how do i make it clear the tendency is the problem and not whatever individuals i use as examples or whether they're currently on some sex pest podcast. i can keep giving more examples but it always turns into a referendum on the person and their morality every time in what feels like an exercise in deliberate point missing. like didn't this just happen with the kamala thing on the other thread
― Left, Monday, 11 July 2022 21:34 (one year ago) link
maybe posting things to threads purely based on a negative association in your mind in an attempt to do some sort of vague dunk on an undifferentiated mass of posters is counterproductive?
― mh, Monday, 11 July 2022 21:40 (one year ago) link
Not sure how to read a thread revive about Bruenig's abortion op-ed as being not about Bruenig at all.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 11 July 2022 21:42 (one year ago) link
i'm pissed off at podcasters/columnists/influencers more than posters for the most part although it is infuriating when ppl pretend not to see the most obvious shit xp you know it's not-not about her but that she's not the point you know this shit isn't as atomised as the norms of liberal discourse demand you pretend it is. come on ffs
― Left, Monday, 11 July 2022 21:49 (one year ago) link
gets deep in the woods on some conservative nerd shit but I really enjoyed the latest KYE crossover ep
― no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Monday, 18 July 2022 02:41 (one year ago) link
Overall like the Korea Blowback intro but I can’t stand the left tic of saying “it’s not as bad as you might think in North Korea, not saying it’s a lovely place to live but it gets turned into a cartoon.” I guess maybe every single escapee account I’ve read could just be state dept propaganda, but then you don’t have to be an escapee from most countries in the first place.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 13:50 (one year ago) link
well, not yet anyway I haven’t listened to it but will prob get to it later this week
― no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 14:05 (one year ago) link
The Unit 684 story is wild.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_684
― jmm, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 14:34 (one year ago) link
this seemed interesting, so i listened to about half. i will get to the rest eventually.
i want to respond to the post about the left tic of saying north korea is lovely.
there are some refugee interviews that paint a more complicated picture. some of the interviewees are homesick. of course, these are in the context of arriving in the south and finding it to be less pleasant than they imagined. however, there is limited access to these in english translation, or they appear in obscure korea institute for national unification publications. i remember reading one series that stuck with me (this is in an article about media consumption called "forbidden audience"): three young people are quoted and say that the thing they miss most about north korea was that there was no pressure. since family connections were the only way to rise, there was no pressure to study. they were free to fool around. one boy reminisces fondly about the group fights he took part in. one girl says that it would be a paradise for children, if there was enough to eat.
but there wasn't enough to eat, at least for her. the defensiveness on north korea does seem misguided. it is not as bad as you might think. it is more normal than you might think. if you are in your teens or twenties or even your early thirties, you have mostly seen standards of living improve. but i don't see what's wrong with point out that it's not a paradise on earth, especially if you are trying to make some anti-imperialist point. it's fair to admit that some of what we know about north korea is not a cartoon. and not all but a large part of the reason that north korea has still not recovered fully from the 1990s is because of the program of sanctions.
― XxxxxxxXxxxxxxxxXxxxx (dylannn), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 15:29 (one year ago) link
in bad country, police can murder the populace without consequence and government locks up 639 out of every 100,000 people, the highest rate in the world
― Your Favorite Album in the Cutout Bin, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 15:57 (one year ago) link
well, not yet anyway
^scans as glib and def that wasnt my intention.
i do often (prob too often) find myself contemplating how a series of snapshots just from the last couple of years might play out if we weren't the world's hegemonic colossus. another much more powerful nation with with opposed interests and an insanely deep-pocketed & well-oiled propaganda arm could probably make hay out of a Uvalde mom being monitored and harassed by the force (likely the only municipal endeavor her town will fund with public dollars) that was too incompetent and cowardly to stop a teenager from murdering her kid. or a homeless person in LA--possibly due to medical debt, or more likely, the flood of opioids courtesy of Sackler family greed, protected and subsidized at every level by the federal govt--being shuttled out to the desert to die of dehydration in our richest state and the world's 6th largest economy. a Ferguson resident living for years under what amounts to an occupying imperial force that murders with impunity, all while being a short drive to suburbs/ exurbs full of American flags and platitudes about FREEDOM stuck to every other 70k truck bumper. and coming soon: 11 year old rape victims being forced to carry a pregnancy to term, or women arrested and possibly imprisoned for having an entropic pregnancy who seek out a solution that would save their lives. if these people were to escape and given asylum by a world power opposed to our economy, or way of life or very existence, i suspect the rest of the 'civilized' world's already grim view of the US would be magnified and multiplied in ways that could seem like a funhouse mirror to the more comfortable among us here.
― no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 17:25 (one year ago) link
US has a perfect mix of empathetic people who nonetheless get overwhelmed and prob fatigued by everything flying at you faster and more horrific than the month or year before,, aand those we'll call "less charitable" who can always always reason away that for most or even all of these afflicted, they’re at their very core somehow at fault and deserve it.
― no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 17:30 (one year ago) link
As much as we could do the thought experiment of "what would it look like if you just took a bunch of snapshots of US life and compared them to North Korea," I find it very hard to believe that, on average, life is better (or, indeed, not significantly worse) there than here. I mean there's like a 42% estimated malnutrition rate (1% in the US). The US's contribution to the conditions that created that situation is a different question, but I feel like it really undermines the point when we get these smug, gotcha comparisons.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 18:20 (one year ago) link
there are lots of non-sanctioned countries that can match those numbers (one being Yemen, despite all the weapons we keep selling to the country that murdered one of our journalists)i also believe that our good fortune wrt nutrition and basically everything else is very much at the expense of the global south.
i'm really not trying to do a gotcha. it's just like, where in the actual fuck do we get off, you know?
― no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link
Then it’s good news that the people behind many of the things you disapprove of are pretty cool with NK now.
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 20:45 (one year ago) link
Really want to see a movie based on Unit 684 from the John Wick crew.
― papal hotwife (milo z), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 21:59 (one year ago) link
what would happen if you were able to merge the US and NK in a reality warping machine? we’ve got a 41.9% obesity rate, which makes me wonder if someone already used such a machine to divide a hypothetical country into two in our world
― mh, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 22:36 (one year ago) link
they would cancel out any redeeming features of each other and it would be the most horrifying dystopia imaginable
― Left, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link
well, that’s one take
― mh, Tuesday, 26 July 2022 22:41 (one year ago) link
NK: hey, they have a low BMI at least
― Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 26 July 2022 22:44 (one year ago) link
what would happen if you were able to merge the US and NK in a reality warping machine?
the UK
― Led By Honkies (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 28 July 2022 08:36 (one year ago) link
authoritarian nanny state stripped of any non-punitive or notionally egalitarian commitments... rampant capitalist development without any dynamism or social mobility... state enforced for-profit cult over a hereditary elite whose crimes put the kims' to shame...
― Left, Thursday, 28 July 2022 14:19 (one year ago) link
shame is v out of style everywhere tbh
― Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Thursday, 28 July 2022 14:51 (one year ago) link
Forget about Liz being weird, fuck this guy
Oh man, just seeing that Bill Russell died, a legend of the game who at his prime could not make a modern-day G League team.— Matt Bruenig (@MattBruenig) August 2, 2022
― papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 03:16 (one year ago) link
long-winded excoriation of left-wingers who didn't have a strong reproduction rights stance in recent episode, I guess we'll see who's on the show in the future
― mh, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 03:20 (one year ago) link
I'd love another April Fools (was that the holiday?) episode where the significant others take over. Katherine's fun!
― mh, Wednesday, 3 August 2022 03:21 (one year ago) link
Yay! You guys won!
I’ve never understood the Liz Bruenig hate & am sad to see her leave Twitter.— David Griscom (@DavidGriscom) August 3, 2022
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 14:27 (one year ago) link
“read the whole conversation on twitter”HARD NO
― Warning: Choking Hazard (Hunt3r), Wednesday, 3 August 2022 18:46 (one year ago) link
Live Chapo show in Portland tmrw evening, first one in four years. Let’s see how this one goes
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 4 August 2022 06:04 (one year ago) link
Liz Bruenig appears to be back on Twitter, The Silencing has ended, save your tears
― made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Thursday, 4 August 2022 07:06 (one year ago) link
She’s been harassed into deleting again. For the sake of her mental health, I hope she takes a proper break from it, as much as it sucks to have to say that.
― Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 4 August 2022 17:06 (one year ago) link
xxp did you go, kingfish?
― mh, Sunday, 7 August 2022 14:08 (one year ago) link
Yeah. The second half was a reading series on the “buying property as self-actualization for women after breakups” helped by Kath Krueger and Amber Rollo as guests. Ex-Simpsons writer and current snacks podcaster Bill Oakley joined to talk about the three-course meal of sampled local dishes that the hosts ate.
Pretty good show.
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Sunday, 7 August 2022 16:43 (one year ago) link
Was this the Slate Culture Podcast?
― F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Sunday, 7 August 2022 18:59 (one year ago) link
Matt sounds pretty sober for an Inebriated Past
― papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 7 August 2022 22:34 (one year ago) link
xxp nice! I liked the episode where Kath and Amber took over and I was a Mission Hill fan so I'd be excited to see Bill tbh
― mh, Monday, 8 August 2022 14:44 (one year ago) link
cool stuffhttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZ0psDyWQAA98nS?format=png
― Left, Thursday, 11 August 2022 10:55 (one year ago) link
Already deleted. Although if you're emplyoying Tucker Carlson I don't really see why you would baulk at a predator.
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 11 August 2022 11:34 (one year ago) link
Also Bill Kristol is catholic now??
― Daniel_Rf, Thursday, 11 August 2022 11:36 (one year ago) link
How many "reading those articles sounds like my version of hell" responses did they get before the tweet went bye-bye?
― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, 11 August 2022 11:58 (one year ago) link
"think about hell" otm
― Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 11 August 2022 11:59 (one year ago) link
Guess we know the answer to "Where's Virgil?"
― President Keyes, Thursday, 11 August 2022 14:37 (one year ago) link
Virgil finally providing a guide to Hell
― symsymsym, Thursday, 11 August 2022 14:54 (one year ago) link
― Mar - a - Lago, or 120 Days of Sodom (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 11 August 2022 14:57 (one year ago) link
dasha has been DFA'd by the catholic church to clear space on the 40-man roster for virgil texas— ryan (@baseballworId) August 10, 2022
― papal hotwife (milo z), Thursday, 11 August 2022 17:56 (one year ago) link
Sam Kriss writes for that magazine too.
― President Keyes, Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:25 (one year ago) link
alas, it appears they tagged the wrong account by mistake— 𝖋𝖚𝖑𝖎𝖌𝖎𝖓 𝖋𝖑𝖎𝖕𝖋𝖑𝖔𝖕𝖘 ◾️◼️◾️ (@punishedfuligin) August 10, 2022
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Thursday, 11 August 2022 18:45 (one year ago) link
from his parents' massive house or did they kick him out yet xp
much research to be done on the concerted right wing wooing of cancelled leftists but I'm far too queasy to do it myself
if it's a mistake on their part it's funny they chose someone so perfect I mean this would be the logical direction for him wouldn't it
― Left, Thursday, 11 August 2022 19:12 (one year ago) link
Chapo plus Trillbillies is a good combo. T&T bring more warmth and humanity to the show but still have the wit to match with the Chapo guys, but Trillbillies alone can tend to get a bit too drifty.
― longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 19 August 2022 00:19 (one year ago) link
yeah, agree on all points
― made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Friday, 19 August 2022 01:31 (one year ago) link