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The béguines were nuns without the vows and the very lack of vows was a testament to their piety.

That's not what my sources suggest! Since the béguinage didn't require vows, you could leave any time. This made it (at least in the view of the "men of letters" of the time, c. 1300) a bit suspicious -- women were only half-cloistered, after all, and it was almost a way of them to sidestep social structures. So it was seen as sort of conveeeeeenient that women be religious for a while until something presumably better came along.

But a crush is a sort of amateur, disposable devotion. Interesting.

[That dictionary site looks awesome, I am totally crushing on it.]

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:04 (nineteen years ago)

This made it (at least in the view of the "men of letters" of the time, c. 1300) a bit suspicious -- women were only half-cloistered, after all, and it was almost a way of them to sidestep social structures.

However, eventually the béguines became seen as bigots (or paragons of piety), for whatever reason, (the suspicion of the 14th century may have given way to an admiration for women who stayed even if they didn't have to, I don't know) and to act like one was faire la béguine and eventually béguiner. Interestingly, there were béguins in medieval Belgium male equivalents to the ladies, but the present word for 'crush' only dates back to the 19th cent and derives from the verb, supposedly.

― Michael White, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:18 (nineteen years ago)

I'm trying to think of an English equivalent. "I've got a major vestrywoman for that barista"?

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:33 (nineteen years ago)

Go up to the barista and tell her you'd join a monastery if the order worshipped her (and there were no vows of celibacy, obviously). Let me know how it all works out.

― Michael White, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

jon williams and bernie mac

― homosexual II, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

I still can't see Billy Kennedy in House without laffing, however I think I might have a crush on Dr Cameron - she has that whole seemingly cute and fragile yet actually strict and steely thing going on...

But, but those awful waistcoats! At this stage my crush on Hugh Laurie, which began when I saw him in Peter's Friends is beyond ridiculous.

I am enjoying the dictionary discussion.

― accentmonkey, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:36 (nineteen years ago)

Cameron does nada for me.

― Michael White, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:41 (nineteen years ago)

J'en ai toujours au moins un petit béguin pour une demoiselle ou une autre.

i now have a crush on michael white.

― lxy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:44 (nineteen years ago)

C'est mignon, lxy. Dis, tu viens ici souvent? ;)

― Michael White, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:47 (nineteen years ago)

I have crushes! They are not healthy ones though, one on a girlfriend of a wonderful bro who is not to be betrayed, one on roomy's (married) boss, and another on a doesn't-meet-half-plus-seven-rule youngster of a baristress at coffee shop around corner (how original).

There is a girl I was bros with back in high school who was always hot but I just didn't get it back then, I have seen her at the grocery every Monday for 3 weeks, I am afraid I am grocering on Mondays now just to see her. This however is likely just a crush of convenience and will pass with the clementine sale.

― nickalicious, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:49 (nineteen years ago)

oui, maintenant!

― lxy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:50 (nineteen years ago)

C'est à dire, mademoiselle?

― Michael White, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 19:54 (nineteen years ago)

That effing hottie from yesterday is back in the lab! I will have to go soon.

― Casuistry, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:04 (nineteen years ago)

;)

― lxy, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 20:05 (nineteen years ago)

i've made the mistake of Doing Something About My Crush which may well lead to tears :(

Ken, if it makes you feel any better, I did the same thing 2 weeks ago after a few too many straight scotches. I declared my crush to my crush. As a result, he turned up at the beach last weekend with a new girlfriend (and her 3 kids). No bigger turnoff than a just-add-water-family. :(

Now I have to find a new crush.

― Hard like armour, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:27 (nineteen years ago)

As a result

You mean he just ran out and grabbed some lady prophylactically?!

― Michael White, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:29 (nineteen years ago)

I think I scared him. :(

― Hard like armour, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:34 (nineteen years ago)

crushes are or what.

― ian, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:48 (nineteen years ago)

No bigger turnoff than a just-add-water-family. :(

Just-add-effluvium-family?

― Michael White, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 21:56 (nineteen years ago)

I've made up my mind to get rejected by my crush this weekend and get it over with.

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:01 (nineteen years ago)

A crush would do wonders for my worldview right now, actually, because crushes are evidence of hope!

― Laurel, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

No! Don't do it! Continue to live the dream...

― Hard like armour, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:05 (nineteen years ago)

How is living without hope 'the dream'?

― Michael White, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

Cuddling and fucking fulfill different purposes, but when I'm not in a relationship, I miss cuddling way more, because while you can always just jerk off, you can't cuddle yourself.

― jaymc, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

OR CAN YOU

― jaymc, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

laurel i feel the same way.
i havent had a proper crush since 1998

― homosexual II, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

Oh man also there's another crush on a girl who came over and jammed last week w/ her trumpet and I wasn't sure how fair game she was because she came over with some dude who thinks there is something happening btween them only he has a girlfriend who's not her. We had wicked good jams and she said my spicy-sweet cornbread was the best conrbread she'd ever had.

― nickalicious, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:10 (nineteen years ago)

my spicy-sweet cornbread was the best conrbread she'd ever had.

sounds like love.

― Ms Misery, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:13 (nineteen years ago)

Cuddling and fucking fulfill different purposes, but when I'm not in a relationship, I miss cuddling way more, because while you can always just jerk off, you can't cuddle yourself.

This is equal parts OTM & hilarious, kudos.

― nickalicious, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

How is living without hope 'the dream'?

Uh I think that was an xpost to me, Dr. Michael White.

(dream schmeam)

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

I wasn't sure how fair game she was because she came over with some dude who thinks there is something happening btween them only he has a girlfriend who's not her

What kind of claim could dude have?

― Michael White, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:14 (nineteen years ago)

http://images.amazon.com/images/P/B0001HAIVS.01._SCMZZZZZZZ_.jpg

― Jordan, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:15 (nineteen years ago)

i'm beginning to think crushes are great but they aren't for me.

― chicago kevin, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:16 (nineteen years ago)

Well, he met her first and brought her over/introduced us, I think that is fair dibs. Although he's no bro of mine, actually kind of a douche, so maybe I shouldn't let that get in my way.

― nickalicious, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:17 (nineteen years ago)

How is living without hope 'the dream'?

Uh I think that was an xpost to me, Dr. Michael White

Yes.

― Hard like armour, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:31 (nineteen years ago)

Nick, if dude has a girlfriend, then he definitely has no claim on Trumpet Girl. Blow that horn baby.

― Hard like armour, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:32 (nineteen years ago)

Oh, that makes sense.

― Michael White, Tuesday, 6 March 2007 22:45 (nineteen years ago)

Argh, saw my crush yesterday and he is still awesome, yes. He gave me some mud crab.

― Hard like armour, Monday, 12 March 2007 01:09 (nineteen years ago)

I read that as "gave me crabs".

― jessie monster, Monday, 12 March 2007 01:10 (nineteen years ago)

I haven't gotten that close...yet.

― Hard like armour, Monday, 12 March 2007 01:11 (nineteen years ago)

exhibitionist girl across the street!

― THIS PIECE, RENDERED IN 1992-ERA CONSUMER-GRADE SOFTWARE, FEATURES A COMMENTARY , Monday, 12 March 2007 01:20 (nineteen years ago)

One of my bosses who I keep getting weird signals from. So cute.

― Ivan, Monday, 12 March 2007 02:52 (nineteen years ago)

you know who you is

― modestmickey, Monday, 12 March 2007 05:00 (nineteen years ago)

no crush but tonight i pulled for the first time, it was a) kinda for a dare because i admitted i'd never done it, b) quite pleasant, and c) quite lengthy.

ARGH

― unfished business, Monday, 12 March 2007 05:01 (nineteen years ago)

congrats louis! how far did it go?

― modestmickey, Monday, 12 March 2007 05:03 (nineteen years ago)

erm, as it was all for a dare there was no consummation, but i was manually stimulated in turn by the girl i pulled and a boy who was also in the room, who wanted to see my knob in a fully erect state. alas, i had drunk far too much to get it all the way up (it still beat HIS even at 90%) and the full glory was spared. there were 3 boys and 3 girls in the room, all 3 boys and 1 of the girls were fully naked, and the other 2 girls were only wearing knickers. the night ended (after the naked girl upped sticks and headed off) with a wanking contest, the 2 remaining girls (whose idea it was) watching intently as we strived to bring ourselves to climax. it took me about twice as long as anyone else, mostly through fear of being struck by another's jet, being as i was in the centre of the three. throughout, i was made up in lipstick, rouge and a headband, and when i had been wearing clothes it had been drag. one of those ordinary student nights, then...

― unfished business, Monday, 12 March 2007 11:52 (nineteen years ago)

That's a parody post, right?

― Mark C, Monday, 12 March 2007 12:11 (nineteen years ago)

WHAT. OMG. OMG. MUST INSTALL KILLFILE AT WORK. OMG MY EYES.

― jessie monster, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:52 (nineteen years ago)

i was about to post something droll and catty but louis's post has taken the wind out of my sails somewhat.

― CharlieNo4, Monday, 12 March 2007 13:58 (nineteen years ago)

"bring back national service" would suffice I think.

― Marcello Carlin, Monday, 12 March 2007 14:05 (nineteen years ago)

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