like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

nothing will ever be enough for the transphobes

Yes, this is already being weaponized against her and I expect much more of the same.

Her voting record is not of a transphobe apparently, so that will need to change too.

Suella Braverman has been eliminated.

Seeing that the terfs were foaming about her made me think she might be the best of a bad lot but I also saw the transphobic tweet so in summation - fuck everything

only one left who appears not to be actively hostile to trans rights is tugendhat who isn't any sort of ally but doesn't seem to have any interest in culture warring there

mordaunt is clearly overcompensating for her past pro-trans comments and would probably do anything the transphobes beg of her now. sunak seems more in the johnson camp of not really personally caring but seeing it as politically advantageous, his rhetoric is a fair bit less deranged & he's been focused on the very minor issue opposing gender neutral language instead of e.g. bringing back section 28 and repealing the equality act like the rest are advocating for.

Rishi Sunak - 101 votes (+13)
Penny Mordaunt - 83 votes (+16)
Liz Truss - 64 votes (+14)
Kemi Badenoch - 49 votes (+9)
Tom Tugendhat - 32 votes (-5)

sad to see the tugmentum draining from this contest

True dhat

Ok, so the dhat goes tomorrow, leaving 32 voters to distribute.

PMord got more of the two knocked-out votes, but not by much...

Johnson approval up purely by virtue of virtually resigning?

Why is morduant the favourite at the bookies? Is she that much more more popular with membership?

polls seem to say so
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/07/13/penny-mordaunt-clear-favourite-next-conservative-l
afaict the members really hate #neverrishi because a) snake b) taxes.
Truss was remainer and possibly also a snake.
Badenoch does well on Conservative Home poll but that's maybe less the actual shires membership?

if she want to enjoy a glimpse of the lumpen SA wing of the Tories check out the #NeverRishiSunak tag

if "you" not "she", weird typing malfunction

apparently Mordaunt is the most popular candidate with the Remain wing of the Tories membership which must still be a thing. Braverman just quite bitterly declared she was the only genuine brexiteer amongst all the candidates, boo hoo!

xp yeah #neverrishi plus snake was an enlightening experience yesterday.

possibly it's the likelihood of the Stop Truss and Stop Rishi cliques coalescing around Mordaunt even if they don't like her is the reason why she's the current fav?

in my judgment everyone involved hates everyone else and why wouldn't they?

in my judgment everyone involved hates everyone else and why wouldn't they?

-- morrissey

We hate it when our friends become Tory leader.

Rishi Sunak was "born in a chemist's shop in Southampton", says Matt Hancock. Four Yorkshiremen Sketch remade for the year 2022.

if he'd been born almost exactly a year later he could've been Craig David, alas

Ultimately the only thing to enjoy about this whole circus will be seeing that little shit falling into deserved obscurity (well by billionaire standards) and maybe some of the blue on blue violence to come. Then get to back to dying .. lol. The Mordaunt odds have got slightly shorter and Sunak has gone out half a point to 7/2 since this morning. It looks like at this point, that after so much planning his project is just not quite going the way he expected it to - Boris was miles ahead at this stage in 2019.

Sunak is so going to fuck off out of the UK and never come back if he loses this.

he'll probably fuck off to the US, it won't take him long to renew his green card.

He can slum it in his penthouse in Santa Monica until he gets settled.

possibly it's the likelihood of the Stop Truss and Stop Rishi cliques coalescing around Mordaunt even if they don't like her is the reason why she's the current fav?

― calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 bookmarkflaglink

It's basically seen as a clean break with what has gone before. Badenoch is the same but has quite a bit less experience of cabinet or anything else.

he'll probably fuck off to the US, it won't take him long to renew his green card.

― calzino, Thursday, July 14, 2022 3:16 PM (thirty-four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

they actually make this pretty hard if you lose it by surrendering it early iiuc? you can keep him.

I don't think it will too much of a hurdle for someone who was already loaded and married into a billionaire dynasty, but critical support for strict US immigration bureaucracy if it tells him and his wife to fuck off!

Chris Mason as the chief political correspondent is like that bit of The Great Rock 'n' Roll Swindle where Ed Tudor Poll fronts The Pistols for a song.

mordaunt trans “row” on newsnight now. christian fraser doing a surprisingly good job grilling tories about it now. i.e. “why are you weaponizing trans people?” and “do you believe trans women are women?”

I was just reading this piece, which mentions Morduant's cowardly, disgusting behaviour.

https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2022/07/13/alice-litman-trans-nhs-care/

My dad (old labour type in his 70s, not at all woke) texted me her campaign video and said she is “insane” and “revolting”

apparently Mordaunt is the most popular candidate with the Remain wing of the Tories membership which must still be a thing.

this is bizarre because she supported brexit even during the referendum, unlike truss who just cynically pivoted afterward

I know, it was something mentioned on PM yesterday and I was thinking eh?

and also that bizarre thing of who is a "true brexiteer" brought up by Braverman yesterday. Like it's not enough to have campaigned and voted for it, if you were willing to entertain any of the compromise deals during May's last days then you were faking it.

that £326 cost of living payment I received yesterday was instantly wiped out by a £242.63 dd from British Gas this morning. lol I love this country.

Still £83.37 for the fruit machines tho

got to pay your bet365 tax

Maugham also after Starmer after the LBC interview.

His supporters are also bad at defending him.

I think the reality is probably that he did what he did to be elected leader with an open mind about policy, and reflecting the state of the labour party and its membership when he was elected, but has to be realistic now about what is needed to become a government

— Adam Wagner (@AdamWagner1) July 15, 2022

when Starmer lies for his own career advancement/breaks lockdown rules/has an extramarital affair it's different from when Boris does it and not a reflection of his character... yeah sure.

It's funny.

EXCLUSIVE:

Labour leader Sir @Keir_Starmer has told City A.M. that the UK can have a better economic future outside the EU than inside if the government slashes post-#Brexit red tape and diverges from Brussels’ regulations. https://t.co/ycR5YEleAX

— City A.M. (@CityAM) July 15, 2022

The March of Mordaunt! 💪🏻

— Penny Mordaunt (@PennyMordaunt) July 14, 2022

Wagner saying that lying to 500000 members makes Starmer a savvy political operator sums up the moral vacuity of these barrister melts. At least the good fox nonce has gone on a bit of a journey in the last few years and is unambiguously calling him untrustworthy, which is probably a word that frequently comes up in the focus groups as well.

ideology aside he is a spectacularly bad politician, and watching the blue ticks and plebs desperate to convince themselves otherwise is painful

yeah so far he has shown himself to be anything but savvy. Being a an opportunist and a liar isn't really a special skillset.

Reading this thread of someone talking to their Tory mum and I'd say that Starmer cannot convince anyone of anything. I am sure lots of people who voted for Johnson did so (unlike what the tweet below says) because they were convinced he could get Brexit over the line, and he delivered that.

It’s not going to work like that. Treat people like idiots and they won’t reward you for it.

One of the reasons people supported Johnson and Farage was they ‘said it like it was’. Obv they confected that air of sincerity, but it’s something people crave. That’s why it worked.

— Neville (@catherinebuca) July 12, 2022

The old 'people aren't idiots' with 'people like someone who says it like it is' equation.

there's plenty to learn and discuss about Johnson's successes and failures as a politician. like other right wing performers before him a lot of liberals have decided that he is bad at things when what they mean is he is good at things they don't like. no question that part of his success has been reaching a base that's allowed him to get away with shit because they hate the bland managerialism of a lot of professional politicians. Kieth can't win those people and keep the big brained "bland managerialism is good actually" people onside at the same time.