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Is Mordaunt going to be the next PM?

the pinefox, Thursday, 14 July 2022 10:16 (three years ago)

according to the bookies, yes she's odds on. The humkble little billionaire pocket prince has drifted out to 3/1.

calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 10:26 (three years ago)

^^^
*humble*

xp see also lifelong Tory, Hilary Benn

calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 10:27 (three years ago)

Mordaunt has the advantage of relative obscurity, so no-one's seen how incompetent she is. Not yet, anyway.

and who is not flawed? (Matt #2), Thursday, 14 July 2022 10:29 (three years ago)

Feels like she's being set up for a fall. Media will make a lot of sexist hay about her vs Rayner.

nashwan, Thursday, 14 July 2022 11:08 (three years ago)

Liz Truss opposing the monarchy at the 1994 Lib Dem conferencepic.twitter.com/zU09W4c4aR

— Tides of History (@labour_history) July 14, 2022

Liz Truss - her radical student years coming back to haunt her! Also Mordaunt's team will be deleting all evidence of her Roman Catholic background from her wiki.

calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 11:37 (three years ago)

not a regular poster to this thread but i really hate seeing shit like this, tweeted by peter walker and then copied into the guardian liveblog: "Theresa May has arrived to vote in the second round, looking - as has often been the case in the last week or so - decidedly chipper."

like, who cares how theresa may is looking or feeling? are there more than half a dozen people alive today who are happy that she is experiencing schadenfreude? i've seen similar accounts of her walking merrily into the commons, watching boris squirm under questions. yes, we recall when she was prime minister and was then ousted, it was only a couple of years ago. neither her happiness nor her misery are interesting but her walking around with a smile on her face keeps being mentioned as though some historical injustice were being righted

dogs, Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:02 (three years ago)

Telegraph have started gunning for Mordaunt.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2022/07/13/penny-mordaunt-accused-failing-iraq-veterans-subjected-witch/

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:05 (three years ago)

burn the witch!

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:09 (three years ago)

Liz Truss - her radical student years coming back to haunt her!

Two years later she was in the Conservative Party.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:10 (three years ago)

glory hunter

nashwan, Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:14 (three years ago)

is the feeling amongst the nutbar right that Mordaunt is simply not nutbar enough and therefore must be stopped?

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:18 (three years ago)

re dogs's post: this is what all political journalists and commentators are like, it's halfway between gossip and sport to them, which is why they'll be near the front in the guillotine queue come the day

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:19 (three years ago)

(xp) Yes.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:28 (three years ago)

They've decided they're throwing their lot in with Liz Truss, who is hopeless and will be IDS Mk. II.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:30 (three years ago)

Sunak can't beat Mordaunt in a head to head, not sure if Truss is more vulnerable in that situation.

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:33 (three years ago)

One thing I have learned from this nonsense is how to pronounce Tugendhat.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:47 (three years ago)

every one of these candidates is a tory ghoul and therefore has a long history of hypocrisy, ever-changing positions, corruption, general evil-doing, etc. and we will expect them to have all of this flung at them if they continue in the contest, however Mordaunt seems to be the one best equipped to bat these away by reversing her position or just ignoring it and moving on in the Johnson/Trump style, this is why I suspect she will win.

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:48 (three years ago)

Also I suspect there's a bit of Thatcher fetishism going on.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:52 (three years ago)

Approval Ratings:

Boris Johnson (CON): 31% (+6)
Keir Starmer (LAB): 28% (=)

via
@RedfieldWilton
, 10 Jul

Kieth with a lower approval rating than a flop political corpse that is scheduled to be dissolved in acid. The knives will be out for him when he's hitting Corbyn numbers against a new PM and whatever shit new attack strategy he's attempting isn't working.

calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 12:58 (three years ago)

Sunak can't beat Mordaunt in a head to head, not sure if Truss is more vulnerable in that situation.

polls have mordaunt winning all the head-to-heads, no idea if that holds up and i kinda suspect it's just because she's relatively unknown compared to truss/sunak? i certainly have no idea who she is more broadly

the right of the party is surely going to unite around truss? so it probably just comes down to whether some of sunak's supporters worry he'd absolutely lose the head-to-head vs truss & decide to push mordaunt to the final round instead?

ufo, Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:02 (three years ago)

oh good the terfs have got an #AnyButPenny hashtag on the go

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:15 (three years ago)

housing policy in this country is absolutely criminal and those responsible need to be put before some sort of people's tribunal https://t.co/Wg89PqxC0a

— Tom Blackburn (@malaiseforever) July 14, 2022

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:26 (three years ago)

lol was mordaunt's incredibly transphobic and hateful tweet thread the other day not enough for them??

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:32 (three years ago)

you've got to have a long track record of hate-speech and transphobia to win over this mob, you can't just turn it on like a tap and get instant results!

calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:36 (three years ago)

nothing will ever be enough for the transphobes

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:36 (three years ago)

Yes, this is already being weaponized against her and I expect much more of the same.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:41 (three years ago)

Her voting record is not of a transphobe apparently, so that will need to change too.

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 14 July 2022 13:48 (three years ago)

Suella Braverman has been eliminated.

calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 14:08 (three years ago)

Seeing that the terfs were foaming about her made me think she might be the best of a bad lot but I also saw the transphobic tweet so in summation - fuck everything

I am using your worlds, Thursday, 14 July 2022 14:09 (three years ago)

only one left who appears not to be actively hostile to trans rights is tugendhat who isn't any sort of ally but doesn't seem to have any interest in culture warring there

mordaunt is clearly overcompensating for her past pro-trans comments and would probably do anything the transphobes beg of her now. sunak seems more in the johnson camp of not really personally caring but seeing it as politically advantageous, his rhetoric is a fair bit less deranged & he's been focused on the very minor issue opposing gender neutral language instead of e.g. bringing back section 28 and repealing the equality act like the rest are advocating for.

ufo, Thursday, 14 July 2022 14:15 (three years ago)

Rishi Sunak - 101 votes (+13)
Penny Mordaunt - 83 votes (+16)
Liz Truss - 64 votes (+14)
Kemi Badenoch - 49 votes (+9)
Tom Tugendhat - 32 votes (-5)

Mark G, Thursday, 14 July 2022 14:19 (three years ago)

sad to see the tugmentum draining from this contest

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Thursday, 14 July 2022 14:52 (three years ago)

True dhat

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 14:55 (three years ago)

Ok, so the dhat goes tomorrow, leaving 32 voters to distribute.

PMord got more of the two knocked-out votes, but not by much...

Mark G, Thursday, 14 July 2022 15:27 (three years ago)

Johnson approval up purely by virtue of virtually resigning?

nashwan, Thursday, 14 July 2022 16:05 (three years ago)

Why is morduant the favourite at the bookies? Is she that much more more popular with membership?

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 July 2022 16:06 (three years ago)

polls seem to say so
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/articles-reports/2022/07/13/penny-mordaunt-clear-favourite-next-conservative-l
afaict the members really hate #neverrishi because a) snake b) taxes.
Truss was remainer and possibly also a snake.
Badenoch does well on Conservative Home poll but that's maybe less the actual shires membership?

woof, Thursday, 14 July 2022 16:29 (three years ago)

if she want to enjoy a glimpse of the lumpen SA wing of the Tories check out the #NeverRishiSunak tag

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 July 2022 16:30 (three years ago)

if "you" not "she", weird typing malfunction

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 14 July 2022 16:31 (three years ago)

apparently Mordaunt is the most popular candidate with the Remain wing of the Tories membership which must still be a thing. Braverman just quite bitterly declared she was the only genuine brexiteer amongst all the candidates, boo hoo!

calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 16:31 (three years ago)

xp yeah #neverrishi plus snake was an enlightening experience yesterday.

woof, Thursday, 14 July 2022 16:32 (three years ago)

possibly it's the likelihood of the Stop Truss and Stop Rishi cliques coalescing around Mordaunt even if they don't like her is the reason why she's the current fav?

calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 16:50 (three years ago)

in my judgment everyone involved hates everyone else and why wouldn't they?

mark s, Thursday, 14 July 2022 16:55 (three years ago)

in my judgment everyone involved hates everyone else and why wouldn't they?

-- morrissey

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 July 2022 17:03 (three years ago)

We hate it when our friends become Tory leader.

Dan Worsley, Thursday, 14 July 2022 17:07 (three years ago)

Rishi Sunak was "born in a chemist's shop in Southampton", says Matt Hancock. Four Yorkshiremen Sketch remade for the year 2022.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 18:30 (three years ago)

if he'd been born almost exactly a year later he could've been Craig David, alas

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 14 July 2022 18:39 (three years ago)

Ultimately the only thing to enjoy about this whole circus will be seeing that little shit falling into deserved obscurity (well by billionaire standards) and maybe some of the blue on blue violence to come. Then get to back to dying .. lol. The Mordaunt odds have got slightly shorter and Sunak has gone out half a point to 7/2 since this morning. It looks like at this point, that after so much planning his project is just not quite going the way he expected it to - Boris was miles ahead at this stage in 2019.

calzino, Thursday, 14 July 2022 18:41 (three years ago)

Sunak is so going to fuck off out of the UK and never come back if he loses this.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 July 2022 19:05 (three years ago)


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