarkflaglink

Her campaign wasn't as slick as Sunak's, she tried throwing trans ppl under the bus to little effect. Also the curse of the front runner to it. We'll see.

If Sunak wins, we'll get the Britannia Unchained stuff for the next 18 months and if that fails at the ballot this weird libertarian wing (?) of Badenoch's might take over. Her rise is the main lesson from the contest.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:37 (three years ago)

How many of the Sunak supporters dislike Truss enough to lend Mordaunt their support for the next round?

Alba, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:43 (three years ago)

Polling is showing Sunak would lose against Morduant. He would be favourite against Truss?

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:45 (three years ago)

He’d have a better chance

Today's YouGov poll of Conservative Party members has Liz Truss defeating Rishi Sunak in the final round by a large margin. pic.twitter.com/5y1vaq94sl

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) July 19, 2022

Alba, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:46 (three years ago)

But would be more about them settling for Mordaunt as PM rather than hand it to Truss

Alba, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 14:48 (three years ago)

Will the next government most likely be Conservative, so Sunak?

youn, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 15:19 (three years ago)

Won't be an election until 2024 at the earliest, so next govt will definitely be conservative

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 15:27 (three years ago)

The Tory government can just carry on with a new leader elected by its members. It won’t necessarily be Sunak despite him leading at this stage as the final two candidates are voted on by thousands of ordinary party members rather than the Tory MPs.

Xpost

Alba, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 15:30 (three years ago)

whoever wins the next general election the government will definitely be conservative

pasty drunks fuck off (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 15:53 (three years ago)

isn't there an epic series of posts somewhere on ilx about the wright way or have i imagined that?

In here somewhere:

Ben Elton - where did it all go wrong?

Tom D: I was in the army (Tom D.), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 15:54 (three years ago)

London Fire Brigade has declared a 'major incident' as crews tackle multiple fires across Greater London due to the extreme temperatures.

— LBC News (@LBCNews) July 19, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 16:00 (three years ago)

Some of us remember the fire of 1666, now that was a real fire! https://t.co/K0sdo9tZdO

— dan (@BierIncognito) July 19, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 16:19 (three years ago)

Lol

Final confirmation of what many of us knew. Presumably Corbyn gets his apology and the Whip back at the very least. But no more money from me until the Augean stables are cleaned. https://t.co/U0F9kbT3aA

— Mark Seddon (@MarkSeddon1962) July 19, 2022

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 17:22 (three years ago)

Starmer has been gently shifting the issue re whipless Corbyn from AS to NATO criticism over time. No doubt a couple of other excuses also.

nashwan, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 17:33 (three years ago)

He might be a bit quiet about AS for the next few weeks

xp
Paul Waugh posting like this isn't even in the report and suggesting it debunks that "conspiracy theory" of staff working against Corbyn. I guess that is one way of dealing with it.

calzino, Tuesday, 19 July 2022 17:42 (three years ago)

Lol shows what i know re bad enoch, though i think Truss was helped by the votes coming so quickly- if hhere'd been a few days to wait i think it might well have happened as i sketched out.

So although i was wrong, i was, in a very real sense, right.

Led By Honkies (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 19 July 2022 17:46 (three years ago)

Dry your eyes mate. https://t.co/UL7yswplRh

— The CWU (@CWUnews) July 19, 2022

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 20 July 2022 08:08 (three years ago)


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