The Fall of Roe v Wade: US Politics, June 2022

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Actually ideal result is not that overturning Roe vs Wade is undone but that something a lot more coherent is put in isn't it? I have heard people saying that it doesn't really go far enough in any way. Would be good if those working on any further legislation would be end users so not largely men. & if church and state could be like separated or something.
Do wonder what an actual Jesus, a swarthy radical jewish guy would think, instead of his ersatz replacement of recent centuries convenient blue eyed white geezer who nicked his name. & handily follows puritanical church creed and stuff.

Stevolende, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 09:08 (three years ago)

ILX poster Conrad and I saw this Shakespearean play about DJT

https://www.oldvictheatre.com/stage/event/the-47th

which is close to things discussed above.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 09:59 (three years ago)

oh and Glastonbury is my scene is it

imago, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 10:25 (three years ago)

what if there was someone materially responsible for getting Thomas into his position, by gaslighting, excluding, and ostracising his victim, and refusing to allow corroborating witnesses to tesitify


FYI i noticed this, good question to which we all know the answer

broccoli rabe thomas (the table is the table), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 11:05 (three years ago)

poster Imago: do you, also, like Shakespearean theatre?

the pinefox, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 11:25 (three years ago)

Lol

https://www.thedailybeast.com/mesa-county-clerk-tina-peter-loses-race-for-colorado-secretary-of-state

Doop Snogg (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 11:58 (three years ago)

Lol “we’re not done fighting” at 15% behind

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 13:26 (three years ago)

I mean, based on the level of fraud, that means she's actually up by about 118 points.

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 13:51 (three years ago)

from a 2018 article in the new yorker about the Fair Housing Act:

Late in President Barack Obama’s second term, in 2015, hud adopted meaningful regulations that put teeth in the Fair Housing Act’s mandate to foster integration. The new rules focussed on enhancing access to good schools, jobs, transportation, recreation, and social services. The regulations had strict time lines, which held both the local jurisdictions and hud accountable. Fair-housing advocates rejoiced. Then came the election of Donald Trump. In January of this year, hud Secretary Ben Carson announced that the department would postpone the Obama-era requirements until at least 2020.

anyone know the status of these regulations?

Heez, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 17:00 (three years ago)

https://www.hud.gov/AFFH should have links to the relevant rules & regulations, to the extent that they have been written -- AFFH was still very much an idea, not even really a pilot program yet, when Obama left office.

Attached by piercing jewelry (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 17:11 (three years ago)

Restored last year I think

https://www.hud.gov/press/press_releases_media_advisories/HUD_No_21_098

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 17:13 (three years ago)

thanks yall

Heez, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 17:22 (three years ago)

my nomination for July thread title:

“Bad handwriting, that of a Whacko?”

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 17:23 (three years ago)

xp
I misspoke -- "affirmatively furthering fair housing" (AFFH) is a provision in the text of the Fair Housing Act that has been in place for a long time, but was always basically handwaved away at the level of enforcement. What changed with the Obama-era regulations was that municipalities were being encouraged to submit an Analysis of Fair Housing (AFH) instead of an Analysis of Impediments (AI), with the understanding that they could be required to develop action plans in the future in order to continue receiving HUD grants, if just "removing impediments" hasn't done enough to achieve meaningful housing integration. But it never actually got to that point (afaik) before Trump took office. I know Philly was one of the metros that was on HUD's radar c.2015-16 for falling short of the AFFH mandate, but I'm quite sure nothing ever came out it.

Attached by piercing jewelry (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 17:24 (three years ago)

For more on the AFH put together by Philadelphia in 2016 that was read by nobody ever: https://philly.curbed.com/2016/10/28/13440026/philadelphia-assessment-of-fair-housing-report-explainer

Attached by piercing jewelry (bernard snowy), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 17:27 (three years ago)

xxxxxpost Aimless add re Trump wanting to further inflame the troops on 1/6:

: He may have hoped that with a bit of luck the whole election could be thrown into the House of Representatives

Mo "IT"S TIME FOR KICKIN ASS AND TAKIN NAMES" on 1/6 Brooks and other Reps requested pardons in advance---Mo also made smirking reference to things getting settled in the House when a reporter mentioned the failure of Trump's 69 lawsuits and call to the Supreme Court re fraud. Maybe thinking of the Hayes vs. Tilden "Compromise," which was pretty much the Ted Cruz proposal.

dow, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 17:44 (three years ago)

gotta say it is frustrating to see the vast majority of media attention being given to Trump reaching for the steering wheel and throwing dinner plates when it was also revealed that he actually made an attempt to get heavily armed people into Capitol grounds, presumably to murder the people they straight up said they wanted to kill. if they wanted to write about that shit they should just go work for Jimmy Fallon

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 19:18 (three years ago)

^^^^

every. fucking. time. the media on all sides latches on to the stupidest fucking detail that can be easily dismissed and allows too many people to just shrug off the whole thing.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 19:21 (three years ago)

We need a meme of the Founding Fathers crying over ketchup oozing down a wall

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 19:22 (three years ago)

the steering wheel is of importance because it shows how important being there in person was to him (and casts his sulking afternoon in the white house in a different light).

the ketchup thing (and the stupid headlines) are dumb because it's already well known that he does shit like that

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 19:24 (three years ago)

Not to minimize the very serious stuff that came out of yesterday’s hearing, but the steering wheel thing also links back to the prior Trump steering wheel thing (the fire truck, right?), which made him seem to some like a lovable idiot, an overgrown child pretending to drive a parked vehicle - in marked contrast to what we learned about Tuesday.

But yeah the larger point stands

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 19:27 (three years ago)

I think it’s also getting a lot of attention because it’s a profound and immediate expression of utter and total desperation. It’s small and isolated but it underscores how addled and far gone he is.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 19:29 (three years ago)

And of course Trump's surrogates are already pushing back on that story in the media. It's the weakest point of her testimony, being nothing but pure hearsay (and it was presented as such, she didn't claim to have personal knowledge of the incident).

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 19:29 (three years ago)

For his supporters though, being fought off by secret service while he was trying to join them like he said he would is essentially a heroic act.

BrianB, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 19:30 (three years ago)

I'm not arguing that these aren't important details to have on the record, I'm expressing disappoint in the outlets that seem to be fixated on those two details in isolation.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 19:31 (three years ago)

I’ll stop talking about this, one last steering wheel point though -

It speaks to the laziness of media and the attention span of media consumers, because it’s so sensationalist and easy. It’s easy!

If someone didn’t bother with this hearing at all, and asked you what happened, and you just wanted to be done with it in 30 seconds, the most simple, direct thing to say is “Trump found out he wasn’t being driven to the protest, freaked out, and attacked his driver, shit was crazy AF.”

Everything else is more significant but everything else demands more context and explanation, maybe even “look, you have to just watch this yourself or search professor Richardson’s summary.”

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 19:34 (three years ago)

But also, what happens if he once again lunges for the wheel of the country in a metaphorical sense...

Eggs Benedick (Eric H.), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 19:34 (three years ago)

Jackass take the wheel

rare lipstick or mohawks that somehow make them more valuable (President Keyes), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 19:35 (three years ago)

exactly, they're trying to Zapruder the whole thing and use that to argue all the testimony is invalid, which I think kinda works for them because that's the part that's getting covered extensively in the media right now. its got shades of the whole piss tape thing, "look at the desperate lies the left is trying to push", etc.

not saying it's unimportant or necessarily false (no doubt something like this actually did happen), but

the President of the United States literally tried to get metal detectors removed so armed supporters could ambush the Capitol and kill people, including the Vice President! a former general took the fifth when asked if he supported a peaceful transition of power! numerous members of Congress directly asked for pardons, knowing they were committing crimes against the country they took an oath to serve!! I grew up learning that Watergate was the biggest political scandal in history and this seems 5,000 times worse!!!

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 19:37 (three years ago)

The steering wheel anecdote resonates because it's kind of comical and so specific, but I'm not sure it's a superficial or trivial detail. An image like that resonates metaphorically far beyond its literal reality. Other testimony was more damning in terms of the broader circumstances of Jan. 6, but the steering wheel and plate-throwing are such visceral illustrations of both who he is and the MAGA movement at large. I don't think they're insubstantial things.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:17 (three years ago)

some good news from GA (https://poll.qu.edu/poll-release?releaseid=3851)

warnick is up 10 points on herschel walke

it's the 4th quarter and your team's down, it's 4th and long, and the QB looks at you and says "sir, I'm too tired, you're gonna have to 'carry the ball the rest of the way', it's been the honor of my lifetime to play football with you and get to know you on a personal level as well. the play clock is running low so i have to cut this short, but...maybe you should run for senator some day". i believe running back herschel walker can meet up with coach tuberville and throw a hail mary for american patriots and american football fans across the world

Bruce Stingbean (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:18 (three years ago)

sorry no Google translator

Malevolent Arugula (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:25 (three years ago)

I would be surprised if Stacey Abrams won. Warnock, not so much. He is very well regarded here in Georgia, especially among African-Americans, who will be a crucial demographic in a statewide race like this. I don't think the Republican strategy of putting up their own black dude will carry the day, even if that black dude is Herschel Walker.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:29 (three years ago)

Herschel Walker may well be the line in the sand of too brain damaged for even 2022 Republicans.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:35 (three years ago)

What an awful candidate. The GOP should be embarrassed, but they’re way beyond embarrassment at this point.

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:35 (three years ago)

I don't think the Republican strategy of putting up their own black dude will carry the day, even if that black dude is Herschel Walker.

Should have gone with Killer Mike. (Yeah, yeah, he was a Bernie guy — you can't fool me, that dude is a Tulsi waiting for the right offer.)

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:36 (three years ago)

Brain wormed delusions of grandeur, fine, he's one of us.

CTE-derived delusions of grandeur...

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:36 (three years ago)

Most of my Republican friends here are quite upset that he is in the race. They've been predicting an implosion all along.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:37 (three years ago)

gonna burn one of those wacky celeb prayer candle feat the visage Paul “Bear” Bryant for this lead to hold

no one wants to twerk anymore (will), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:37 (three years ago)

Should have gone with Killer Mike.

Georgia Republicans are not gonna vote for a rapper.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:38 (three years ago)

hoping the Fetterman/Oz race goes the same way, Fetterman is a legitimately good candidate and Oz is some idiot celebrity

he's not literally brain damaged like Herschel is but he does have that same Trumpy thing going on where his concern is his celebrity and not necessarily any political issues and we all know how much damage those guys can do

frogbs, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:49 (three years ago)

I think with both Oz and Walker, Trump et al maybe underestimate the racism of their own base (even as they feed it, of course).

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 20:53 (three years ago)

warnick is up 10 points on herschel walker

biden's approval in the same poll is 33!

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:07 (three years ago)

I'm rooting for Fetterman, we need more Carhartt dems

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:09 (three years ago)

Oz is really getting hurt by not actually being from PA.

but also fuck you (unperson), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:17 (three years ago)

Probably can't name two guys from the Steel Curtain D

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:20 (three years ago)

How about Duluth Trading Company Dems?

https://www.duluthtrading.com/mens-duluthflex-fire-hose-11-cargo-shorts-36333.html?dwvar_36333_color=BRN&cgid=mens-pants

Antifa Sandwich Artist (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:23 (three years ago)

Fetterman isn't perfect obviously, but he does seem like an ideal PA candidate to me. I went to Penn State and have spent a lot of time in Pennsylvania, its blue-collar identity is a very real thing across the political/cultural spectrum. (With obvious exceptions in the Philly suburbs etc.)

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:37 (three years ago)

July 9th.

https://www.womensmarch.com/

Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 21:51 (three years ago)

The whole business of Dems supporting far-right candidates...sure hope this doesn't backfire.

Oof, the far-right GOP nominee Darren Bailey is crushing the field so far in the Illinois governor's race. Democrats spent millions to boost him, under the theory he'd be far weaker against Governor J.B. Pritzker in November.

— Taniel (@Taniel) June 29, 2022

deep luminous trombone (Eazy), Wednesday, 29 June 2022 22:25 (three years ago)


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