the animation throughout the rebuilds is beautiful especially the cgi
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 July 2022 15:33 (one year ago) link
ppl bring a lot of baggage to like the whole concept of animation-with-integrated-cg, so even when they're seeing something clearly intended to be unreally/surreally gorgeous and overwhelming they feel like they're being cheated? idk that's my only explanation for it
― flamenco drop (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 July 2022 15:37 (one year ago) link
yeah i think it's just baggage people bring over from tv anime where cg is more often used as a compromise than as a choice, due to tight deadlines and a shortage of 2d animators. if it's being used in a high profile film with a 7 year gestation then there's probably more intentionality to it
― ciderpress, Thursday, 14 July 2022 16:11 (one year ago) link
totally. and i mean, my standard here is the original TV series. which cut costs in various ways, but clearly threw a lot of budget into backgrounds, several seconds of incredible animated action per episode, and incredible design work all throughout. (and then well, episodes 25-26...). it's a great looking show overall. and this mostly looks better than that.
the most striking departure really from the original series is the pacing. there's very little in the way of a classic 'evangelion feel' to the way scenes play out or the way transitions between scenes happen. not a lot of long shots of power lines with crickets chirping. conversations are often choppy, just two or three lines back and forth, then jumping back over to somebody else. this contributes to an even greater feeling of unreality for me... this thing where people just act really strange and nobody asks any logical followup questions, which i found really distracting in the first couple Rebuilds but had come to accept by the third. i guess it's all signs of people being afraid to get closer to each other. (is the "hedgehog's dilemma" mentioned by name in this series?)
when applied to lore and world-building, this same approach leads to just a profusion of empty signifiers and unexplained nonsense, which i embraced as silliness and then decided was thematically intentional by the end. making new spears from the black moon to access the imaginary evangelion inside the anti-universe... ahhh sure whatever, i'm on board
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link
BUT i do think this approach hurts 3.0's exploration of Shinji's burden/guilt. i don't even really understand what happened at the end of 2, Shinji sure doesn't, so everybody blaming him for it really seems harsh, and him punishing himself just didn't land for me. they could at least walk him through a powerpoint about it or something. misato finally admits near the end of 3.0+1.0 that, now that she thinks about it, he was a 14-year-old kid doing what she and everyone else was encouraging him to do. would have been nice to fill in the gaps of this thread a little more, for me personally.
― Doctor Casino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 17:09 (one year ago) link
It's kinda crazy that the Soyokaze fansubs site is still up - http://www.soyokazefans.com/
Looks like it hasn't been updated in 20 years.
― MaresNest, Saturday, 30 July 2022 18:22 (one year ago) link
that rules. beautiful glimpse into a whole lost world, really.
― Doctor Casino, Saturday, 30 July 2022 21:54 (one year ago) link
oh, that's wonderful. love it.
I still sometimes get pangs of regret from throwing out my old soyokaze tapes several moves back, esp end of eva on a cool blue tape.
― (⊙_⊙?) (original bgm), Sunday, 31 July 2022 15:02 (one year ago) link
holy shit...
― ian, Sunday, 31 July 2022 17:33 (one year ago) link
I got all my Fushigi Yuugi and Magic Knight Rayearth and Rurouni Kenshin fansubs from this site I think.
― ian, Sunday, 31 July 2022 17:34 (one year ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=upQYSSXHv7s
― formerly abanana (dat), Friday, 19 May 2023 02:47 (one year ago) link
just watched the first two episodes and there are some moments of true beauty - the cut from shinji seemingly losing his battle with the angel to a blindingly white hospital bed and the "unfamiliar ceilings" title card is wonderful~~~ and the show has some of the best sound fx in any anime from the bestial groans of the eva in battle to all that perfectly calibrated silence
― jveggra va pbqr (Lamp), Tuesday, August 18, 2009 12:26 AM (fourteen years ago)
otm i always loved the way they would isolate the cicadas in quiet outdoor scenes
― a narwhal done gored my sister nell (cankles), Tuesday, August 18, 2009 1:14 AM (fourteen years ago)
i watched the whole series for the first time the last couple weeks, and loved the sound throughout. the cicadas cankles mentioned, so good. sometimes you can hear them muffled through walls, i think. also there are some downright ~terrifying~ screams from shinji in the early episodes, when he's first piloting the EVA's and going into battle. i listened with the english overdub so i'm not sure if the screams are the same or not. but they are horrifying.
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:26 (seven months ago) link
i'll always attach this show to NAS now because if you watch it on netflix and skip the intro, it cuts straight to the last 2 notes of the theme song (which plays at the end of the 26th episode in modified form, hell yeah), and the letters "NAS" flash on the left side of the screen
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:27 (seven months ago) link
Why would you pass up an opportunity to hear Cruel Angel’s Thesis by skipping the intro????
― G. D’Arcy Cheesewright (silby), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:28 (seven months ago) link
i did give it some solid listens. i was skeptical at first but quickly won over.
i haven't given the plot synopsis/wikipedia a read yet, and i missed a bunch of stuff. episodes 20-24, in particular, i was working on other stuff and falling asleep through half of it while big things were happening. i would keep waking up to the words "the sword of longinus"
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:47 (seven months ago) link
also hello silby! <3
shinji's og voice (megumi ogata) is one of the great bloodcurdling screamers of all time
― ivy., Friday, 17 November 2023 16:53 (seven months ago) link
i can and will do a comparison of the screams in the OG vs overdub english version, but i have a suspicion that they just used the OG scream on everything because it is bloodcurdlingly perfect, and it seems out of range for the english actor
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:54 (seven months ago) link
hello ivy! <3
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 17 November 2023 16:55 (seven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kx_1tLRuI30
here's a tour
― ivy., Friday, 17 November 2023 16:55 (seven months ago) link
oops that's a joke video. well the first two screams are real
― ivy., Friday, 17 November 2023 16:56 (seven months ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtSJR2faPFg
― ivy., Friday, 17 November 2023 16:57 (seven months ago) link
(that's just a really good scream)
fuck yes, thank you for finding those. i'm not even much of a scream fanatic! i listen to some heavier music on occasion and i know what gets to me, but it's not like i really know much. but these screams. they are very good! the russian one sounds plausible? i mean it's extreme but so are the other two
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 17 November 2023 17:26 (seven months ago) link
it seems out of range for the english actor
since this will likely never come up again i want to go ahead and acknowledge how wrong i was here. the english scream is different and also very good, i think i prefer it. it wavers in a believable way
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Friday, 17 November 2023 17:27 (seven months ago) link
*spear of longinus
― i really like that!! (z_tbd), Sunday, 19 November 2023 22:56 (six months ago) link