like the queen this thread will never die: in which we ALL resign (ourselves to disgusting miseries to post-boris politics 2022)

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brexit is a disaster for a number of reasons (not least giving a large mandate for the worst ppl in the world to further erode the rights of workers) but also it’s not like being part of a neoliberal trading bloc was really doing much for immiserated ppl either xp

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Friday, 8 July 2022 16:01 (three years ago)

Lib Dems. That makes sense. Yay for the SNP.

Shouldn't economic issues matter more to Labour than nationalist ones?

Perhaps liberal democracy and socialism have different meanings now or the context is different but parts of what came before remain.

Labour has votes it doesn't want to lose because of the risk; it takes a leap of faith(?).


A big part of the attacks on Corbyn are much the same as with any leftist - unpatriotic, traitorous, hates Britain etc. There was a good Twitter thread subsequently written up in the guardian that drew a clear line from the nature of many of the attacks on his Labour Party to white supremacy.

Even Corbyn’s commendable record of campaigning against the geopolitical grain, such as for dispossessed Tamils, Chagossians and Palestinians, came to be seen as evidence that he didn’t know which side he was supposed to be on. A symbolic moment of the campaign was the first leaders’ debate, when Corbyn highlighted the impact that the climate crisis would have on the poorest people in the world and a section of the audience responded with groans and someone shouted, “Here we go again!”

When people talk about having paid into the system all their lives, as I heard repeatedly at the doorstep, they’re not just talking about national insurance payments and the benefits they’re entitled to.

They’re talking about loyalty to a state they expected to be their exclusive patron – and they saw a Labour leader who seemed to invite the whole world to his allotment, offering homemade jam to all, no matter which flags their ancestors spilt their blood for.
With such voters, retired or coming towards the end of their careers, Corbyn’s collectivist language of what we could build together left them sceptical and uncomprehending. It seemed more zero sum to them, where one person’s gain must be another’s loss. A small hoard has been salvaged from the UK’s long post-imperial decline, and only those whose fealty is proven can claim their share.


This is a big part of why Starmer is going heavy on the flag fucking.

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Friday, 8 July 2022 16:03 (three years ago)

^^^ as bad as the “unpatriotic” attacks on this stuff were the detestable aggro-centrists — what we sometimes call melts — who were a bit more circumspect about going full gammon but would sneer at any display of solidarity like this as “student politics”, not something grownups care about in the zero-sum game of caring about things where EU face paint must take precedence

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Friday, 8 July 2022 16:11 (three years ago)

Sunak is standing with a video whose script seems to follow from his letter of resignation. Time for austerity, forever.

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 July 2022 16:34 (three years ago)

readyforrishi.com registered on 23/12/2022

https://who.is/whois/readyforrishi.com

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 8 July 2022 16:38 (three years ago)

I mean 23/12/2011 obvs

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 8 July 2022 16:38 (three years ago)

no I dont

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 8 July 2022 16:38 (three years ago)

too hot today

23/12/2021

there we go

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 8 July 2022 16:38 (three years ago)

This is cool, finally something for the Labour Party to define it's own values against

oh god

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 July 2022 16:39 (three years ago)

The PM has appointed a deputy leader of the House of Commons - congratulations @PeterBoneUK pic.twitter.com/KLxMnJkZOa

— PARLY (@PARLYapp) July 8, 2022

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Friday, 8 July 2022 17:14 (three years ago)

Rishi Sunak launches his campaign website, the domain of which was registered in December 2021 pic.twitter.com/xcv8JQ1xQC

— insane moments in british politics (@PoliticsMoments) July 8, 2022

"GoDaddy.com" lols. based on not much at all I don't think this overambitious little broomstick is going to win it. Penny Mordaunt is a royal navy reservist, she could probably pick him up with one hand and fling him over a wall. And she seems to have much broader appeal :p

calzino, Friday, 8 July 2022 18:07 (three years ago)

Take this with a pinch of, but Nadine etc...

Mark G, Friday, 8 July 2022 18:21 (three years ago)

I hope they do make him leader, he's an abject lightweight (in more ways than one) with multiple skeletons waiting to dance out of his closet.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 8 July 2022 18:22 (three years ago)

suspect a decent chunk of the tory membership is just not going to vote for a non-white person to be leader, whatever they say in opinion polls

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 8 July 2022 18:27 (three years ago)

There's a reason Ben Wallace is leading on ConHome, and the reason isn't Ben Wallace

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 8 July 2022 18:29 (three years ago)

But it'll depend on who gets into the final two.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 8 July 2022 18:30 (three years ago)

Wallace and Scromit

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Friday, 8 July 2022 18:34 (three years ago)

Can’t wait to find out who a few thousand mummified nazi freaks think should rule us

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Friday, 8 July 2022 18:44 (three years ago)

Just read a newspaper for that

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Friday, 8 July 2022 18:50 (three years ago)

Laura K, with great solemnity: I’m hearing the bloodied entrails in conservative hq have produced a result…the winner’s about to emerge…oh it’s the reanimated corpse of Enoch Powell! I don’t fancy Labour’s chances against that!

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Friday, 8 July 2022 18:53 (three years ago)

Daily Mail editorial the next day begins with “Is the new Tory leader too WOKE for today’s world?”

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Friday, 8 July 2022 18:54 (three years ago)

lol

I’m out of touch, I thought lk had fucked off by now

Wiggum Dorma (wins), Friday, 8 July 2022 18:58 (three years ago)

Oh she has, but like the spectator garden parties she is eternal

The @BBCPolitics Time Lords had plenty to talk about at @TheSpectator Summer Party last night. All agree the new Dr - @ChrisMasonBBC - is doing a brilliant job pic.twitter.com/J1UCVqvNZi

— Nick Robinson (@bbcnickrobinson) July 8, 2022

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Friday, 8 July 2022 19:08 (three years ago)

He’s ready

Your original version was working well pic.twitter.com/03ovkiC0ZZ

— Jon (@giftedrascal) July 8, 2022

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Friday, 8 July 2022 20:07 (three years ago)

is that really the best photo he has?
where do they find these f-grade humans?

Sudden Birdnet Thus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 8 July 2022 20:15 (three years ago)

the face of a man who has just been caught browsing wikifeet on company time

built like a kit malthouse (bizarro gazzara), Friday, 8 July 2022 21:05 (three years ago)

Another tractor fan.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 8 July 2022 21:11 (three years ago)

Lol

Sunak’s campaign video has 4.3m views out of a U.K. population of approx 68m: https://t.co/pRvoWLbBn1

— Ben Judah (@b_judah) July 8, 2022

xyzzzz__, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:19 (three years ago)

cursed spectator garden party photos: a thread pic.twitter.com/hJMpFk07Ip

— axaxaxas lmäo (@demarionunn) July 8, 2022

nashwan, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:53 (three years ago)

Yeah, he had all that suspiciously ready...

Xpost

Mark G, Friday, 8 July 2022 21:54 (three years ago)

(xp) If only COVID was still rampant.

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Friday, 8 July 2022 22:06 (three years ago)

I really despise the way Tory leadership contests are drawn out over multiple rounds. They should have one vote and the candidate who gets most votes wins. FPTP only for the plebs apparently!

Grandpont Genie, Friday, 8 July 2022 22:16 (three years ago)

"You lied this country into a war that cost 1000's of lives. Boris Johnson ate some cake."

Haha! Alastair Campbell did NOT like that. 😂#bbcqt pic.twitter.com/qgYCMhWxBY

— Lee Harris (@addicted2newz) July 7, 2022

"well he better be careful what he says because the last guy Dr David Kelly, he regretted it"

calzino, Friday, 8 July 2022 22:25 (three years ago)

That's amazing lol

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 July 2022 08:15 (three years ago)

The Telegraph keeping it real pic.twitter.com/BUA90Qd56d

— Priyamvada Gopal (@PriyamvadaGopal) July 9, 2022

coming soon, Helen Lewis on why "levelling up" should be more landed gentry inclusive

calzino, Saturday, 9 July 2022 09:15 (three years ago)

more like Helen Lewis on why levelling up is an attack on women's sex-based rights

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 July 2022 09:18 (three years ago)

Look at this cunt.

Of all the things you could criticise the current Conservative Party for, “people from ethnic minorities can’t do well in it” strikes me as a tough one to sustain.

— Tom Hamilton (@thhamilton) July 9, 2022

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 July 2022 09:50 (three years ago)

Another tell the truth/cut government to the bone/kick the woke truther.

I was going to call her the "let them eat culture war candidate" but there are at least two of them in the race already. Like all political claims to tell bold truths, it prefaces a recitation of cliché and bromide – in which the median Tory member will feel very much at home. https://t.co/ch2yOxT1pj

— James B (@piercepenniless) July 9, 2022

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 July 2022 10:31 (three years ago)

it might be true to say that Conservative MPs as a whole are more ideologically diverse than the PLP at this point

of course they're all terrible ideologies but still

bury my heart in wounded kieth (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 9 July 2022 10:34 (three years ago)

none of the ethnic minority Tory MPs have been treated as badly as Apsana Begum. Labour are given more leeway by the media to be racist, as long as they are left-wing MPs.

calzino, Saturday, 9 July 2022 10:39 (three years ago)

of course it's also a factional thing as well with her ex-husband involved

calzino, Saturday, 9 July 2022 10:42 (three years ago)

but still the islamophobia in the PLP is possibly even worse than in the Tories. I mean subjecting your own voters to racist slurs in a by-election has left a legacy that will be around for a while.

calzino, Saturday, 9 July 2022 10:45 (three years ago)

The Apsana Begum treatment is misogynist as well as racist, like the party has sided with her abusive husband over her. It’s entirely indefensible.

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Saturday, 9 July 2022 10:50 (three years ago)

it's a scandal and there is barely any coverage and seeing Labour members parroting the party line on it is sick making.

calzino, Saturday, 9 July 2022 10:55 (three years ago)

Especially when you compare it to the coverage Luciana Berger got.

Piedie Gimbel, Saturday, 9 July 2022 10:59 (three years ago)

Luciana Berger is also a red princess, so there’s that too (her great uncle was some Lab grandee).

put a VONC on it (suzy), Saturday, 9 July 2022 11:33 (three years ago)

Ben Wallace not standing for the leadership. Who will racists vote for now?

Eavis Has Left the Building (Tom D.), Saturday, 9 July 2022 11:38 (three years ago)

Ben Wallace has a track record of posting positive things about Jeremy Corbyn in 2015!

He could never have withstood scrutiny of these scandalous statements!

the pinefox, Saturday, 9 July 2022 11:39 (three years ago)

I don't think that one tweet over Corbyn made over five years ago is the reason he is not running.

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 9 July 2022 11:43 (three years ago)

Berger situation not comparable IMO. Whatever you may think of her, she was subject to antisemitic harassment from white supremacists, several of whom were jailed for doing so. I believe her when she says the party didn’t do enough to support her - that goes back to the time she was first elected, because if there’s one thing that remains true, it’s that the Labour Party is truly awful at supporting any of its MPs. She also called out Alistair Campbell for the antisemitic posters when she was going out with Blair’s son, so it’s never been something she’s stayed quiet on. Do I think everything she says was in good faith? No. But I think it’s easy to see if you look back as far as 2005, when she was calling Blair’s Labour out, that antisemitism is (obviously) extremely personal to her and something she feels strongly about. If I felt I wasn’t getting support from my political home during a time of harassment, idk if I’d be necessarily fucked to stand up for them, you know?

Osama bin Chinese (gyac), Saturday, 9 July 2022 11:51 (three years ago)


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