We. Would. CRY.: US Politics, July 2022

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Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Saturday, 2 July 2022 16:34 (three years ago)

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jaymc, Saturday, 2 July 2022 16:38 (three years ago)

Imagine being Liz Cheney and being the only semi-competent human being on stage and... knowing that you're going to lose to them.

I imagine her essential self-confidence and sense of self-worth will not be damaged by the loss, nor will her financial situation, but the only shield I can imagine that would be powerful enough to deflect the sheer frustration of being thrown out by those yahoos and nincompoops would be an invincible arrogance - and hers just may be equal to that task.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 2 July 2022 16:56 (three years ago)

Yeah I mean also fuck her obviously.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Saturday, 2 July 2022 17:00 (three years ago)

It's a great indication of where we are, that a Cheney is the one we look to in the Republican party as doing the right and honorable thing.

I have to say, like Kamala Harris, she would make a great prosecutor--or, better, a defense lawyer. Her skills would be put to much better use in that context.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 2 July 2022 17:02 (three years ago)

Wyoming is an open primary state, no?

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 July 2022 17:21 (three years ago)

From Ballotpedia:

Wyoming law stipulates that parties conduct open primaries for congressional and state-level offices. While a voter must be affiliated with a political party in order to participate in its primary election, any voter, regardless of previous partisan affiliation, may change his or her affiliation on the day of the primary.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 2 July 2022 17:23 (three years ago)

Yeah, fuck Cheney obviously, but also fuck all those other clowns on stage more. What a country. xxp

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Saturday, 2 July 2022 17:23 (three years ago)

This doesn’t speak to whether McConnell will live up to his end of the bargain

if only we knew something about his track record in this regard

o if only

fwiw I was recently talking to my sister, who knows (but does not like) Liz Cheney, and is pretty sure she's playing a longer game. Wyoming is not the world, after all.

Nutellanor Roosevelt (Ye Mad Puffin), Saturday, 2 July 2022 21:18 (three years ago)

Sounds right. also

an invincible arrogance - and hers just may be equal to that task.
Her heritage--but bet she gets all manner of threats. She may be terrible down the road, and she spoke against same-sex marriage, despite her sister's, when she originally inserted herself into the Wyoming Republican primary, and also said the very conservative incumbent was not patriotic enough etc., but right now, she's the voice and felt force of the Jan. 6 committee, as much as any member could be (not directly comparable to brave, quiet, take-it-or-leave it Cassidy Hutchinson, who seems to have Trumpers floored, despite their going through the motions of pushback, athough again, no doubt there are all manner of threats).

dow, Saturday, 2 July 2022 21:37 (three years ago)

No one in politics can hate like a Cheney, and no one in politics can hate without losing focus like a Cheney.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 2 July 2022 21:41 (three years ago)

More so than Trump?! We'll see.

dow, Saturday, 2 July 2022 22:07 (three years ago)

Although he does sometimes lose focus in his longer speeches, and on some of his cronies.

dow, Saturday, 2 July 2022 22:10 (three years ago)

Dick Cheney is more of a menace than Trump, which is saying a lot. Expanded executive powers to alarming levels, helped curb civil liberties, ruthless warmonger. he helped lay the welcome mat for Trump basically.

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Saturday, 2 July 2022 22:27 (three years ago)

Yeah--Trump is not interested in military adventures, so far. He doesn't trust the military, at home or abroad.

dow, Saturday, 2 July 2022 22:33 (three years ago)

Yeah--Trump is not interested in military adventures, so far. He doesn't trust the military, at home or abroad.

He loves displays of military might, and worships "da troops." But he's not interested in war per se because there's no way for his companies to profit from it. He's not in defense contracting, he's in real estate. So unless he can get a couple of billion to turn one of his golf courses into an air force base...

but also fuck you (unperson), Saturday, 2 July 2022 22:40 (three years ago)

Also all those generals he surrounded himself with bailed, and he even ditched Flynn for a while.

dow, Saturday, 2 July 2022 22:52 (three years ago)

Trump v. Papa Cheney on the "greater evil" scale is complex but also they're both Extremely Evil so the differences are sort of academic. Liz Cheney is not someone I would ever vote for for anything but she's massively overperforming expectations for Republican members of Congress in 2022, so I'm not going to carp about her right now.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, 3 July 2022 00:16 (three years ago)

I’d rather be shot in the face by dick chaney because at least when he does it it’s over in two seconds. when his daughter does it it goes on for months

— kilgore trout, death to putiner (@KT_So_It_Goes) June 28, 2022

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 3 July 2022 00:21 (three years ago)

I’d rather be bitten by Lon Chaney

F'kin Magnetometers, how do they work? (President Keyes), Sunday, 3 July 2022 02:35 (three years ago)

I saw Liz Cheney walkin with the queen

Nutellanor Roosevelt (Ye Mad Puffin), Sunday, 3 July 2022 11:20 (three years ago)

https://www.newstatesman.com/ideas/2022/06/america-new-civil-war-crisis-industrial-complex

great piece by nikhil pal singh - should be the last word on "impending civil war" but won't be obviously.

the cat needs to start paying for its own cbd (map), Sunday, 3 July 2022 16:18 (three years ago)

fwiw I was recently talking to my sister, who knows (but does not like) Liz Cheney, and is pretty sure she's playing a longer game. Wyoming is not the world, after all.


I simply will not support Liz Cheney as the Democratic nominee in 2028 until she’s ready to have a frank discussion about the successful coup attempt that occurred in 2000.

no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Sunday, 3 July 2022 16:29 (three years ago)

Good encapsulation of the past 50 years by this dude:

1/ Dear Republicans: We Tried Your Way and It Does Not Work (a thread):

— Thom Hartmann (@Thom_Hartmann) July 3, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 July 2022 16:43 (three years ago)

will otm. The first election I voted in and of course my state fucked it up

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 July 2022 17:00 (three years ago)

(I voted Nader. Ugh.)

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Sunday, 3 July 2022 17:01 (three years ago)

Yeah, 2000 was when it clicked for the GOP that bullying and arrogant postering was enough to get the Dems to fold. Conveniently more or less right between the Contract with America and the Tea Party.

Josh in Chicago, Sunday, 3 July 2022 17:09 (three years ago)

i may have said this before and it’s incredibly embarrassing and indefensible, but I didn’t even vote in 2000. It was TN so it didn’t really matter (wild thing to say about a nominee’s home state feels like a v modern development. Clintons really changed the game). 2002 midterms was when I was like holy fuck we gotta do something! 20 full years later I’m like holy fuck we gotta do something!

no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Sunday, 3 July 2022 17:12 (three years ago)

home state, it feels like*

no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Sunday, 3 July 2022 17:13 (three years ago)

(Obv Bill won AR both times but it feels like that was the last time someone like him could win in a place like that, local boy be damned)

no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Sunday, 3 July 2022 17:16 (three years ago)

Most of this is paywalled, but starts:

Key Points
Former Trump aide Cassidy Hutchinson testified Trump tried to steer the limo to the Capitol Jan. 6.

Secret Service official Tony Ornato disputed her claim that Trump tried to grab the steering wheel.

Former Trump aides Olivia Troye and Alyssa Farah Griffin say Ornato has a history of lying for Trump.

On the record, yeah.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2022/07/03/two-former-white-house-aides-say-top-secret-service-official-may-lying-protect-trump/7796127001/?gnt-cfr=1

dow, Sunday, 3 July 2022 17:57 (three years ago)

Voted for Nader, would do it again in a heartbeat.

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 3 July 2022 18:02 (three years ago)

South Dakota Gov. Kristi Noem avoided answering whether or not she would change the state's law to allow a 10-year-old rape victim to get an abortion.

"The Indianapolis Star" is reporting that a 10-year-old girl in Ohio who was six weeks and three days pregnant now has to travel across state lines to Indiana to receive an abortion," CNN's Dana Bash asked Noem on Sunday. "So I just -- because this is a trigger law that was passed before you became governor, I wanted you to be clear. Will the state of South Dakota going forward force a 10-year-old in that very same situation to have a baby?"

South Dakota bans abortions except in cases where the life of the mother is at risk. The trigger law went into effect after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade.


https://www.businessinsider.com/gov-noem-wont-answer-change-laws-10-year-old-abortion-2022-7

dow, Sunday, 3 July 2022 18:07 (three years ago)

Former Trump aide Cassidy Hutchinson testified Trump tried to steer the limo to the Capitol Jan. 6.

This badly distorts what Hutchinson really testified.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 3 July 2022 18:51 (three years ago)

WATCH: Health and Human Services Sec. Xavier Becerra says there’s not a lot the Biden administration can do for abortion rights. @SecBecerra: “Unless we’re all going to say the word of the Supreme Court will no longer have value, we have to heed the word of the Supreme Court.” pic.twitter.com/yfbp6j7JIO

— Meet the Press (@MeetThePress) July 3, 2022

Yeah, imagine if we did that

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 3 July 2022 20:21 (three years ago)

Biden screwed Beshear by agreeing to a deal with McConnell to nominate an antiabortion federal judge in exchange for two temporary prosecutors.

So Beshear seems to have leaked that Biden originally scheduled the nomination for the day Roe was overturned. https://t.co/kAfIcLVAnG

— Sawyer Hackett (@SawyerHackett) July 3, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Sunday, 3 July 2022 23:25 (three years ago)

Unless we’re all going to say the word of the Supreme Court will no longer have value

absolutely fine with this

made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Monday, 4 July 2022 12:20 (three years ago)

Rising housing costs, combined with persistent inflation for basic necessities, have left more Americans newly homeless and millions more fearing they’ll soon lose their homes. (with @rachsieg) https://t.co/WFFw5P9xdK

— Abha Bhattarai (@abhabhattarai) July 3, 2022

papal hotwife (milo z), Monday, 4 July 2022 17:41 (three years ago)

Once there were Tent Cities, now there are SUV Suburbs.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 4 July 2022 18:40 (three years ago)

Soon turned out
To be a pain in the ass

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 4 July 2022 19:03 (three years ago)

At least Blackrock and a bunch of other companies are ready to buy their homes at auction and turn them into rental housing for the new permanent underclass.

made entirely of styrofoam (GOTT PUNCH II HAWKWINDZ), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 12:46 (three years ago)

Threats of violence over politics has increased heavily in the last few years. But the darkness has reached new lows. My new interns made this compilation of recent calls they’ve received while serving in my DC office.

WARNING: this video contains foul & graphic language. pic.twitter.com/yQJvvAHBVV

— Adam Kinzinger (@RepKinzinger) July 5, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 15:40 (three years ago)

can’t help but wonder how many of those calls are from cops

no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 16:41 (three years ago)

Idk but that one guy is really into cocksucking.

Ima Gardener (in orbit), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 16:54 (three years ago)

Giuliani, Graham testimony sought in Trump election probe

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/giuliani-graham-testimony-sought-in-trump-election-probe/ar-AAZe86E?ocid=entnewsntp&cvid=71b777a68ee740f791a7befc3e887789

Not that I think this will come to much. The state legislators who have been subpoenaed are fighting the process tooth and nail.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:05 (three years ago)

I'm glad they are starting to look into this Rudy character.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 19:09 (three years ago)

The fuck?

Incredible stuff. pic.twitter.com/LbTp0iIUrN

— Isaac Chotiner (@IChotiner) July 5, 2022

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 5 July 2022 20:31 (three years ago)

McLaughlin writes for the National Review, which is the Chip Diller of U.S. conservatism. He says egregious shit, couched in reasonable-sounding words, all the time.

"This is not a defense of Trump" LOL Yeah, fuck you.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 20:34 (three years ago)

I miss the NRO threads.

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 5 July 2022 20:40 (three years ago)


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