The Fall of Roe v Wade: US Politics, June 2022

I don't even own an insurrection

"grandstanding" is a bit much. why don't we just move on though?

Let's run it up the flagpole and see...

Politics' weirdest year.

"grandstanding" is a bit much. why don't we just move on though?

― rob, Tuesday, June 28, 2022 2:31 PM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

ok thread cop--was merely just pointing something out, that there are a couple of folks here being tools, but by all means, i'll keep walking officer, sorry i stepped off the sidewalk won't happen again

lol ok dude

I admit the defeatist attitude is obnoxious, like for years leftists have been trying to warn everyone that the right wing in this country are fascists who may attempt to overthrow our democracy through violence, and that the news needs to cover them as such, and now there is a lengthy, well-argued primetime hearing demonstrating how they tried to do just that, and the reaction is "Meh, won't matter?" I mean what do we really want here?

‘Why should we hear about insurrections and coups? It’s not relevant. So why should I waste my beautiful mind on something like that?’

You mistake the warnings of leftists about fascism with faith or concern with protecting Empire— it is about protecting people, and no matter what any of you say, the US federal government seems to be much more interested in immiserating or killing people than protecting them.

“our democracy “ lmfao

i'm allowed to pay attention to the hearings and be informed about it and also agree with those of you on this thread who think that nothing will change, nothing will happen. i think snarkily/sneering at folks who want to be informed is a bad look and makes those folks doing the sneering look and seem petty.

Part of the problem is surely timing. This is an unfortunate month to call attention to the failed version of "a small group of undemocratic extremists take over the govt and strip people of their rights" when you're struggling to demonstrate you can do anything about the wildly successful but legal version of the same thing.

That said, if the Ds hadn't done something in response to 1/6, it would be yet another sign of their uselessness.

but surely a white saviour on a white horse will turn up before it all goes sideways completely and the day will be saved.
Not holding my breath, but surely .

anyways... for those who do care, the witness at the "suprise" hearing today is Cassidy Hutchison.

would someone just fucking primary Biden in '24

CNN ran a brief and shallow story about how people are asking Manchin to run as a 3rd party candidate lol

Many people are asking it, you’re hearing it more and more

Best part was they framed it like "people are sick of white men in their 80s running for prez (Manchin is 74)"

Did these people used to be Veep candidates in the year 2000?

i'm not some fanboy but aoc should primary him. like who has national recognition and doesn't suck

she's not yet 35 iirc

she will be

Timing is tight, but she turns 35 in Oct. 2024.

ah ok thanks

i can't think of anyone else but matthew mcconaughey

joking

I've tried to imagine what AOC could do next that would be bigger/more effective but haven't landed on anything. A doomed primary run is kind of demoralizing to contemplate, but I suppose it could help boost her profile

Amazon CEO.

why not primary Chuck Shumer?

xxpost worked for Tulsi

I’d say run for senate my god the forces arrayed against her (and that’s just her own party and party’s biggest donors) will be off the charts

*but my god

I'd like to think AOC would start off with the Bernie base supporting her, but after years of attacks I don't know if she could even count on that.

don’t think it’s going to be “the base” that will be her main problem

I'd like to think AOC would start off with the Bernie base supporting her, but after years of attacks I don't know if she could even count on that.

Not a problem, per se. But most Presidential candidates at her level of experience would start out at like .05% in the polls. If she was seen as Bernie's successor she could very well debut in double digits. But even to semi-rational people a candidate who receives relentless negative coverage begins to seem tarnished.

we're doomed

i've come to really dislike Biden. in a way i didn't think was possible when i voted for him. the fucking gall of pulling troops out of afghanistan because you want to hit the anniversary of 9/11. fuck

pulling troops out of Afghanistan is literally the only good thing he’s done imo. anniversary thing is silly but hey whatever it takes to get these leaky brained idiots to do something good

yeah, of all the possible things to complain about, that seems like a odd one

i'm talking about the way it was done. they stranded women and families who have been murdered by the Taliban. he fucking rushed it so we could make it a lil celebratory thing bc our experience as americans is all that matters. my wife literally, to this day, gets plea's from women to help her get out. the last one mentioned that the taliban had sent pictures of her murdered family to her house. so yeah, not really an odd thing to get pissed about

get them out

I think there's a lot of good things the Biden administration has done, maybe nothing splashy and certainly not enough to meet the moment, but still...

https://apnews.com/article/climate-biden-and-environment-government-politics-13e5d01c3f43c899e39f337d478c1179

idk if the time is right for someone like AOC just yet, but no one else is stepping up to be the face of the Democrat party. I'm thinking someone like Elizabeth Warren could be successful, but hopefully it's someone several decades younger than she is

and sorry but it's a shame more ppl on this board aren't pissed about it

i've come to really dislike Biden. in a way i didn't think was possible when i voted for him. the fucking gall of pulling troops out of afghanistan because you want to hit the anniversary of 9/11. fuck

― Heez, Tuesday, June 28, 2022

You had me until the last sentence. A cheap politician's trick, but we're out.

Did you read anything I wrote after that?

Biden's been excellent with nominating judges, better than Obama and even Trump.

And his Title IX rules acknowledge and protect trans citizens.

I’m confused y’all are cool with how we left Afghanistan?

I’m emphasizing HOW here

I’m mostly not cool with how we ever went there to begin with. And embarrassed to say I bought into Obama’s “good war” narrative early on. what a shitshow, stem to stern

and by god we’ll do something just as stupid again